vBulletin 3 upgrade questions, problems & tips

[Yellow Rose]

Kudos.....

.....to Lud for a fantastic morph into the new version!!!

Change is good.

Greed is good. (to quote Michael Douglas in the movie Wall Street)

Change is good.....as in, from SC to TC?

 

[NSX Prime]

Re: What happened to NSXPRIME??? NO SEARCH ??

The Photopost Gallery is broken right now. I'm working on it but having some trouble. Hopefully I'll get it straightened out soon.

Photo gallery is fixed now. I will be working to integrate it directly into the main forums soon so it will simply appear to be part of the main forums instead of it's own area.

 

[nsxtasy]

The reason for making you click the quick reply button in the message is so the system knows what message you are replying to. I can disble that, and let people just start typing in the quick reply box at the bottom and hit Submit, but then the threaded and hybrid thread views become useless.

My opinion is that basically, all posts either (a) are about the topic in general, so a relationship to a specific message is not necessary, or (b) are in response to a specific message, in which case they quote (or, at least, should quote) the post they are replying to.

Furthermore, keep in mind that we are only setting a default here; if people are replying to a specific message, they will still hit the quote/reply button in that message instead of using the quick reply box.

My strong recommendation is still for setting the default to automatically enable the quick reply box.

 

[NSX Prime]

My opinion is that basically, all posts either (a) are about the topic in general, so a relationship to a specific message is not necessary, or (b) are in response to a specific message, in which case they quote (or, at least, should quote) the post they are replying to.

Furthermore, keep in mind that we are only setting a default here; if people are replying to a specific message, they will still hit the quote/reply button in that message instead of using the quick reply box.

My strong recommendation is still for setting the default to automatically enable the quick reply box.

Using the quote button keeps track of the message you are replying to.

There is no "reply" button in messages, only the quick-reply button. The generic reply button is at the bottom of the thread.

The generic reply button assumes you are replying to the last message in the thread, which is often a bad assumption. I could remove the generic reply button and force people to use quote or quick-reply buttons in the message they want to respond to, and that would probably make threads work pretty well....

Basically I'm not going to have both threaded views AND the auto-activated quick reply box. I'll probably either leave quick-reply as it is and remove the generic "reply" button, or remove the threaded and hybrid views and leave the generic reply button and set the quick-reply box to always be active. I'll see how things work out for a little while before making any changes.

 

[SoCalDude]

Re: What happened to NSXPRIME??? NO SEARCH ??

Photo gallery is fixed now. I will be working to integrate it directly into the main forums soon so it will simply appear to be part of the main forums instead of it's own area.

I can see the gallery now but can't find a link to upload.

 

[NSX Prime]

Re: What happened to NSXPRIME??? NO SEARCH ??

I can see the gallery now but can't find a link to upload.

I think the cookies are out of sync between the Gallery and Forums. Make sure you are logged in on the Gallery toolbar (below the main forum toolbar) in addition to being logged into the forums. I know it's confusing, but it will all be integrated together soon.

 

[KGP]

Re: What happened to NSXPRIME??? NO SEARCH ??

Make sure you are logged in on the Gallery toolbar

I did, and it accepts my login during the re-direct, but still doesn't seem to recognize me. Likewise, the upload function is not available. Maybe it is a cookie issue.

 

[nsxtasy]

This comment is about the titles that appear above individual posts.

With the old version, the default title when you were posting was:

- the title of the topic, for the first post in a topic;
- the title of the post you are replying to, if you're replying to a post that has a title;
- blank, otherwise.

Now, with the new version, it's apparently:

- the title of the topic, for the first post in a topic;
- the title of the post you are replying to, if you're replying to a post that has a title;
- the title of the topic, otherwise.

Which means that just about every topic is getting a title on it, creating excessive clutter, and nobody's going to look at the post titles anyway if they're almost always just the title of the topic.

Would it be possible to change a parameter so that the default works the old way, so that it's easier to have posts without titles above them?

