What is APPLE planning?

Does anyone actually own a 4S?

Care to do a review?

I have a 4s.

I've had no significant problems with it. Here are the main impressions I have:

- CPU speed: Almost no one says the iPhone 4 is slow. Yet with iOS 4, there were small pauses where you could tell it was swapping memory in and out when launching memory hungry programs. iOS 5 sped things up so that the 4 didn't feel at all slow anymore. With the 4s, everything is instant. The web browser, especially on wifi, feels just as fast as my Core i7 laptop. I'm not saying it IS faster, I'm saying it just feels that way. Basically, the "waiting for the cpu," even for a fraction of a second feeling has been nearly eliminated.

- Download speed is better: The (AT&T) 3G download speed is definitely faster than the 4. I run Speedtest.net all the time just to see how reception is in different places, and my average speed is around 5 Mbps. It varies of course. With the old phone, my best ever record was 5 Mbps (happened only once ever at night in an office park when everyone was gone) and the average was about 3.5 Mbps. Now with the 4s I get 4.5-5.5 Mbps all the time. With 3 bars of reception, I get 3.85Mbps. I get the feeling AT&T's backhaul network connection is now the bottleneck since at some point, better reception doesn't make things faster.

- The battery life is worse than the 4, but still quite good. With very light use, you can go a couple of days with the 4s, but typical use will give you a day and a half. In standby, the battery drops by about 3% after 8 hours, with push email off and instead set to hourly fetch (which is what I do). Since people are also reporting iOS 5 makes their iPhone 4 battery life worse, I think part of the issue is software and will eventually get optimized further. I have also noticed after a few weeks of usage, the battery life has gotten better, indicating the battery is getting broken in.

- The color rendition of the screen, which some people say is yellow, is actually super accurate since everything is color corrected. I think home theater people would say it's "warmer." Taking photos in my office, then putting the phone right next to the subject and comparing shows the effectiveness of the camera in getting colors right and the display showing them. Of course, you can fool it, but in normal pictures, it works well.

The video stabilization definitely works, but in a subtle way. It's not like you are suddenly wearing a steadi-cam or doing dolly shots. It is the kind of thing where you don't realize the stabilization is there until you see it turned off.

Other than a couple of casual shots, I have not really taken a lot of photos yet, so I can't compare the overall quality of the camera compared to the 4, other than the aforementioned color accuracy.

- I can't tell much difference in the overall cell reception compared to the 4, except you can no longer do the "touch of death" thing with the antenna. The touchy antenna didn't affect me in real world usage anyway, so I see it as being the same.

- Siri is the most trumpeted feature, and it's pretty cool. I find myself starting to do simple things with it (like check the weather, ask definitions of words, make reminders). I see it as a platform that, IF they execute it right, can grow into something truly awesome over time. It also makes hilarious mistakes if you mumble too much. Not perfect by any means, but definitely a good start.

I think the rest of the differences are with iOS 5, which is not 4s specific.
 
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I recommend a mophie juice pack for your iPhone if you want to truly go all day without recharging your battery. I do a lot of gaming and browsing at work, :tongue: , and I'm out on the line and don't have a way to keep my phone charged, so I decided to get a Mophie pack. I wish I would have gotten it sooner. I think it adds like another 6 hours of life to the phone. While the phone is in the battery case, you charge/sync using USB, i'm not sure if it's micro USB or mini USB, same port as some Android phones my coworkers use.

Now I need to see if there is an cable that will connect from that USB to the iPod dock connector coming out of my Kenwood head unit so I can still play music from the phone without taking it out of the case. Of course, I can just take it out of the juice pack, and it keeps it charged too.
 
I agree -- "units shipped" is always a bogus statistic. They could ship a billion units, and it still wouldn't matter -- tell me how many they actually sold (and by "sold" I mean ended up in the hands of a consumer, not sitting in a warehouse somewhere), and how much money they made in the process.

http://techpinions.com/apple-is-still-the-1-smart-phone-vendor/3637

First (something that shockingly needs to be continually pointed out), the numbers released in Samsung’s earnings of 27.8 million smart phones shipped is product shipped into the channel not sold to consumers. In reality the carriers stores are Samsung’s customers since their goal is to sell phones to carriers who then try to sell them to consumers. This is called having a channel strategy, something Apple does very differently due to their rather large retail presence. Another differentiating point regarding numbers is that Apple actually releases the number of products sold to consumers where many other companies do not.

