dam didnt look at the date on it..
my bad for the thread dig up....
I'm a fan of the NSX by the way
my bad for the thread dig up....
I'm a fan of the NSX by the way
Steve said:Thanks for the reply. I guess that is what I am getting at. I do not mind that a Neon pulled me. What is bothering me is the guy claiming his car is running 13.4 at 106 when I think mine car is faster than that.
I Grok NSX said:Okay, I'm walking in to work (will be here in Ontario California for a couple of weeks doing an audit) and I pass a bright yellow Neon four door with a big wing on the trunk. I glance at the tag and this is what it reads: VIPR JR
NetViper said:I personally think it is false advertising for a company to underate the HP. It should be illegal. People sue like crazy when HP is overrated, why should a company be able to underrate it. The SRT-4 has been underrated since day one. I don't think they made any improvements this year, they just stated the HP closer to the real number.. which is near 250HP. There have been MANY articles done in professional magazines stating the car is way underrated... why is this OK??
KulSecHskY said:That's why I bought a Prelude instead of a camero, and that is why my next car will be a NSX.
KulSecHskY said:Are absolutely serious? You're joking right?
Would you complain if you bought 24 pack of beer and somehow there was 25 beers? Come on man.
KulSecHskY said:Who in their right mind would sue for getting MORE than what you paid for? Only think I could think of is if someone couldn't 'handle' all that power... but that is a frivolous lawsuit if I ever saw one.
jlindy said:Correct me if I am wrong, but don't insurance companies base premiums on HP among other things. I would like to think that they would be interested in a company that underrates its HP numbers, keeping insurance premiums down to less than they would normally. It's obvious that I am not in the insurance business, but am I crazy here.
jlindy said:Correct me if I am wrong, but don't insurance companies base premiums on HP among other things. I would like to think that they would be interested in a company that underrates its HP numbers, keeping insurance premiums down to less than they would normally. It's obvious that I am not in the insurance business, but am I crazy here.
NetViper said:I have asked that question many times. I agree with you, but most people seem to just think I am stupid for even suggesting that.
KulSecHskY said:
Now where exactly in this thread did you suggest that?
NetViper said:Not in this thread, but in past threads. Maybe before your time..
spookyp said:I wonder is the HP "underrating" a result of horrible quality control? In other words, is Dodge saying "well, we're sure this thing will make a MINIMUM of xxx HP, but who the hell knows what the exact number will be?"
If so, I wouldnt brag about it either
The question is... Do all SRT4s make x HP more than claimed? Or is it that HP numbers are all over the map, but always more than the stated minimum? If it's the latter, that's kind of sad considering these things are made by robots on an assemblyline by the 10's of thousands...
satan_srv said:it was underrated on purpose.
Honda is doing the same thing with the 04 S2000 so I wouldn't agree with your quality suggestion.
satan_srv said:it was underrated on purpose.
Honda is doing the same thing with the 04 S2000 so I wouldn't agree with your quality suggestion.
spookyp said:So I guess the question is "why do that"?
It's idiotic isnt it? 99% of people dont go around dynoing $20k cars or moding them, so they'll NEVER know they got this "freebie". Furthermore, the US has no gentlemens agreement like Japan, so its not like Dodge isnt allowed to produce a high HP car.
Is Dodge just that stupid that they know they are producing cars that make a guaranteed percentage higher than what they claim but they refuse to raise the claim? I've heard of submitting "ringer" cars to mags for testing, but producing an entire line of "ringer" cars and not capitalizing on it???
Knowing that American buyers buy HP more than anything and dont typically care about balance, quality, reliability, etc. (this IS generally true in the US), how would they POSSIBLY be served by *underrating* HP?
If its true that its intentional, its the dumbest thing I've ever heard and it doesnt seem to be true of any of the high end cars (the Viper tends to dyno as what you'd expect). Very odd that this "deliberate" underrating seems to only effect the super budget cars like the Neon and Mustang.