 

[Mr.Wolf]

I would like a larger SEARCH icon that flashes so rapidly it causes seizures.

 

[FuryNSX]

Re: What happened to NSXPRIME??? NO SEARCH ??

I did, and it accepts my login during the re-direct, but still doesn't seem to recognize me. Likewise, the upload function is not available. Maybe it is a cookie issue.

I am with you on this. I logged in for both the forums AND the gallery, but I can't seem to find a way to upload or delete pics.

 

[Ojas]

To me, it sounds like the forum's underlying display implementation varies by platform.

It’s certainly possible and rather common, but this would not be my first guess. The new version relies much more on CSS rather HTML’s FONT tags for marking up text, including font sizes. Not all browsers support the same level of CSS, so certain things may appear slightly different in different browsers. Additionally, since CSS allows sizes to be specified in pixels as well as points (and since the forum software uses both ways), the DPI setting of the operating system and browser (if the browser has such a setting) can affect font sizes.

Well, that probably does not help out much, but I thought I’d at least mention it.

 

[Yellow Rose]

When I post a reply to a thread, when I click on the “back” button nothing happens. I have to go to the top of the forums page and start over.

When I go into a post to just read it but not post a reply, when I click on the “back” button it takes be back to the previous screen like it is supposed to.

Why the inconsistency?

 

[SilverOne]

2 questions:

1) What's the quick reply text box for? It says to click on one of the quick reply buttons from the post, but I don't see any such button.

2) Can you put back the link on the front page that allows display of all new threads that have not been read. That was a very useful feature.

thank you.

 

[AndyH]

Am I the only one that keep on getting the error msg everytime I go to "Owner Galleries" section? It said "A runtime error has occur. Do you wish to debug?"

anyone can helps me fix this annoying error?

 

[Lud]

Andy - Huh? When you post a reply it gives you a "thanks for posting" page that automatically redirects you to the thread you just replied to. If you then click the back arrow it takes you back to the redirect page, which then redirects you again to your reply. This is exactly how the old version worked. Where are you trying to go after you post your reply?


Silverone -
1) The quick reply button is this one in the bottom right corner of each message:

2) In the middle of the red navigation bar at the top is a link for "New Posts".


AndyH - The problem you describe does sounds like your browser is crashing. I can view the galleries just fine, it's just having some trouble tracking people's logins (cookie problems).

 

[RSO 34]

I have noticed today that at many times there were over 250 persons visting the site with 200+ "guests" surfing with only approximately 50 members being online at the same time. That seems to be an unusually high number of non-members looking at the site. When the "who's online" feature is used, it sometimes lists upwards of 10+ guests looking a particular thread but there seems to be a time lag as to whether they are still in that thread.

Does this new software have a "delay" in terms of acknowledging that guests are no longer viewing the site?

 

[Ojas]

Am I the only one that keep on getting the error msg everytime I go to "Owner Galleries" section? It said "A runtime error has occur. Do you wish to debug?"

anyone can helps me fix this annoying error?

Sounds like you are using IE and have "Display a notification about every script error" (under Tools > Options > Advanced) checked. You can uncheck this to work around this issue. If this box is unchecked and if the page contains an error, you will still see an error icon in the lower-left of the browser window, but will not get any popup notifications.

Lud, as far as the actual cause of the bug, the browser is trying to load these two Javascript files:

<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_global.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_menu.js"></script>

Since the page is under the /photopost folder, the browser tries to load /photopost/clientscript/vbulletin_global.js and /photopost/clientscript/vbulletin_menu.js. The problem is these two files are actually located under the /forums/clientscript folder. One way to fix the issue would be to change the two lines above to something like this:

<script type="text/javascript" src="/forums/clientscript/vbulletin_global.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="/forums/clientscript/vbulletin_menu.js"></script>

 

[Yellow Rose]

Andy - Huh? When you post a reply it gives you a "thanks for posting".....

