Comptechs Best NSX not near good enough (C&D)

Originally posted by hk4site:
Every car that was ahead of the NSX had very large displacement engines and there is no replacement for cubic inches. It also looks like the NSX was putting out about 400 hp as the 1/4 mile speeds were the same as the stock porsches and corvettes, not 460hp as advertised.
I'm sorry. but yes there is a replacement for displacement and the name is "TURBO"
 
Originally posted by mdoan300:
If I'm not mistaken, that yellow twin turbo C5 belongs to John Page. He lives here in Frisco and goes by NO EXCUSES on corvetteforum.com. And, if I'm not mistaken again, he's married to Lingenfelter's daughter. Anyway, there is a video of him pulling away from a Hayabusa on the George Bush turnpike (for the locals) floating around on the net.

I have a video of a mod supra pulling away from a hayabusa.I tons of more video clips, I tried to share it with you guys, but no one respond.So you know,one of this supras are putting out about 1000hp.
\cheers.
note.there is also a lexus GS300 catching and destroying a viper GTS


[This message has been edited by NSX TT (edited 12 August 2002).]
 
I've noticed the Z06 boys are having a field day on s2ki.com, under Z06 vs. NSX thread with this C&D article. Funny, I thought C&D LOVED the NSX, as they have stated in the past in one of their famed qoutes in praise of our car. NOW they changed their minds? Huh??
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And yes, as usual, the same 4-5 pro-Z06 kids are displaying their juvenile behaviors, posting more subjective, immature, insulting remarks at the NSX. We all know that the NSX is a 12 year old design (an eternity in sports car age), and to compare it to the more recently developed car like the Z06 is rather amusing to say the least. Of course the majority of car enthusiasts (vette fans not excluded) all agree that the NSX WAS a performance bargain for the good 1st half of the 90's and even to the late 90's up until the Z06 came about a few years ago, NSX'ers tend to be open-minded about all sports cars, Z06 included, and sharing our enthusiasm for great cars such as this. But these kids behaved like the Z06 is their shrine they worship upon and insult those NSX fans is downright close-minded and pathetic. I suspect these boys have some kind of ego issues (like having a small member perhaps?) and their remarks implied hatred over import cars as if their patriotism/nationalism depends on it. If you ask me, I smell white-trash mentality in their posts somewhere. Sigh...
 
I seriously hope these kids don't speak for the majority of Vette owners, because if they do, then I'd be totally disappointed in thinking that the Z06 owners are classy folks like those you find in our groups. Glad that I did the right thing when I bought my Z-NSX last year (I could've gotten myself the Z06 instead), because if I did chose the Z06 as my ride, I'd be mingling with these ignorant close-minded trolls in their club meets by now-what a waste of time that'd be.
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Also I've noticed that these close-minded kids NEVER driven a NSX, let alone sit inside one, as this is evident when one of the members in that forum asked if they had sat or driven in one. These guys didn't even answer the question. If they actually driven a NSX they may have better things to say about it, like the majority of open-minded Z06 owners that I've ran into.

Well, to each his own I say.
Cheers to all.
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[This message has been edited by Zanardi 50 (edited 12 August 2002).]
 
Originally posted by POWERED by HONDA:
I am very disappointed by the NSX's showing.

But you know what, I hope Honda sees just how much the NSX is getting it's butt whooped and gets its act together for it's replacement.
Me too. That's what I'm putting my hopes on the New Gen NSX. THey should come up with a large displacement V-8 with at least 450HP and LEAVES room for go fast MODS !!
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If not, I'm gonna take my $$ elsewhere! C'mon Honda, stop playing conservative! You're more capable than that! You're reputation is at stake!!! Do something about it!
 
Originally posted by JimK:
I think its cool that they included the NSX with cars that have twice it's displacement and horsepower. The automobile mags should
run a shootout article for cars 2.0-3.0 liters, 3.0-3.5 liters and so on. I think its widely understood that Honda builds some of the most formidible engines on a hp/cc
basis. Can you imagine a SC'd 4.0 liter V-8
with a prancing H on it?! Then we'd be comparing apples to apples! Just a thought,
I have to take my medication now.

