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Whats about USER Deamon and the Deamon Supra?

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Hello everybody,

I am from switzerland.
Does anybody know what`s about Deamon Supra MK4?
At www.supratraderonline.com the car is still for sale.

I am searching for an current e-mail address to contact him.
Because I wanna buy this car. But in an german forum I read his Supra 94 is wrecked.? Is this really true.

Thanks for any help you can give to me.
 
I would find another one. Even if it's not totalled... you don't want to deal with the guy.
 
I think I have seen that ad before, years ago, it must be old.
 
he did get 3000 back it was 5000 and its 2000left

So if I understand this story correctly, there were never any seats to begin with, Vance's $ was accepted anyway, quickly spent, and is now still not paid back after nearly two years ? :confused:
 
Just in case you didn't follow the original story, I believe Daemon was just a go between and got caught in the crossfire, though there may be more to it than that. Daemon was the one who accepted the money via paypal, but it was for a 3rd party. The 3rd party last I read claimed to have the seats but didn't want to send them for fear than Vance would claim they were fakes.
 
Just in case you didn't follow the original story, I believe Daemon was just a go between and got caught in the crossfire, though there may be more to it than that. Daemon was the one who accepted the money via paypal, but it was for a 3rd party. The 3rd party last I read claimed to have the seats but didn't want to send them for fear than Vance would claim they were fakes.

So what's so hard about backing out of the deal and refunding Vance ? The issue isn't the seats.......If the 3rd party didn't provide the seats, then they (the 3rd party) should never have been given Vance's $ in the first place. Again, if there's no deal, you don't take the money anyway and go out and spend it !!!
 
So what's so hard about backing out of the deal and refunding Vance ? The issue isn't the seats.......If the 3rd party didn't provide the seats, then they (the 3rd party) should never have been given Vance's $ in the first place. Again, if there's no deal, you don't take the money anyway and go out and spend it !!!

Just saying, don't jump on Daemon, go read the original thread before you chime in here so you at least know what happened. Also this happened around 2 years ago.

original thread is here:
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66629&highlight=seats
 
Just saying, don't jump on Daemon, go read the original thread before you chime in here so you at least know what happened. Also this happened around 2 years ago.

original thread is here:
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66629&highlight=seats

I was hanging out in Vance's shop and talking to him personally when this crap was going down....I don't need a history lesson about the thread. I understand that you're defending the guy based on his version of events, but i for one, don't buy his song and dance....(JUst show Vance the money !!!)
 
I'm defending him based on VANCE's version of the story. If there's more to the story than what was in the OP, then I'm not privy to it, but Vance repeatedly apologized in the thread that Daemon was caught in the middle.
 
.........Fine, I don't want to get in a pissing contest anyway....I just took offense to the notion that I was a Johnny come lately to the story, when in fact, I wasn't. Vance reads Prime..he can wrap up this story if he wants...it's his territory to comment anyway.....He's a really easy going guy....when this stufff was happening and I would see him.......I'd be more pissed off than him about the missing money........He's always chillin like Matt Dillion on Penacillian !!! (it's my lunch hour...I needed to write something silly)
 
I can understand that, my 'you' wasn't meant to target you specifically but 'you' as in everyone who may want to jump in here and add their 2 cents without knowing the story. However, I reread what I wrote and it does look like I meant you personally. So for that I apologize.
 
he did get 3000 back it was 5000 and its 2000left

Keveh, still around? How about repy my PM and return my money.

You returned $2 of the $7 grand. So the balance is $5 grand, not $2 grand!!!


All right, here is the deal. Investigated by Paypal and some other Prime members who lives in Swedan.

Deamon (Keveh) was the seller in behalf of Patrik. However, Patrik never owned an NSX, he is a government worker who doesn't make a lot of money. After a Deamon/Keveh was notified of a report filed with IC3/FBI, he imediately returned 2 grand. However, after that one repayment, he slowly stop responding to my e-mail. Thanks to some prime members from Swedan who got me the contact information of Patrik and he claimed that he is not aware of this transaction. He only met Keveh at a car show.

