Cops don't like Taitec exhausts in Orlando.

[DocL]

My gf and I decided to go for diner last night in Orlando, which by the way is 200 miles from us, and we got pulled over by the Sheriff for having an aftermarket exhaust. He couldn't tell me what decibel my exhaust was, but he did say that it was louder than stock. Now it was 11:30pm, we were tired and on our way to the hotel, and I was shifting at 3000rpms observing the speed limit. His excuse for pulling me over was that, and this is exactly how he said it, that "it's illegal to put on any exhaust that doesn't come on the car from the factory." Now that makes no sense to me for this reason. If that's true, then how is it legal that Midas has been to able to replace millions of exhausts over the years? Aren't those exhausts and muffler's aftermarket? I didn't question his statement, but I was fascinated. Oh yeah, he didn't even know the legal decibel limit when I asked him for own personal information. I didn't get a ticket, but I was warned that all the officers look out especially for loud cars in Orlando. I guess the next time I go up for a night I'll have to put the straight pipes in.

On another note, my gf loves the sound of the Taitec and enjoyed our little break in drive.

 

[Brian2by2]

I've been to orlando many many times with my Flowmaster exhaust and I've never once been messed with! i've been in quiet towns as well such as Williston (outside of gainseville) and Port St Lucie, Stuart, Osceola (kissimmee) and a ton of other cities...

Thats absolutely ridiculous...especially if you were shifting at 3,000rpms!!! He just wanted to see the car up close!

 

[4AU4LIFE]

Glad I kept mine OEM as I frequent Orlando often.

 

[NSXDreamer2]

You know even I'm from Seattle area, I've got pulled over 3 times in my area with my accord. (5 Zigen cat back.) The first time I got a ticket and the Court ruled me Committed despite I have the 5 zigen 50 states legal sticker submit to the Judge. He said, "unfortunately, I see you are the victim of false advertisement, you have the option to submit your ticket to this manufacturer and have them pay for your ticket..."

then after a month, WA adopted the 95 db law over the exhaust. (It's been almost 3 years since law adopted.)
However, I've been attacked by the police for 2 more times by saying that same phase, "it's illegal to put on any exhaust that is louder than the one from the factory. Last time I was pulled over by the on-ramp and I wasn't doing anything wrong at the time. I argued with the officer and told him better to check his book again since WA had already adopted the 95db law for more than a year... He basically told me he never heard of it, but he'll let me go this time if I put my resonator in. If he sees me next time, he would definately give me a ticket. Well, sure enough, I had been driving around for another year till now (still no resonator and same muffler.) and never got pulled over.

I guessed what it is, is that those officer are the one that having straight A in the "test", (they do go thru test before they come out and harrass drivers, right??) but then they never updated themselves after that. or any scenrio would be they are as dumb as @#@* and ask their officer, "So how can we arrest people with those coffee can exhaust??" " just tell them this, (insert that familiar stupid phase about aftermarket exhaust not legal)"
This is all in my imagination but could anyone tell me if that's not the case, how come the Seattle police and the Orlando Sherriff would say the same regardless what the actual law is??

I have nothing to against the police but I just hate those who harrass people for nothing. Those losers should have better things to do than that.

 

[LegendTypeII]

I have a Magnaflow Hi-Flow Cat, Resonator and Muffler on my 94' Legend Coupe.
I am originally from Ft. Lauderdale and now Im in Orlando for school @ UCF.
But right before school started I was back in Ft. Lauderdale @ TOWER SHOPS (car show) and when I left I slowly got on it and I slowed down around 55mph, the speed limit was 45, so I try to merge and get over into the turn lane when a cop pulls me over.
So he gives me the same speech, ANYTHING besides factory is illegal, i tried to tlel him that I have a CAT and a resonator to keep it under the db level put he wasnt even listening to what I said. He was a prick and Im taking it to court!

Damn cops, why dont they stop drug deals and ricers with big wings.

 

[Aiken Drum]

"...you have the option to submit your ticket to this manufacturer and have them pay for your ticket..."

So did you? I'm curious how that would have worked out.

 

[NSXDreamer2]

So did you? I'm curious how that would have worked out.

Of course not, I don't think the $85.00 ticket would justify anything for me to submit that whole thing to the 5 Zigen dist.
The judge was being an a** to ignore whatever that's legit. The Sticker stated the Statue in CA state, and he used it for the reason to turn it down. In fact, like I mentioned before that first ticket was before WA state adopted the 95 db law... so for awhile, there's really absoulutely "no aftermarket exhaust system which exceeded the OEM's noise is allowed." I swallowed it but just bitching it and used that for my "Anti-government" excuses.

