I've really been into the "seat" thing for a long time now. For over a year I have looked at various seats to replace my NSX seat with a more proper track/street seat without giving up much comfort.
I am lucky enough that I have a few places nearby where I have been able to try Recaro, Takata, Cobra, RaceTech, MOMO, OMP, and various others. I have also been able to sit in genuine type R seats in ShaylorD's car, and a set of Downforce Replicas in Midnight Raven's. For those wondering, they are identical... but the foam in the genuine R is superior and more comfortable. The Downforce is close.. but not quite the same.
These two have been the most "comfrotable" seats I have sat in with the exception of one. And I have found most of the others, from the $3500 dry carbon seats to the $800 basic OMP's, have a very similar design, and a similar fit. It is just that some are a bit bigger, and some are a bit smaller in various spots. But all the buckets sit you rather upright, and sort of "squeeze" your body into place. Is that comfortable? not really. The OEM seat is VASTLY more comfortable than any of them, but it lacks support.
So there is only one seat that I have sat it that is uniquely different, and holds your body completely differently. This seat sort of cradles your whole body like a glove. With zero cushioning, it is supremely comfortable. Not just on my body, but on several of my friends that tried it. There are no pressure points, nothing that digs into one area of your body. Like a glove, or a really big hand, it coddles you into place. One amazing thing was everytime I leaned forward, and then leaned back, you could actually hear air escape from around my body. Literally, the seat is that form fitting without squeezing me anywhere. That seat is made by a British company called Tillett, they have been making seats for the Caterham for years and for Karts for many many years. Their carbon work is exquisite, so much so that they are now OEM'ing other carbon parts for manufacturers. They've spawned some copies, but they are not the same.
Recently Tillett expanded the car line with some incredibly strong seats that passed some brutal FIA testing with not even a scratch. Those models are the B6F, and the B7. The seats are all dual skin. The inner mold and outer mold are different. This is very unique. The B7 is about 7 pounds. It is the lightest FIA seat on the market. The B6F is around 16 pounds. Same strength, just heavier and less expensive (about $1500 a seat compared to about $3000 a seat without rails).
I have been sort of smitten with these seats. The only thing I thought they were missing was shoulder support. On speaking with Steve Tillett, who is extremely knowledgable, he told me that shoulder support is actually somewhat of a poor method for securing the body. He explained that shoulders need freedom for movement and comfort. And that real support comes from the Torso. Things they have learned over the years making Kart seats.
The reason I am posting this is I wanted to get some thoughts and feedback. I spoke to Steve about a group buy but I am not sure how many would be interested. The seats are narrow outside, but fit many many different people. The bottom of the shell has a "bowl" that that cradles you and should allow for the lowest possible fitment in the NSX. The fact that this seat is comfortable without cushions (I Know this is hard to imagine, but trust me it just is like nothing you've felt) allows the absolute maximum level of headroom in an NSX, great for tall drivers and much safer for anyone else (roof is very likely to be the first point of impact in an accident in the NSX).
If you have any opinions or questions, that is the purpose of this post.
I am lucky enough that I have a few places nearby where I have been able to try Recaro, Takata, Cobra, RaceTech, MOMO, OMP, and various others. I have also been able to sit in genuine type R seats in ShaylorD's car, and a set of Downforce Replicas in Midnight Raven's. For those wondering, they are identical... but the foam in the genuine R is superior and more comfortable. The Downforce is close.. but not quite the same.
These two have been the most "comfrotable" seats I have sat in with the exception of one. And I have found most of the others, from the $3500 dry carbon seats to the $800 basic OMP's, have a very similar design, and a similar fit. It is just that some are a bit bigger, and some are a bit smaller in various spots. But all the buckets sit you rather upright, and sort of "squeeze" your body into place. Is that comfortable? not really. The OEM seat is VASTLY more comfortable than any of them, but it lacks support.
So there is only one seat that I have sat it that is uniquely different, and holds your body completely differently. This seat sort of cradles your whole body like a glove. With zero cushioning, it is supremely comfortable. Not just on my body, but on several of my friends that tried it. There are no pressure points, nothing that digs into one area of your body. Like a glove, or a really big hand, it coddles you into place. One amazing thing was everytime I leaned forward, and then leaned back, you could actually hear air escape from around my body. Literally, the seat is that form fitting without squeezing me anywhere. That seat is made by a British company called Tillett, they have been making seats for the Caterham for years and for Karts for many many years. Their carbon work is exquisite, so much so that they are now OEM'ing other carbon parts for manufacturers. They've spawned some copies, but they are not the same.
Recently Tillett expanded the car line with some incredibly strong seats that passed some brutal FIA testing with not even a scratch. Those models are the B6F, and the B7. The seats are all dual skin. The inner mold and outer mold are different. This is very unique. The B7 is about 7 pounds. It is the lightest FIA seat on the market. The B6F is around 16 pounds. Same strength, just heavier and less expensive (about $1500 a seat compared to about $3000 a seat without rails).
I have been sort of smitten with these seats. The only thing I thought they were missing was shoulder support. On speaking with Steve Tillett, who is extremely knowledgable, he told me that shoulder support is actually somewhat of a poor method for securing the body. He explained that shoulders need freedom for movement and comfort. And that real support comes from the Torso. Things they have learned over the years making Kart seats.
The reason I am posting this is I wanted to get some thoughts and feedback. I spoke to Steve about a group buy but I am not sure how many would be interested. The seats are narrow outside, but fit many many different people. The bottom of the shell has a "bowl" that that cradles you and should allow for the lowest possible fitment in the NSX. The fact that this seat is comfortable without cushions (I Know this is hard to imagine, but trust me it just is like nothing you've felt) allows the absolute maximum level of headroom in an NSX, great for tall drivers and much safer for anyone else (roof is very likely to be the first point of impact in an accident in the NSX).
If you have any opinions or questions, that is the purpose of this post.
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