During the transaction, I offer to wire the money directly to Patrik, but Keveh requested on doing this through him because Patrik is "not" very good with computer and he does not have a Paypal account.

So that's the scoop. Paypal is putting a collection on his credit report. I assumed that they have a similar system here in the US.

I was trying to be nice because I gave him the benefit of doubt.

During the incident, he told me that he is liquidating all of his cars (3 NSXs, Supra, and the M Coupe)because he has a Murcerlargo convertible on order.... Selling his NSX, pulling a scam on the seats for down payment? You guys decide. Shortly after I sent the money, I ask him not to release the money till he see the seats, but he didn't do that.

Paypal filed a report with the Swedish police in my behalf, I have received a letter from them a while back, and I forward it to the FBI/IC3. It will be just a matter of time before they go after him. FBI/IC3 is a little slow but they will get to it.

If you want to see some of the PM, I'll be more than happy to post them on this thread.
 
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I take everything back, obviously that info wasn't out there previously and I hope this guy gets what's coming to him. I know firsthand how slow the FBI can be, but once they grab on to you, they don't let go and they will make you pay for the rest of your life. I've seen people extradited for less than this.

Daemon, I don't know if you're just broke or if you think you're safe over there. Maybe you're feeling relaxed because it's been two years. Honestly if I were you, I'd find a way to get that money back and have Vance call off the dogs, because once the FBI decides they have the man power to pursue this case, it's going to cost you at least 20-40x the money you owe Vance to hire an attorney to defend yourself and try to prevent extradition to the US. Unbeknownst to me, they had been investigating me for 4 years before they actually showed up at my door. When they arrested me here in the US for breaking the No Electronic Theft Act (no money involved, just uploading and downloading software on the internet like everyone else does) it cost me $250,000 in legal fees just to plead guilty. They even pulled people off the 9/11 airline investigation for my case. I'm not kidding, they had computer specialists going through airline records they pulled so they could use them to analyze my friggin PC and to fly to Chicago to sit in court as expert witnesses. You just never know how they are going to prioritize.

Maybe they'll never get to you, maybe they are just simply too busy these days, is that a gamble you're willing to take?
 
This is actually good, because IC3/FBI told me to keep the file updated every time some thing new comes up.

Obviously Keveh does not have his story straight and this only strengthen the case against him.

Any thing over $5000 USD is treated as felony in this country.
 
Re: Where is Patrik?

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I have submit information to Paypal. I told them 3000 USD was returned. Unfortunately, they will not unfreeze your account unless it is pay back in full. However, I have told them I will consider $5000 total in return as pay back in full. They told me not to do it, but I insisted. So once you have return two more thousand, They will honor my request and reopen your account.
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This is what you PM me about
i send you 3k not 2k as u say
why are u laying for ??
 
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Originally Posted by Deamon
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Originally Posted by Vancehu
Kevin, I got USD $2979 deposit into my account today. It wasn't $3500 as I was hoping for, but thanks.

If you recall my previous e-mail, if you can return total of $5000, I will contact Paypal and tell them the payment is refund in full, so if you can extract the extra money by selling Patrik's motorcycle as you claimed...

Again, thanks.

Vance

so know im prepering the last foundings for you
im going to meet up whith patrik in next week and come to a soulution

Thank you, all I ask for is $2000 more. If you can get the other $2000 from Patrik, keep it.
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Fujitsubo Exhaust Manifold, GT-One v.2 Titanium Super Flow Exhaust, Test Pipes, Mugen AIS
2006 Honda S2000 Berlina Black/Black Interior
 
Keveh, I mentioned that I will compensate you for getting my money back. If you can get me $5000 USD, you can keep the rest. Looking forward to hear from you Monday.
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Fujitsubo Exhaust Manifold, GT-One v.2 Titanium Super Flow Exhaust, Test Pipes, Mugen AIS
2006 Honda S2000 Berlina Black/Black Interior
 
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