Second, the statement that Samsung is the largest “shipper” of smartphones can only apply to Samsung’s Q3 for 2011 not per anum. Apple still sells annually more smartphones than any other manufacturer.
 
Bet Apple's is more concerned about units sold and profit instead of units "shipped". When one reads these stories in the press it always amuses me that they don't include actual units sold and estimated profits.

Reality distortion field.....
 
I've read a few reviews in the last few days about battery life problems on i4s. Anyone here have any?
 
Yep article mentions it's availability for devs. Just posted because I know someone asked earlier if anyone is having issues with battery life.

Haven't really looked into it, but I read someone mention the battery issue had something to do with the automatic location time set or something of the sort.
 
Paul Thurott (one of the biggest Apple skeptics ever, but fair) has posted his review:

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/iphone/apple-iphone-4s-140970

It was a good review but Thurrott is such an arse. I mean, really the 4S has a working antenna? Really? Like the 4 didn't? What, did 3% of users in certain areas have a problem. And this comment...

...it did apparently address a serious "attenuation" issue (think "signal loss") that was endemic to the first iPhone 4S.

Huh? Serious issue? Let's even overlook the silly typo where he wrote 4s instead of 4. For the tiny percentage of people that lived in crappy reception areas? Hey, Thurrott... If it was such a serious issue then why don't you tell us what the iPhone 4 customer return rate was? Hmmm?

Secondly...

Compared to Windows Phone, the iPhone 4S is lacking the integrated services functionality of Microsoft's platform....

Is he kidding? No, it has the integrated services functionality of Apple's platform. Which, by the way can also work just fine with MS Office documents via iWork and the iApps. What a dweebie side-swipe of a comment.

I also wish he would have delved into the enterprise/security/business benefits and strengths of the iPhone that always seen to be glossed over by casual reviewers.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/

Here's another columnist who like the 4S...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht..._apustecdigitallifetechtestphoneshopping.html

-Jim
 
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I used a 4s tonight. Siri is kinda cool but not nessacerry. I didn't really notice any big changes but I don't use an iPhone all the time either. Interesting it'd bit is the girl who's phone I used switched from droid. She didn't have any real good reason why she switched though.

Side note, just finished the autobiography, really good IMO. Steve was a nut for sure.
 
The phone part of the 4s is much better then the 4. The 4 sucked as a phone compared to my 3 gs and the 4s is back on track as a phone
 
Side note, just finished the autobiography, really good IMO. Steve was a nut for sure.[/QUOTE]

I saw they had it at Costco. Glad to hear it's a decent read.
 
Side note, just finished the autobiography, really good IMO. Steve was a nut for sure.

I saw they had it at Costco. Glad to hear it's a decent read.[/QUOTE]

Better than decent. For me kinda like a time machine. It brought back a lot of memories of growing up during the birth of computers. It was cool to see how it all played out from a perspective I did not understand at the time which it was happening. Someone involved in the tech industry during it's birth would most likely enjoy the book even more than I did.
 
It was a good review but Thurrott is such an arse. I mean, really the 4S has a working antenna? Really? Like the 4 didn't?

The 4 did not have a properly working antenna. This is fact, not Applehate. Consumer Reports refused to recommend the phone for this reason alone.

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The 4 did not have a properly working antenna. This is fact, not Applehate. Consumer Reports refused to recommend the phone for this reason alone.

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Actually, it worked fine for most people, and that is also a fact. Certainly for me and my coworkers in San Diego. I carried one around for 15 months or so, the last 10 months bare without a case. It had the touchy antenna spot, but for normal use, it was unnoticeable. It actually had better reception than my 3gs did.

I think people's experience also depends on AT&T's coverage in the area.
 
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Would you concede that a properly designed antenna should work fine for everyone?

If you're in a crappy reception zone a "properly designed" antenna could still cause problems.

I think no matter what you do antenna-wise there's always going to be a small percentage of users who are going to have reception problems.

So, if the iP4 had 3% user problems perhaps the the iP4s will have 1.5% problems. It's still a stretch to say the iP4 had a non-working antenna.


BTW: Consumer Reports is a discredited source. They're nothing but shills.
 
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