Crank Tool for T-Belt change

xory72

xory72

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Hey there everyone!

I am fairly new to Prime as I have been working on a 96 T I bought for the last few months. Getting real close to getting back on the road, but I have no clue if T-Belt and /or Water pump has ever been done, so I am not taking the chance and just doing it.

I am just gettig all the parts together to do the timing belt change. I am going to need the Crank Pully tool. I was looking at buying it ... but it is not chaep and I would not be using it again for a long time.

I was wondering if anyone had one that I could "rent or borrow" for a weekend. (I am hoping to do this the weekend of March 15) I will pay the shipping both ways. I am located in Eastern, NC (New Bern). If not I guess I'll bite the bullet and buy one.

Please let me know or PM me so we can make arrangments. Thanks guys!

Darrin

P.S. Should I adjust the valves at the same time? If so would you have the valve tools as well?
 
I would consider lending you mine, but I'll need it for the next few days. Send me a PM and we can discuss.

As far as the timing belt - if you are going to jump in on this one, plan to adjust the valves, change the spark plugs, replace the water pump, change the oil and change the coolant.

Based on my one-time experience that I'm 2/3 of the way through with - I'd also suggest changing all 4 cam plugs. Might as well get the cam seals, also, since you are in there.

I'd also replace the valve cover gasket and a few other gaskets. Dali has a 90k service package with some of this stuff already combined.
 
FYI, universal tools are available. They are same as the H series. You can find them online for around $30-40. They don't work as well as the factory style tool but will get you through doing the job once.

regards,
-- Chris

xory72 said:
Hey there everyone!

I am fairly new to Prime as I have been working on a 96 T I bought for the last few months. Getting real close to getting back on the road, but I have no clue if T-Belt and /or Water pump has ever been done, so I am not taking the chance and just doing it.

I am just gettig all the parts together to do the timing belt change. I am going to need the Crank Pully tool. I was looking at buying it ... but it is not chaep and I would not be using it again for a long time.

I was wondering if anyone had one that I could "rent or borrow" for a weekend. (I am hoping to do this the weekend of March 15) I will pay the shipping both ways. I am located in Eastern, NC (New Bern). If not I guess I'll bite the bullet and buy one.

Please let me know or PM me so we can make arrangments. Thanks guys!

Darrin

P.S. Should I adjust the valves at the same time? If so would you have the valve tools as well?
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l8apex32 said:
I would consider lending you mine, but I'll need it for the next few days. Send me a PM and we can discuss.

As far as the timing belt - if you are going to jump in on this one, plan to adjust the valves, change the spark plugs, replace the water pump, change the oil and change the coolant.

Based on my one-time experience that I'm 2/3 of the way through with - I'd also suggest changing all 4 cam plugs. Might as well get the cam seals, also, since you are in there.

I'd also replace the valve cover gasket and a few other gaskets. Dali has a 90k service package with some of this stuff already combined.
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Thanks I8apex32! I iwll PM you and see what we can work out. I reall appreciate it. I have already go all the gaskets, seals, water pump, plugs etc. Will PM you.
 
Chris@SoS said:
FYI, universal tools are available. They are same as the H series. You can find them online for around $30-40. They don't work as well as the factory style tool but will get you through doing the job once.

regards,
-- Chris
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Hey Chris!

Thanks for the the information on some less expensive tools. Other Prime members may be able to use that imforamtion as well. I have searched the net ... but have not been able to locate any (inexpensive tools). Do you have a URL that you can post?

Sounds like I8apex32 may be able to arrange loaning his tools to me after he is done. Prime members are awesome! If not ... I may hit you up to help find the tools.

Regards,
Darrin
 
get a chain wrench.

Its fast, easy and works first time everytime.:smile:

Happy motoring

Rob
 
OLDMNSX said:
Try these web addresses on Amazon.com.

http://www.amazon.com/Alltrade-6487...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1205447449&sr=1-1

I got one of these, it works just fine. Here is a valve adjustment tool also.

http://www.amazon.com/Alltrade-6488...ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1205447449&sr=1-4

If this doesn't work just go to Amazon.com, Power and Hand tools, and search "HONDA"

Brad
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Brad,

Thanks for the links! Looks like I8apex32 is going to let me use his Factory tool, but I will go head and get the valve tools since you feel they will work fine. I and and I am sure other PRIME members appreciates the links and imformation.

Darrin
 
Hey all,

Is the Crank tool for a 96 a 45mm or a 50mm?

Thanks,

Darrin
 
45mm for Manual Trans

Not 100% sure if the Automatic pulley is also a 45mm.

HTH,
LarryB
 
Larry Bastanza said:
45mm for Manual Trans

Not 100% sure if the Automatic pulley is also a 45mm.

HTH,
LarryB
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Thanks for clearing that up Larry! I've seen and heard your name all over prime as the TB / water pump Guru! If I have questions along the way (hopefully I do not) I will contact you. Just waiting for a few gaskets to arrive.