Yes.

.....page that automatically redirects you to the thread you just replied to.

Yes.

If you then click the back arrow it takes you back to the redirect page, which then redirects you again to your reply. This is exactly how the old version worked.

Yes for the current version. No for the previous version…..after I posted a reply and clicked the "back" button, it would return me to the forums listing. This happened both at work and at home where I use Microsoft Internet Explorer for both the current version and the previous version. See below.

Where are you trying to go after you post your reply?

Just back to the screen that showed the thread listings. See above.

 

[KGP]

No for the previous version…..after I posted a reply and clicked the "back" button, it would return me to the forums listing.

Never did for me. This version works the same as the last version for me.

 

[Yellow Rose]

Damn SC.....guess I gotta get a TC.

 

[Lud]

So Andy you're saying that this scenario was possible with the old software:

Page #1: Start from forum listing showing threads in forum
Page #2: click on thread, read thread, get angry at someone's post
Page #3: click on "reply" or "quote" and type your reply on the reply page
Page #4: Submit reply and get "thanks for posting message" that auto-forwards you to...
Page #5: The thread with your new reply in it

Then you clicked the "back" button in IE and it took you back FOUR pages, from #5 back to #1, with one click?

Your mouse must be running high boost too....

 

[Lud]

Lud, as far as the actual cause of the bug, the browser is trying to load these two Javascript files:

Thanks Ojas... The Photopost/vBulletin integration has not gone nearly as well as I expected based on what I had read. I've had to modify TONS of code in vB that the "integration" hack never even talks about and it still needs several more changes in the Photopost code, and I think a few more in the vB code. I guess I should know better by now than to try and do and upgrade and a change at the same time.

 

[Yellow Rose]

So Andy you're saying that this scenario was possible with the old software:

Page #1: Start from forum listing showing threads in forum
Page #2: click on thread, read thread, get angry at someone's post
Page #3: click on "reply" or "quote" and type your reply on the reply page
Page #4: Submit reply and get "thanks for posting message" that auto-forwards you to...
Page #5: The thread with your new reply in it

Then you clicked the "back" button in IE and it took you back FOUR pages, from #5 back to #1, with one click?

Your mouse must be running high boost too....

Yes, to all of the above. PS - nice jab on #2. Except with #5, it would take me back to the forums list, not that particular thread which I posted a reply to.

 

[johntwolff]

John - If you are seeing it on the link to the vbulletin.com forum then there is probably little I can do it about in the near future, as that is the support site for the company that writes this forum software, so it is not a configuration issue on just this site. If you believe there is a problem with the way the vBulletin software is rendering the HTML I will be happy to report the problem in their support forum, but it sounds like you are leaning more toward it being a problem with the current Mac browsers and CSS in general? Or are you saying it is just the CSS code that this software is generating that has a problem? I searched their support forum and did not see others complaining about Mac users having trouble with font sizes, which was somewhat surprising since vBulletin is very popular software. I'm sorry I do not have a better solution for you at this time.

Apparently it is not an NSX Forum configuration issue, but a vBulletin software issue. The previous version of this forum seemed to render font sizes as described by the CSS style sheet; this one apparently doesn't. (Once again, we may be seeing a movement towards a Windows-centric universe. Code for one platform, ignore the rest; pocket the difference. Later, wonder why the whole planet collapsed with the release of one computer virus...)

As to the support forums not yet complaining about this issue, maybe we NSX'ers are the vanguard again Lud, if you would like, make a bug report in the vBulletin support forum and if they contact you, send them my email address. I'll take it from there.

So far the upgraded forum software seems to be a fine improvement, save for this Mac font issue. Keep up the great work.

 

[nsxtasy]

Once again, we may be seeing a movement towards a Windows-centric universe. Code for one platform, ignore the rest; pocket the difference.

As long as one platform is used on over 99 percent of new computers, that may make perfectly good sense.