Amen! But you know, these engineering-challenged Z06 proponents don't see that as a factor (rather they see Honda's unwillingness to produce large displacement engines as a lame excuse), so they continue bashing on the NSX.
 
Originally posted by Zanardi 50:
I seriously hope these kids don't speak for the majority of Vette owners, because if they do, then I'd be totally disappointed in thinking that the Z06 owners are classy folks like those you find in our groups. Glad that I did the right thing when I bought my Z-NSX last year (I could've gotten myself the Z06 instead), because if I did chose the Z06 as my ride, I'd be mingling with these ignorant close-minded trolls in their club meets by now-what a waste of time that'd be.
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Well, each his own I say.
Cheers to all.
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Well.All I have to say is that nsx being a 12 year old design its pretty much better car than the Z06.just look how long took to chevrolet to develop something with similar performance of the nsx.plus if you look back.chevrolet still uses a push rod engine that came how more than 30 years ago.because the Z06 is faster,it DOES NOT means is better than the nsx. by the way Z06 interior sucks compare to the 12 years old nsx design
 
Originally posted by NSX TT:
Well.All I have to say is that nsx being a 12 year old design its pretty much better car than the Z06.just look how long took to chevrolet to develop something with similar performance of the nsx.plus if you look back.chevrolet still uses a push rod engine that came how more than 30 years ago.because the Z06 is faster,it DOES NOT means is better than the nsx. by the way Z06 interior sucks compare to the 12 years old nsx design

Hey TT, check out the recent post this S2kpdx01 character posted on that Z06 vs. NSX thread on SK2i.com forum. He said the only reason the Z06 is NOT considered an exotic car is because of its $50,000 price tag, and the reason why the NSX is rated an exotic is because of the 'hefty' price tag! Go figure....
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Anyway, I'm glad C&D talked down the NSX the way it did. This would hopefully give Honda engineers the 'inspiration' to out-do the competition by 2004 or there will be NO NSX at all! Either way, it's a win/win situation for us in the long run. Either Honda will make a killer 2nd gen NSX that just stomps out all competitons OR we old Gen NSX owners gets the ultimate treat as the resale value of our car will indoubtedly go up, particularly the newer models that have seen fewer produced per year than the 91-93's. So fellas, let's keep the secrets to ourselves by hanging on to your NSX's and enjoy the crap out of them as much and as long as possible.
 
The latest road and track is once again saying the next gen NSX will be a hybrib.... I seriously hope not. That would be a huge mistake IMO. I don't think people that spend 100K+ on a car are too worried about gas mileage.

As for power, the new accord has a 3.0 240 HP VTEC engine... They seem to be on a trend of boosting output all around. That is a good sign.
 
the only reason i got my 91 nsx over a z06 is for the style and rarity of it. if i had the 70k for a brand new NSX i would definately not get a new nsx. the stock z06 outperforms the nsx in almost every way. sure the interior sucks, but i like the interior of the new M3 better than the nsx anyway. i actually kind of wish people would stop saying that the NSX is such an awesome top performance car. It might have been in the past, but it is not a exactly a "top" performance car right here, right now. unless you compare it to an RSX or something, which is not supposed to be in its "class". dont get me wrong, i LOVE my nsx, but i wont be boasting any performance numbers to anyone.
 
You know what's an interesting match-ups? the NEW 02 NSX-R vs. the Z06. Now that's what I like to see! I wish C&D can get a hold of this car for their Z06 comparison. It's only fair this way, since the new R is the top of the line NSX as the Z06 is to the C5's.
 
Originally posted by Zanardi 50:
Anyway, I'm glad C&D talked down the NSX the way it did. This would hopefully give Honda engineers the 'inspiration' to out-do the competition by 2004

Said competition to include the new Toyota mid-engine supercar due out next year. This car represents the first real challenge to the NSX's status as the preeminent sports car from the shores of Japan, a situation of which Honda is no doubt acutely aware. Honda has no choice but to respond accordingly.


