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Side Talkin' - Nokia N-Gage style!

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http://www.sidetalkin.com

Conrad, is that you doin' double side-talkin' there? :eek: :D

http://money.cnn.com/2003/11/06/commentary/wastler/wastler/

It's Two, Two, Two Flops in One
Merging a cell phone and a videogame console seemed like a pretty good idea. But Nokia's latest product is turning into a head scratcher.
By Matthew Maier, February 2004 Issue, Business 2.0

When Nokia (NOK) launched the N-Gage in October, company executives proclaimed it "the biggest innovation in gaming since the joystick." While the market wasn't exactly screaming for a phone that plays games, there are roughly 131 million gamers in the United States alone, and Nokia boldly predicted that it could sell 6 million of its combo phones during the next 24 months. What's not to like about a Bluetooth-enabled, Web-browsing, MP3-playing cell phone that also happens to double (or quadruple) as a gaming platform?

Plenty, as it turns out: Gamers hate the thing. They complain about its slow frame rates, small screen, and limited -- as in only eight titles at launch -- library of games. "Among the gaming audience, the N-Gage has absolutely no credibility," says Dave Kosak, executive editor at GameSpy, an industry publication. "They don't consider it a viable platform at all." They have remained unimpressed despite a $100 million advertising blitz for the odd-duck device. With another $100 million already sunk into development, the N-Gage is shaping up to be one of 2003's biggest consumer-electronics flops.

Nokia vehemently disputes that characterization. "By combining mobility with gaming, the N-Gage has been as strong a console launch as any the industry has ever seen," says Nada Usina, a Nokia general manager and the self-proclaimed "head chick of N-Gage in the Americas." She says that more than 400,000 units were shipped to Nokia's wireless carriers and retailers in the first month.

Shipped, of course, isn't the same as sold, and retailers as well as analysts say the N-Gage simply isn't selling. Jeff Griffiths, CEO of games retailer Electronics Boutique, went so far as to blame the device for his company's weak earnings. NPD Group, a market research firm, claims that retailers in the United States sold fewer than 10,000 N-Gages in the first month. Nintendo's (NTDOY) Game Boy Advance, by comparison, sold well over 540,000 units during the first week of its introduction in 2001. "The N-Gage's obituary has already been written," crows George Harrison, Nintendo's vice president for marketing.

Of course, it's possible that the game phone simply needs more time to catch on. While camera phones were initially met with consumer skepticism, they have since proved a hit. But Nokia and others sold those units from a position of strength, as phones. It chose to market this all-in-one as a game console, targeting hard-core thumb jockeys, though it knew little about the volatile industry. "Most gaming platforms end up getting smoked," notes Mitch Lasky, CEO of Los Angeles-based Jamdat Mobile, a maker of downloadable games for cell phones. "Like trying to hit a Randy Johnson fastball, it's a whole hell of a lot harder than it looks."

Nokia's first strike was pricing. At $300, the handheld N-Gage cost as much as the Sony PlayStation or Microsoft Xbox and more than many high-end cell phones. Nokia said the N-Gage's extras, such as its FM radio and MP3 player, justified the price. But gamers still saw it as an expensive phone replacement, not a game console. So some retailers dropped the price of the N-Gage by $100 within the first two weeks. And three weeks later, after an avalanche of negative reviews, Nokia dropped it even more by throwing in $100 worth of free games. The price is now effectively on par with that of the latest Game Boy, which, admittedly, is not a phone.

Still, there are more than 500 titles for the Game Boy. So far, only 16 games are available for the N-Gage, including such hoary chestnuts as Tomb Raider and Super Monkey Ball. Despite Nokia's size -- $36 billion in revenue last year -- major game developers like Electronic Arts, THQ, and Eidos simply wouldn't build games until Nokia resorted to writing fat checks in the range of $250,000 to $1 million per title. (The typical industry practice is for the game maker to pay a royalty to the machine maker.)

Nokia promises that the N-Gage will have 80 to 100 titles available by the end of the year. Yet some observers say the damage is already done: "The single biggest thing Nokia did wrong was failing to line up adequate third-party software support," says Michael Pachter, an analyst with Wedbush Morgan Securities. "Content drives the hardware purchase. That's just basic business school knowledge."