 

[NSXROX]

Did you ever consider that maybe the cop pulled you over to check out the car and just used the noise as an excuse? It happens all the time. Especially since he never even wrote you a ticket. ...One of the liabilities of owning an NSX.

 

[DocL]

Did you ever consider that maybe the cop pulled you over to check out the car and just used the noise as an excuse? It happens all the time. Especially since he never even wrote you a ticket. ...One of the liabilities of owning an NSX.

I never even considered it because to me that is an abuse of power. He was a very young officer and frankly I don't like to be harrassed when I'm abiding by the law; even if I do own an NSX.

 

[ak]

Did he give you a ticket? It's that time of the month for cops... end of the month quota time.

 

[DocL]

Did he give you a ticket? It's that time of the month for cops... end of the month quota time.

No ticket because he said he didn't have a decibel device and he didn't know what the legal limit when I asked him. He just wanted to make sure that I knew it was "illegal" to put on any aftermarket exhaust. I guess I'll start a class action lawsuit against Midas for installing all those aftermarket exhaust systems.

Anyone else want to join in?

 

[NSXDreamer2]

I never even considered it because to me that is an abuse of power. He was a very young officer and frankly I don't like to be harrassed when I'm abiding by the law; even if I do own an NSX.

yeap, this also happened to me that all the time I got pulled over for the exhaust was the young one, old fart / or lady cops don't care much about the exhaust. ahhahaha...

so is it actually Jealousy?? then?

 

[Juice]

To me this is no laughing matter. I have great respect for what a cop stands for, but little appreciation for what they actually do. Quite frankly, every time I have dealt with the police I have found them to be ignorant of logic, physics, morality, manners and above all, the law.

It is unfortunate that I am constantly hearing about who has to deal with their ignorance versus who gets away with murder. To me they are wanna be politicians. I just wish I had something nice to say here other than avoid them like the plague.

Maybe I'm just being immature.

 

[Eric5273]

Originally posted by Juice
every time I have dealt with the police I have found them to be ignorant of logic, physics, morality, manners and above all, the law.

Ever notice that most people get nervous when they see a cop? Some people turn and go the other way. Something is definately wrong with that picture. We should feel safer when we see the police, not scared that they are going to harass us.

A few years ago I was visiting someone in a small town in Ohio and I got pulled over by a cop. I remember thinking to myself, what did I do wrong. I was worried maybe I had been speeding, or passed a stop sign, or something like that.

He walked up to my window and said "by the way you are driving, you appear to be lost.....can I be of any assistance?". I actually was a bit lost and when I told him where I wanted to go, he gave me an escort there.

I think police in big cities can learn something from their counterparts in small towns. They are public servants and should act accordingly.

 

[nkb]

I think the majority of cops are good guys, doing a thankless job. A lot of people say that they hate them, that they are evil, etc, but when they get in trouble, all of a sudden they are the knights in shining armor.

Having said that, unfortunately, there are a number of cops that give the vast majority a bad name. The spectrum goes from the really evil ones that are corrupt, to the guys that don't give a crap, to the ones that abuse their authority.

And, in keeping with the theme of this thread, there are those that think they can harass anyone, just because of the car they drive, or the way they look.

As far as small-town cops (this may be an unfounded stereotype), I'm always paranoid about getting pulled over by an officer in a small community where their one chance to generate money is to give out tickets to people who are passing through, and the judge is their friend or, worse, related to them. No amount of logic will get you out of a bogus ticket.

It's always nice to hear stories about friendly police officers, that go out of their way to help you out.

 

[Juice]

Sorry, but I grew up in a village of less than 400 people. The cops there were not evil or bad. But they did tend to be ignorant. I guess I have seen cops acting in poor conduct too many times to have faith in all the "good" cops out there.

 

[nkb]

It's the same story as ebay sellers: all it takes is a few bad experiences, and you become suspicious of everyone. It sucks.

And I wouldn't be surprised if some cops that are generally good guys can get a bad attitude, due to people who are unfriendly towards them, because they, in turn, have had a bad experience or two.

 

[Dr.Honda]

Why is it Harley riders never get picked up for being too loud?
Most of the Sportsters with straight pipes are alot louder than an NSX with aftermarket exhaust, even at WOT. It's an annoying double-standard!

 

[jadkar]

Why is it Harley riders never get picked up for being too loud?
Most of the Sportsters with straight pipes are alot louder than an NSX with aftermarket exhaust, even at WOT. It's an annoying double-standard!