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'91 black/black
 
I'll predict a 3.5 l V-6 with 350 hp, a curb weight of 2700-2800 lbs. and no significant change in price for the next gen. NSX.
 
Zanardi50 wrote...

"...You know what's an interesting match-ups? the NEW 02 NSX-R vs. the Z06. Now that's what I like to see! I wish C&D can get a hold of this car for their Z06 comparison. It's only fair this way, since the new R is the top of the line NSX as the Z06 is to the C5's...."

I'm sure the performance match-up would be much closer with the R.

However, considering that the Z06 costs about half as much as the R...I'm still not sure it's a fair comparison.

Look, I love my NSX. I love the way it drives, handles, looks and I love the quality. It's just about perfect for me. However, I realize there are other cars out there that are faster, handle better, cost less...and the number of these cars keeps getting larger with each passing year...and I frankly don't care.

The marketplace has already spoken with regard to the NSX and that's why Honda only sells a few hundred a year.

-Jim

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1992 NSX Red/Blk 5 spd #0330
1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
http://homepage.mac.com/jimanders/PhotoAlbum1.html
 
Originally posted by diablo2469:
the only reason i got my 91 nsx over a z06 is for the style and rarity of it. if i had the 70k for a brand new NSX i would definately not get a new nsx. the stock z06 outperforms the nsx in almost every way. sure the interior sucks, but i like the interior of the new M3 better than the nsx anyway. i actually kind of wish people would stop saying that the NSX is such an awesome top performance car. It might have been in the past, but it is not a exactly a "top" performance car right here, right now. unless you compare it to an RSX or something, which is not supposed to be in its "class". dont get me wrong, i LOVE my nsx, but i wont be boasting any performance numbers to anyone.

Well.if you like to compare the nsx to much to another cars,such M3,Z06.I guess you gona exchange pretty soon.what is funny is that this cars are you talking about are up to day cars,and nsx have been around for while already.can you tell me what took so long for this manufactures to realize that their cars wasn't all that,maybe untill now? any way Z06 ,M3 parked side to side we'll see who gets the most attention. no hard feelings
 
Originally posted by Jimbo:
Zanardi50 wrote...

"...You know what's an interesting match-ups? the NEW 02 NSX-R vs. the Z06. Now that's what I like to see! I wish C&D can get a hold of this car for their Z06 comparison. It's only fair this way, since the new R is the top of the line NSX as the Z06 is to the C5's...."

I'm sure the performance match-up would be much closer with the R.

However, considering that the Z06 costs about half as much as the R...I'm still not sure it's a fair comparison.

Look, I love my NSX. I love the way it drives, handles, looks and I love the quality. It's just about perfect for me. However, I realize there are other cars out there that are faster, handle better, cost less...and the number of these cars keeps getting larger with each passing year...and I frankly don't care.

The marketplace has already spoken with regard to the NSX and that's why Honda only sells a few hundred a year.

-Jim

I COULDNT AGREE MORE WITH YOU.
 
What will Japan do with the new NSX?

They obviously have their agreement about 280HP, how will Honda build a new ~350-400HP NSX and sell it on Japanese shores?

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1994 Pearl Yellow Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo
1970 Dodge Challenger 383 Magnum
 
not sure if it's the latest autoweek, c&d or motor trend (i get them all at the same time), but the japanese manufacture has all but agreed to drop the 280hp limit on their cars.
they better be because with the new HP war, 300 is going to be blown past in no time.
 
Hi Dan, sadly no, haven't been running the Richey's lately. Just finishing up B-School so I haven't had time to do much of anything but work/school (OK, I snuck off for Bondurant and Skip Barber racing school, but other that, I've spent all my time on homework!!! Will try to get back at the 1:10 scale grand prix shortly...
 
Thats good to hear. I just got my Richey RTU before Dennis stopped all his public engine mods. Lucky me I guess! Hopefully see you at Castle soon...
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Oh yeah, if you're wondering, I don't drive an NSX...YET.
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