what's your ideal track car?
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Taj said:
Well, Polar started this Thread and I sure did not mean to sidetrack/hijack his original query.
Besides, Polar said that the Subject of Track cars had been a little slow lately-
Kinda woke up now didn't it?! :biggrin:
I was just following the lead of alternative vehicles and RADICAL was mentioned.
I am much more knowledgeable about the Atom, I just happened to have some info on the RADICAL that I gained when researching the Atom.
Originally I responded with a post of my opinion of the ARIEL Atom.
The Atom is where my personal interest lies.
I am considering having an Atom built.
Then there is the Ariel Atom Thread that was started
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50221
For all u Radical luvers. You do realize that the Stohrs are faster, lighter, and cheaper since they are built in U.S.A. :biggrin: :biggrin:
http://www.stohr.com/
http://www.stohr.com/
For those of you that want more inf on RADICALs here is a Forum link
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?f=83&h=0&p=0&faq=False
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?f=83&h=0&p=0&faq=False
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How about this one? You can pick one up for about $15K. It's not as fast as the Stohr/Radical, but parts (1st gen Mr2 drive-train, etc) are cheap (engine+tranny less than $900.00, clutch $150), easy to maintain. This one will soon take its maiden drive on the street (just want to avoid the trailering hassle) to the track.
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so, what exactly is that???
Yeah, I think everyone missing polar's question... Which is an inexpensive track car, which, if in case we have more money, we can start some fender to fender racing.
Yes, it could be dedicate track car, but having some room for bring track (or rain tires, vice versa), some tools, spare parts, able to drive to and from track is a must.
me, polar and freelance are all approaching to the point that keep pushing the nsx's envelope becoming a risky business. On the other hand, converting the nsx to a total track car is not quite appealing either. Getting a dedicated track car could be a good solution for all of us. And before we jumping into another money pit, we would like some advices...
Yeah, I think everyone missing polar's question... Which is an inexpensive track car, which, if in case we have more money, we can start some fender to fender racing.
Yes, it could be dedicate track car, but having some room for bring track (or rain tires, vice versa), some tools, spare parts, able to drive to and from track is a must.
me, polar and freelance are all approaching to the point that keep pushing the nsx's envelope becoming a risky business. On the other hand, converting the nsx to a total track car is not quite appealing either. Getting a dedicated track car could be a good solution for all of us. And before we jumping into another money pit, we would like some advices...
German mag "sport auto" just tested the street legal SR 3 with 205 PS (N/A, no SC) on Dunlop Direzza street legal tires and had fantastic results:Cruzrmm said:Sorry to Hijack the Thread to skew it to RADICALs, just following the flow...
Here are some pics of a SR3 w/1400 and Supercharged-
149hp stock / SC = 265hp
CRAZY HP for 1400cc
1.09,1 min on Hockenheim short track (about 5 seconds faster than the NSX-R), up to 1.6 g lateral, up to 12.3 m/square seconds braking, 0-100 km/h in 4.4 seconds, top speed 233 km/h.
If that is too slow for you, there is a SR 8 with 2 Hayabusa engines and 380 PS - not yet street legal, but that is planed.
I've see the V8 on the bench, its awesome. There are other british suppliers who are doing the same thing, there could be a V8 Caterham.
I have driven a Radical and personally i don't like out and out race cars. You just destroy everything at trackdays, it's almost too fast for it's own good.
The new Caterham will be THE car to have i reckon.
-Rob
I have driven a Radical and personally i don't like out and out race cars. You just destroy everything at trackdays, it's almost too fast for it's own good.
The new Caterham will be THE car to have i reckon.
-Rob
Does the fact that the NSX is aluminum reduce its appeal as a track car in any of your minds?
It just seems to me that it takes a whole lot less damage to write one off. Wouldnt something that can take a beating and get fixed up for cheap be better? Couldnt what may be considered a moderate crash in a M3/993 be a write off for an NSX?
It just seems to me that it takes a whole lot less damage to write one off. Wouldnt something that can take a beating and get fixed up for cheap be better? Couldnt what may be considered a moderate crash in a M3/993 be a write off for an NSX?
