I would spend $1200 to get the timing belt and water pump replaced, assuming that has not yet been done.
What would you do?
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>>>"There is absolutely no need for stainless brake lines..."
As a flat unqualified statement, based on my experience I'd have to disagree with that. The term "need" could be debated, but they do provide a positive change in operating characteristics. After replacing the OEM "rubber" line sections on my CRX with SS braided lines, the increase in pedal firmness was absolutely discernible. It went from being what I would now describe as a typical/normal firm pedal, to being absolutely rock-hard. I had considered that the flex associated with the OEM lines would be negligible, and was actually surprised to find that wasn't the case. I only tried them because that was a case where I decided to push aside my own gut feel and go with what the pros said, and they were right. As with some other things, the lack of firmness with the original setup wasn't really apparent to me until after I experienced the change. No, the stock lines were not "old". The value? In theory is should allow more accurate modulation of brake pressure under heavy braking conditions. I know there are failure modes, as with anything else, but given quality construction and proper installation, I don't mind placing some confidence in teflon tubing and stainless as far as materials are concerned. Although I lack the detailed knowledge to attest to the quality of the lines I used, I have some confidence based on experience with the supplier; in this case King Motorsports.
I also run DOT 5 silicone-based brake fluid in that car (per Jackson Racing recommendations), which is another thing that I realize is somewhat controversial, but which has served me well over time.
Disclaimer: I don't recommend the use of either of those products in any car.
I will also add that the braking system of my NSX is showroom stock.
- Richard
As a flat unqualified statement, based on my experience I'd have to disagree with that. The term "need" could be debated, but they do provide a positive change in operating characteristics. After replacing the OEM "rubber" line sections on my CRX with SS braided lines, the increase in pedal firmness was absolutely discernible. It went from being what I would now describe as a typical/normal firm pedal, to being absolutely rock-hard. I had considered that the flex associated with the OEM lines would be negligible, and was actually surprised to find that wasn't the case. I only tried them because that was a case where I decided to push aside my own gut feel and go with what the pros said, and they were right. As with some other things, the lack of firmness with the original setup wasn't really apparent to me until after I experienced the change. No, the stock lines were not "old". The value? In theory is should allow more accurate modulation of brake pressure under heavy braking conditions. I know there are failure modes, as with anything else, but given quality construction and proper installation, I don't mind placing some confidence in teflon tubing and stainless as far as materials are concerned. Although I lack the detailed knowledge to attest to the quality of the lines I used, I have some confidence based on experience with the supplier; in this case King Motorsports.
I also run DOT 5 silicone-based brake fluid in that car (per Jackson Racing recommendations), which is another thing that I realize is somewhat controversial, but which has served me well over time.
Disclaimer: I don't recommend the use of either of those products in any car.
I will also add that the braking system of my NSX is showroom stock.
- Richard
You can do that for far less than $10k. Invest in some HPDE. Preferably taught by a quality race school. No slight against clubs - many have excellent instructors - but the quality of the instructors at good schools is generally (though not always) more consistent and of better quality.
Without a doubt that investment is the very best one you can make.
I was very fortunate to take two one-day courses right after I bought my NSX in 1994 at a high quality school and it was the best money I ever spent (next to the NSX). The knowledge I learned helped me to enjoy my NSX far more than I would have ever guessed. They taught everything from how to hold the steering wheel correctly to trail braking and heel and toeing.
Once you have spent some time learning the basics, follow the courses up with track time to practice what you have been taught. The best thing about this type of practice is that not only will you be able to legally drive your NSX at speeds that it was meant for (for a high grin factor), but you can do it in a safe environment.
If you still want to spend some money on your car I suggest you start with the brakes (I think the StopTech AeroRotors are excellent), pads and lines. Folks who track their NSXs seem to agree that is a weak area.
Good luck and have fun.
[This message has been edited by NSX Maven (edited 16 March 2003).]
My statement was intended to apply only to the NSX. Sorry for omitting this qualification.
nsxtasy, I plan have the timing belt and related components replaced soon at Don's Hilltop.
NSX Maven, I hear you. Track time is good. Any recomendations for the San Francisco bay area anyone?
NSX Maven, I hear you. Track time is good. Any recomendations for the San Francisco bay area anyone?
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