Darrin
 
I think the crank tool 45mm was $20 at amazon and the valve tools $12. If you get free shipping on amazon, you are not that far off of paying shipping two ways to borrow.
 
OLDMNSX said:
NOW THAT'S FUNNY!!!!!!!!! That's like using a fork lift to change a tire or a 20 lb sledge hammer to remove a rock chip!!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:
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wow, no joke. :biggrin:

a chain wrench is not over kill for that crank bolt.....:eek:

it is definitely the best and quickest way for me. not to mention I bought the wrong sized crank pulley tool :biggrin: :biggrin:

tired other stuff but the chain wrench is just so easy to do. it fits any sized crank and gets into tight places. best investment ever.... well not quite.

drop the engine down a bit.

30 seconds to sling the CW and arrange in position.

big ass breaker bar with even bigger extension bar..... + me jumping on the end gets it crank bolt lose the first try every time. :biggrin:

fun fun fun! :wink:

before the chain wrench I had to pull out the dictionary to find curse words to throw at the crank pulley bolt.
 
I found that I really needed 3/4" extensions, etc for the crank bolt, especially to break it loose. I think it was something like 20" of extension needed.

I have the factory 45mm crank pulley tool, as well as the factory valve adjust tools. Let me know if things change and you want to borrow them.

My 3/4" torque wrench is so heavy that shipping it probably cost more than buying a new one from Harbor Freight. (relatively cheap, reasonable accuracy. It won't last forever, but I only need it to change the belt every 10 years.)

Frank
'96NSX-t, 5spd, red/tan
 
ftuhy said:
I found that I really needed 3/4" extensions, etc for the crank bolt, especially to break it loose. I think it was something like 20" of extension needed.

I have the factory 45mm crank pulley tool, as well as the factory valve adjust tools. Let me know if things change and you want to borrow them.

My 3/4" torque wrench is so heavy that shipping it probably cost more than buying a new one from Harbor Freight. (relatively cheap, reasonable accuracy. It won't last forever, but I only need it to change the belt every 10 years.)

Frank
'96NSX-t, 5spd, red/tan
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Frank,

Great! Thanks so much. I have all the breaker bars etc ... just the Honda tools is what I need. I8apex32 asked me to contact him Monday the 17th to see of he was done with the tools ... if he is not done, I will get in touch with you. Once again I appreciate the offer and may in touch with you.

Darrin
 
Got a pm, I thought some of you might also have been thinking the same thing so im posting it to clear things up.
nsxprimemember said:
Hi Rob,

I'm curious--

When you said chain wrench, did you mean the same kind of chain wrench that you can grab a round pipe with?

Does it mar the nut or round the nut's corners or anything?

(thanks for your contributions to Prime, I appreciate the help you give to us all!)
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The pipe wrench is not used on the actual crank pulley bolt but rather on the crank pulley itself.

The reason is because once you apply above 50-60lbs of torque on the bolt, the engine actually starts turning.

The point of the chain wrench is the stop the crank from moving so you can apply the Herculean amount of tq required to break that baby loose!:smile:

The chain wrench if used correctly will not make any marks on the crank pulley since the force is distributed evenly over many contact points on to the crank pulley.

When I get to the next TB, I'll get a few pictures so the community can all be on the same page and there are no confusions.

The Honda tool works also very nicely. I use the chain wrench because I work on all different kind of cars so instead of buying multiple tools, I have this one that works for absolutely everything. Also its quick and easy, takes about 30 seconds to setup and usually works on the first try.

Chain around to secure the crank pulley and the breaker bar to brake loose the nut!

Happy DIY!

Rob:smile:
 
Frank,

Thanks for loaning me your Pulley wrench. I wills end them back tomorrow 4/1/2008 (not April fools either)

I did the entire TB and water pump change in a day and a half. I had ordered all the parts and had everything I needed so there was no need to stop, or go to the store etc.
I got the car back on the ground Saturday afternoon and took it for a ride. All is good.

I actually really enjoyed doing this and it went much faster then I thought. Thanks Larry and Gary for your DYI notes. Between them and the manual ... it was clearly outlined making the job so much easier.

Once again thanks to all and thanks to Prime members. It;s a great community!

Darrin
 
We should start a club for all of us who have done the TB/WP DIY. We can post pictures of ourselves with the Timing Belt draped around our neck. :smile:
 
NSXBill2 said:
We should start a club for all of us who have done the TB/WP DIY. We can post pictures of ourselves with the Timing Belt draped around our neck. :smile:
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lol i totally agree. :biggrin:

i use to throw them away and just recently i started keeping them as a momento. :smile:
 
NSXBill2 said:
I have mine proudly displayed on the wall of my workshop, like a trophy!:biggrin:
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i should take pictures with the TB and the customer:biggrin:

that would be pretty cool.

btw i got pictures of the chain wrench setup on the tb that was done on Nick's car over the weekend.

i'll post it tonight. lol had a video too but it was just stupid!
 
Please do post the pictures. I's be interested in seeing what you have been talking about as far as the "chain wrench" set up.

Darrin
 

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