A big Yes!! Espeicially everytime I'm approaching the braking zone and/or the middle of the chicane!!!
I have to say, during my track shenanagins a few days ago a guy who was a GT winner of the 24hrs of Daytona took me out in his pristine 993TT (with 100k plus miles on it!).
I was absolutely shocked what that street tire equipped car could do in his hands. Not that its not an impressive car, because it sure is, but in the hands of a very capable person that car reached mythical status as far as Im concerned. From 140mph to 80mph in one second without any complaints and hammering around corners like it had R compounds that were 350mm wide.
Loved it.
I was absolutely shocked what that street tire equipped car could do in his hands. Not that its not an impressive car, because it sure is, but in the hands of a very capable person that car reached mythical status as far as Im concerned. From 140mph to 80mph in one second without any complaints and hammering around corners like it had R compounds that were 350mm wide.
Loved it.
Ask me why I have the front brakes from the 993 TT on my NSX... :biggrin:SPA_S2000 said:
Just out of curiosity, how easy was the 993TT big red fab onto the front of your NSX? Have you found that the f/r bias is messed up with those monsters up front?
Were going off topic again. I too am interested in a getting a "track" car. I don't want to scratch up my beloved NSX, and am thinking of getting a dedicated club racer/DE car. A vehicle that I don't mind getting scratches etc.
Here are the choices:
1. DE car, my choices are: Integra Type R, E36 m3, SM(possibly with a turbo), 944 Turbo or drive the NSX at less than 9/10th and realize that it will potentially get some scratches but atleast I get to enjoy it on the track.
2. Club racing: SM, 944 turbo or E36 M3. No ITR b/c the HC has a LONG LONG ways to go before it is a club in Texas.
3. Get a Formula Mazda, a truck and a trailer. This is the least likely option due to the cost, lack of garage space, wife, etc.
The atom would be an excellent choice. too bad it will cost more than $50k in U.S. I have also thought about getting a Lotus 7 replica - unfortunately, it wouldn't give me the option of club racing in the future.
Since I still have ways to go to learn the NSX, I figure I have a good 1-2 years to debate this topic in my head. :tongue:
Here are the choices:
1. DE car, my choices are: Integra Type R, E36 m3, SM(possibly with a turbo), 944 Turbo or drive the NSX at less than 9/10th and realize that it will potentially get some scratches but atleast I get to enjoy it on the track.
2. Club racing: SM, 944 turbo or E36 M3. No ITR b/c the HC has a LONG LONG ways to go before it is a club in Texas.
3. Get a Formula Mazda, a truck and a trailer. This is the least likely option due to the cost, lack of garage space, wife, etc.
The atom would be an excellent choice. too bad it will cost more than $50k in U.S. I have also thought about getting a Lotus 7 replica - unfortunately, it wouldn't give me the option of club racing in the future.
Since I still have ways to go to learn the NSX, I figure I have a good 1-2 years to debate this topic in my head. :tongue:
I trust you know you're dancing on the edge of a slippery slope and racing is right around the corner. A truck and trailer should be part of any commitment to racing because you'll not be assured of driving it home every time if you're driving it hard in an actual race. I'm talking about mechanical breakdowns as well as contact.
If you can swallow the truck/trailer issue, talk to me about costs and requirements of an FM. BTW, I haul mine on a single axle open trailer with my wife's Subaru Outback, rated for 2000# towing, which is exactly what the trailer weight is loaded with the car, a couple of EZ-ups and a spare set of tires. But, I don't have any long grades in my tow to T-Hill, Sears Point and Laguna.
It was easy for me because I had let all the work done by mov'it - at least for the front. They have special mounting parts for the NSX. I never had any bias issue because I drive with ABS and if a tire starts to slip it slips with every brake and the brake is automaticaly released.SPA_S2000 said:
Later I added the brakes from the 996 GT 3 at the rears, not really for bias and performance issues but they last much longer than the stock brakes and they are cheaper to maintain in the long run (plus a one piston Brembo e-brake).
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