The N-Gage developers flunked Design 101 too, critics say. Nokia signed off on a model that requires gamers to remove the back of the device and pull out the battery to swap in a game card. Even some Nokia employees were left scratching their heads by that decision. "We're not really sure how that one got off the drawing board," admits Nokia spokeswoman Laurie Armstrong. Even worse, the device makes gamers -- typically a self-conscious lot -- feel like dorks: To use the phone, they have to hold it sideways against their heads, as if talking into a taco. Users look so ridiculous that some created websites like www.sidetalkin.com, which displays pictures of perplexed people trying to talk into all manner of ungainly hardware, from Roland 808 synthesizers to Atari 2600s.

None of this should have surprised Nokia executives. Long before its launch, the company showed off the device at trade shows. Without fail it became an object of ridicule. "The N-Gage is a fascinating device, but it's also horribly flawed," said a reviewer from GamesIndustry.biz. "There are much better phones and much better handheld game platforms out there." Nokia heard the critics but stayed the course. "At some point you have to say enough is enough," says Tom Nyberg, Nokia's head of product management for N-Gage in the Americas. "If we wanted to get everything just right, it wouldn't have been ready in time for my grandchildren to play with it."

No one thinks the company, sitting on $11 billion in cash, will give up on the category. Sony recently signaled it wants to get into mobile gaming, and at the first sign of success, others are sure to follow. Nokia execs seem prepared for a lengthy battle. "We've spent a long time looking at the space," says Nokia's Usina. "We're here to stay." Perhaps, if they start to listen.
 
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Re: Side Talkin' - Nokia N-Gage style!

PHOEN$X said:
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http://www.sidetalkin.com

Conrad, is that you doin' double side-talkin' there? :eek: :D

You know... before I clicked on that hideous picture, I thought someone snapped a picture of me on my Nokia N-Gage. :eek:

WHEW!

(I don't have that phone anymore by the way... OK yes I do... but I don't use it anymore... OK, yes I do. I use it to charge my Nokia 6600 battery so I'm not down one second!)

So in other words: NO THAT'S NOT ME! :mad: :D

I may be a dork but I'm not THAT big of a dork!
 
Re: Re: Side Talkin' - Nokia N-Gage style!

POWERED by HONDA said:
(I don't have that phone anymore by the way... OK yes I do... but I don't use it anymore... OK, yes I do. I use it to charge my Nokia 6600 battery so I'm not down one second!)

So in other words: NO THAT'S NOT ME! :mad: :D
Hahaha! It's okay Conrad, we understand!
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Re: Re: Side Talkin' - Nokia N-Gage style!

POWERED by HONDA said:
(I don't have that phone anymore by the way... OK yes I do... but I don't use it anymore... OK, yes I do. I use it to charge my Nokia 6600 battery so I'm not down one second!)
Geez, bro'. You get so many phones now, that you don't even know what you have/use anymore!!!
 
Re: Re: Side Talkin' - Nokia N-Gage style!

POWERED by HONDA said:
I may be a dork but I'm not THAT big of a dork!
PBH ~ you left yourself WIDE OPEN!!!!
 
PoohBEAR said:
caugh***cau****hubby can do it for you*** CAugh**

Hubby can get me all the parts I could ever want for an NSX.
Perhaps I should switch over to the 'mommy car' forums now :(
Hubby can have the sports car now, I'll have my own later. I’ve only been driving for 8 years! I’ve got a lot of driving time, and lots of cars to own still.
I'm in no rush, and the Prelude he bought me works just fine for now
;)
 
So. this is where everybody is....Well..Let's make this the
LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEESSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT
thread ever! :D
 
Uh...
Stephen...
(How &) Why did you train "Brown Dog" to pull your socks off on command? :D
(Dont get me wrong "daisydog" hugs on command - all 8.5 Lbs of her! - she also does exactly three laps around the couch when you say MAIL)
 
NSX~Kleine said:
Uh...
Stephen...
(How &) Why did you train "Brown Dog" to pull your socks off on command? :D
(Dont get me wrong "daisydog" hugs on command - all 8.5 Lbs of her! - she also does exactly three laps around the couch when you say MAIL)

HOW:
I started with a sock in my hand. I would wave it around his mouth like a game then he would tug on the sock until it was out of my hand. I would then give him a treat for doing so. Then I put the sock on my foot leaving a little hanging off so he could get a good hold on it. Now he takes them off completely with no help. At first he was tugging and I went through a lot of socks before I was able to teach him how to pull in one easy motion without ripping the end of the sock off.

WHY:
No good answer here. I guess I was bored that day.

