TL Tranny recall?

[Andrie Hartanto]

Thank god I bought a TL 6spd!!! Because of the issues I have heard about I wouldn't ever have bought a TL if the manual wasn't offered.
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Why do you think the weak tranny o nly applies to auto? The comment made by Honda engineer was from the 25 hrs enduro, when they were racing their 6-speed TL.

 

[White92]

Thank god I bought a TL 6spd!!! Because of the issues I have heard about I wouldn't ever have bought a TL if the manual wasn't offered.

As much as I love Honda. I would recommend that people looking to buying a TL with an automatic should learn how to drive a stick. If they really want an automatic for commuting or some other reason then they should look at another car.

I hope the new RL has no issues!!

By the way, how is the 6 speed in stop and go traffic? I've heard that it's kind of a pain because of the torque, but I'm thinking that's more from people who can't really drive a stick.

 

[White92]

Thank god I bought a TL 6spd!!! Because of the issues I have heard about I wouldn't ever have bought a TL if the manual wasn't offered.
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Why do you think the weak tranny o nly applies to auto? The comment made by Honda engineer was from the 25 hrs enduro, when they were racing their 6-speed TL.

I'm guessing it's because auto trannies have alot more parts to fail. Manual trannies for the most part are a pretty simple design. Think about it. Auto trannies have so many extra parts and the only purpose is to eliminate using your foot on the clutch and moving your hand in a front and back motion on the shift lever.

 

[hlweyl]

The Honda manual trans vs Honda auto trans = no comparison

 

[brahtw8]

By the way, how is the 6 speed in stop and go traffic? I've heard that it's kind of a pain because of the torque, but I'm thinking that's more from people who can't really drive a stick.

There was a pre-production defect in early 6MTs. My 2004 6MT was replaced prior to delivery to replace a defective gear in 1st that did not fully engage. The problem manifested itself by the trans popping out of 1st gear. Apparently Honda was aware of the problem and had a protocol to test for it, but approx. 5-10 early VIN 2004s got through the net.

As I understand it, the biggest problem with the TL 6MT driveability is the heavy flywheel combined with an electronic throttle.

It is difficult, and in some cases impossible, to engage or disengage the throttle at low RPM, as is typical in the commuting stop and go context, without experiencing an abrubt surge/jerk upon throttle application and to a lesser extent when the throttle is disengaged. With practice it can be reduced, but not completely eliminated.

The TL does allow you to loaf along in 1st gear at idle. Some cars will stall at low RPM in first. Perhaps that is also the result of the heavy flywheel?

 

[White92]

I'm sure the easy fix would be to buy a lighter weight flywheel from Comptech. I beleive they are selling them. Although the downside is the expense of getting it installed. It would only be worth it to me if I was already getting the clutch replaced and paid to have the flywheel done at the same time.

 

[White92]

Speaking of tranny recalls, Honda has just announce that they are recalling 486,000 vehicles for an ignition switch problem. Story here....

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/02/pf/autos/honda_recall.reut/index.htm

It's interesting to note that this does not affect the manual trannys. It's also interesting that my 99 Accord has already been recalled for this very thing 2 years ago!