Very, very good point....I have wondered that for a while. Maybe it's because they're just Harleys not much they can do about it, they're that loud from the factory.

I'll tell you what though, about a week ago I'm walking down Broadway, right near Wall St. (about 2 blocks from ground zero, NYC) when a cop on a Police Harley starts his bike. He was right along the curb, and for no reason cranks his throttle a few times, and makes the loudest F'ing noise I have ever heard (imagine a Harley in a narrow canyon). The ass scares the crap out of about 100 people, like 15 of them hit the deck!! The idiot even starting laughing. I thought this was so uncalled for, especially right near WTC site, where everyone is so edgy. Anyway, I bring this up because of the "above the law" and ignorance factor, I definitely agree.

 

[DocL]

Why is it Harley riders never get picked up for being too loud?
Most of the Sportsters with straight pipes are alot louder than an NSX with aftermarket exhaust, even at WOT. It's an annoying double-standard!

Because that's how they come from the factory!

I don't believe that all officers are bad people, in fact I feel just the opposite. I've had to call the police to have them escort disruptive people from my office and I do appreciate their hard work. Also, I did mention to the officer who pulled me over that I had no intnetion of breaking the law and that I'm a doctor and not some punk out with daddy's car for the night. His response was "Well I'm an officer, what do you mean?"

Anyway, I guess that there will always be ignorant people in powerful positions. The best way to deal with them is to let them shine in their glory for those few minutes that they get their enjoyment out of it. In the end, I still have my NSX.

 

[Eric5273]

unfortunately, there are a number of cops that give the vast majority a bad name. The spectrum goes from the really evil ones that are corrupt, to the guys that don't give a crap, to the ones that abuse their authority.

Unfortunately, good cops can be turned to "evil" ones when surrounded by those types. In most cases, individual cops are not corrupt, but whole precincts. I have a friend that was involved in drug dealing in New York City in the early 1990s. He used to know which zones he was safe in and which he was not. It had to do with which precincts had been paid off and which had not. He was usually only concerned with DEA/undercover detectives. Uniform cops did not worry him and he even sold to them at times.

 

[chumch]

My question is does the fact that its "from the factory" make it less annoying or invasive. Either its loud and illegal or its ok for everyone...shouldnt matter where its from. Use of that kind of logic would also probably say its ok to kill people--but only on mondays.

 

[cojones]

My gf and I decided to go for diner last night in Orlando, which by the way is 200 miles from us, and we got pulled over by the Sheriff for having an aftermarket exhaust. He couldn't tell me what decibel my exhaust was, but he did say that it was louder than stock. Now it was 11:30pm, we were tired and on our way to the hotel, and I was shifting at 3000rpms observing the speed limit.

Did you still have your Taitec JGTC with no cats ?? That setup is borderline obnoxiously loud IMO Check out Andie's black NSX.

Unclear what the regs really say... I've seen / heard of similar problems in Illinois and Wisconsin, but always thought of Florida to be more lenient. The local regs here seem to disallow " aftermarket units that are 'louder than stock' ", but its unclear how this determination is made.

 

[wildbill846]

Why is it Harley riders never get picked up for being too loud?
Most of the Sportsters with straight pipes are alot louder than an NSX with aftermarket exhaust, even at WOT. It's an annoying double-standard!

Well, infact...Harley riders do get harassed quite a bit for loud pipes. I ride a Buell and hear the same complaints on Buell and Harley boards, so I don't think there's a double standard at all.

Bikers learn to watch their throttle as well as their speed when police are around. I do the same in my NSX. Don't rev up high, don't crank the stereo, don't attract the cops.

Bill

 

[wildbill846]

My question is does the fact that its "from the factory" make it less annoying or invasive. Either its loud and illegal or its ok for everyone...shouldnt matter where its from. Use of that kind of logic would also probably say its ok to kill people--but only on mondays.

It makes sense because, production vehicles have to meet federal emission standards which also include noise emission. Buell, infact designed it's Hemholtz airbox on my bike the have a pulse 180 degrees out of phase to reduce noise on the intake side and to help the bike meet those standards. All those Screaming Eagle performance parts and obnoxiously loud aftermarket pipes come labelled "For off-road use only" or "Race Use only". Of course, who uses their Harley for track purposes only?

OEM Harley pipes really aren't that loud...but no Harley rider ever keeps the OEM pipes because the "Harley sound" is part of having the bike.

It is loud, it is illegal....because it is NOt from the factory that way.

Bill