He is an old man now. I wonder if I could teach him some new tricks. :D like running around the couch.

My pal has a Dalmatian that will run and slide under the bed on the command "under the bed". One day my pal was painting his bedroom and had his mattress in the living room directly on the floor. His wife says "where's the broom" and from the step ladder he yells "under the bed". I thought the dog was going to knock him self out he hit the bed so hard. Poor dog.
 
hmmm, enjoy my friends...
Holy hell, i was expecting an actual reefer being smoked, not a smokin' reefer, made my day. Ta!

That bush pic with the 'dis-n-gage', looks like he's trying to shave with it and wondering why it's not working. Then again he always has the stunned mullet look.:confused:
 
steveny said:
I thought the dog was going to knock him self out he hit the bed so hard. Poor dog.

LMAO!!!

DaisyDog taught me a lot of tricks. I taught her a few too.
I know when she wants to go out, wants her tummy rubbed, wants me to carry her (she doesnt like concrete), wants food, wants on my lap.
I taught her to get OFF my lap, off the couch, off the bed, no more food, and when she better run for the next patch of grass cause I'm not going to carry her this time.
:D
 
Was it just me or did anybody else have trouble loging on to Prime? Past few days I couldn't log on to this site. Did anybody else experience this?:confused:
 
NSX~Kleine said:
LMAO!!!

DaisyDog taught me a lot of tricks. I taught her a few too.
I know when she wants to go out, wants her tummy rubbed, wants me to carry her (she doesnt like concrete), wants food, wants on my lap.
I taught her to get OFF my lap, off the couch, off the bed, no more food, and when she better run for the next patch of grass cause I'm not going to carry her this time.
:D

DaisyDog sounds like a very smart dog.

I am in the process of teaching my lab to ring the dog bell when she wants to come inside. She is doing it 4 out of 5 times. I'm not sure if she is deliberately hitting the door bell or by chance hitting it while jumping up by the door. There are no scratches on the house so I am guessing she is hitting door bell button knowing I will let her in because of it. I wait by the door to let her in immediately after she rings the bell, there is no window in the door so I can't see what she is up to.
 
Her best trick (and the worst part) is that we learned VERY QUICKLY to not mention the "M" word. I know sign language, so we used that instead.
Guess what DaisyDog knows now~!

The door bell (I mean Dog bell thing is great!) Good job, I love that idea!

I also am proud of her for being able to out certain items.
I'll throw a ball, stick, chew toy, and rawhide all at once, and she'll bring back the one I ask for.
Right up till she gets tired of that game, then she wont fetch ANYTHING, and I have to go pick them all up and put them away.
I told you she has me trained well!

But honestly those are all her tricks, she's going to be 12 in august. I try not to work her too much!
She's like 700 in dog years~! :D
I dont know, but she's gettin up there!
 
Stupid pet tricks

My contribution to this sad thread. (pathetic that I had enough free time to read all of them) I don't know which I laughed harder on, the Phoenix NSX Sponge commercial or the dog sliding under the bed.

So my pet story.

I was sitting at a budddies house one night when his obnoxious Great Dane comes in and starts drooling on me. I ask my friend if he's good for anything else. He says "Oh yea, watch this". He looks at the dog and says "THOR, FETCH, BEER!". Sure enough the dog goes to the fridge, pulls a old neck tie my buddy had attached to it, and brings him back a Coors light, (yeah I know he said beer), prepunched, dripping, (those canine teeth are hell on aluminum), ready for shot gunning if your so inclined. I was impressed. My buddy says he can't teach him to close the door and he doesn't do bottles. Said it took him almost a year to get this far. He is using coors light because for some reason the dog can recognise the cans better. Wants to take him on Letterman, but knows he wouldn't preform in front of an audience. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Stupid pet tricks

NSXF1 said:
"THOR, FETCH, BEER!". Sure enough the dog goes to the fridge, pulls a old neck tie my buddy had attached to it, and brings him back a Coors light, (yeah I know he said beer), prepunched, dripping, (those canine teeth are hell on aluminum), ready for shot gunning if your so inclined.

If you ask me the dog drool could only make it better! :D
Coors! :rolleyes: Ugh!
 
Re: Re: Stupid pet tricks

NSX~Kleine said:
If you ask me the dog drool could only make it better! :D
Coors! :rolleyes: Ugh!

Yep. too much Coors and the next day it feels like you got a silver bullet to the head.
 
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