V10 instead of V8? Why?

isellpower said:
Vancehu said:
After all, no one like to see a small Japanese company that is known to make 4 cylinder passenger cars to dominate the most prestige motor sports over giants such as Ferrari/BMW/Cosworth/Renult/Lambo;
You have some very good points, but 80 Billion a year is not a small company. Honda would buy and sell Ferrari on it's worst day.

Honda cars, trucks, suv's, street bikes and dirt bikes, generators, lawn mowers, push and rider, personal water craft, ATV's, turbine engines and very soon small jets. Don't forget Honda Finance Company. They are far from the small guy getting over on the big guy. They are the big guy dominating the smaller guys. If they wish the next NSX to be number one it will be. They can also pick by how much they want to beat the competition by and it will happen. A V10 Honda will make any car enthusiasts heart skip a beat.

I know my posts has been long and some time hard to read, so I'll explain a little bit about why I said that. In 1985, when NSX project started, Honda only had 3 cars in the world wide market: Civic, Accord, and Prelude, and they were a tiny comparing to Toyota, Nissan, GM, MB, BMW, Renult, Fiat, etc. They did the impossible and beat the shit out of Ferrari, BMW, renault, Porsche, etc. in the world of F1. So yeah, it just a little piece of auto history most young people don't realize. They also raced F1 in the 60's before they produced four wheel cars. It was a learning experience Soichiro Honda wanted his young engineers to have before manufacturing cars. In fact, they won some races without any production car builting experience.

I do share the same enthusiasm as most NSX owners and I can't wait to see the new car, in fact, I'm saving my moola for one already.
 
I was reading something the other day
They were testing a car out saying that for cornering a V12 sped up fast but was a bit of a pig to corner. The V8 was good but was a little slower coming out, so they went for a V10.
In saying that though thats like choosin a 6cyl because of the same reasons for the 4cyl and 8cyl.
Just something i read I think in Autosalon in Aus or on the net???
 
goldNSX said:
Maybe the Z8 was too, but as I remember the Z3 was also in a Bond-movie like the M5. As you can see the influence of BMW's marketing on MY perception: BMW = Bond. :D:D:D.
Could you imagine James Bond in a S2000 or an NSX? I would hate him for that! :tongue: :D
A last evil kick in the Bond-movie-a**: In the late nineties the Bond movies lost their profile they had with Sean Connery and became nothing more than average action-movies with too much special effects, even more sex scenes and ridiculous product placements (BMW). :D:D:D
The Z3 1.9L I-4 (138hp) was the first BMW Bond car (eww).

Then it was the 750iL and a BMW Motorcycle.

Then it was the Z8.

The M5 was never a Bond car.
 
Vancehu said:
By the way, you started to sound more like a bully now than before - by using lots of profanity; what's going on?

you still haven't answer my question on if you will pay $120 plus grand for a NSX replacement - if that car can out perform the F430? If your answer is no, you pretty much just tell the world that you are an emotional buyer, not a logical buyer.

Also, do you still enjoy driving your 1996 NSX?

What profanity - I didn't use any profanity or anything close in these posts. I don't think you can find profanity in any of my posts on NSX Prime - anywhere. You must be thinking about someone else.

Regarding a new NSX at $120k, I don't know - I'd have to see the car first. Styling is obviously important to nearly all buyers - I don't know anyone who buys a car solely based on its spec sheet. But I'd have to answer - "most likely."

Yes, I absolutely enjoy driving my NSX.

I never said that the NSX is/was a bad car. Rather I believe that cars like the F430 have evolved well beyond the NSX to justify a 2x price. The market has spoken - Ferrari sells about 3,300 F430's per year (the 360 also sold about 3,300 units per year) for substantially higher than the $175k (+/-) MSRP while Honda sells about 400 NSX's per year at a discount below the $90k MSRP. Is it because that there are lots of stupid people with too much money out there - or it is because there are lots of educated buyers out there who see and appreciate cars like the F430? Believe what you want but I remain convinced that F430 is substantially better than the NSX is every respect.
 
TC said:
Is it because that there are lots of stupid people with too much money out there - or it is because there are lots of educated buyers out there who see and appreciate cars like the F430?

I'd say a little from column A and a little from column B.
 
goldNSX said:
Maybe the Z8 was too, but as I remember the Z3 was also in a Bond-movie like the M5. As you can see the influence of BMW's marketing on MY perception: BMW = Bond. :D:D:D.
Could you imagine James Bond in a S2000 or an NSX? I would hate him for that! :tongue: :D
A last evil kick in the Bond-movie-a**: In the late nineties the Bond movies lost their profile they had with Sean Connery and became nothing more than average action-movies with too much special effects, even more sex scenes and ridiculous product placements (BMW). :D:D:D

I guess you hate Bond then? Here he is checking out a stealth NSX. :D
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...and i would agree with your assessment of the last couple of Bond films. Although "Tomorrow Never Dies" was the best Brosnan Bond film. The recipe was perfect -- great opener, bike chase with Michelle Yeoh, backseat car park chase, Teri Hatcher dies early (how often does something as good as this happen in a film?), and Michelle Yeoh can kick my butt anywhere, anytime.... :D :D :D



...and now back to the topic. V10 is better than V8 because it's bigger. :p
 
TC said:
Rather I believe that cars like the F430 have evolved well beyond the NSX to justify a 2x price...I remain convinced that F430 is substantially better than the NSX is every respect.

TC, I enjoyed my NSX for almost 5 years now, but I sadly (as a Honda fan), I totally agree with you.
 
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