The Mythical $25k NSX.

[nastinupe1]

Thank you for your future NSX price predictions, stranger. We welcome all opinions on NSX Prime.

Although it is *possible* that you have the finances to purchase a car costing more than $45k, your dogged determination to ignore every bit of factual data and prudent advice leads me to believe that your budget is as narrow as your intellect.

Happy Motoring!

My prediction is just that, a prediction. Some one starts a thead about NSX prices and everyone gets all upset because I come on and say something that you don't want to hear. That's like the kid who owns the ball and if someone doesn't play by their rules, they want to take the ball home. I guess this forum is basically just about preaching to the chior. It's not about real opinions and true debates. Everything must be pro NSX or you can't afford the car. I guess if I would have said that the NSX should never drop below $35k then I would all of a sudden be an informed individual who probably could afford the car.

As far as my budget is concerned. It's none of your business. This is not a pissing contest. I'm on this forum to discuss cars, not worry about what people can and can not afford. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be on this particular forum if I was dreaming. If I'm going to dream and wish, I'd be on some Ferrari forum. Why would I dream about a slightly above average priced sports car? But that shows how pompus and ignorant some people can be. Don't think that you're special because you're driving an NSX. It's not that deep. There are a lot of cars that I can't afford, but trust me, the NSX is not one of them.

Even if I couldn't afford an NSX, what difference would it make? Does that change the validity of my opinion?

I knew that guys driving higher end sports cars were full of themselves, but I never thought that it would be taken this far. My God, it's an NSX for Christ sake. Reading some of your remarks, you'd think that you're reading an Enzo forum.

If I do purchase an NSX, I definately won't be on here. I have no desire to rub shoulders with a bunch of pompus pricks who talk a bunch of shit on the internet, knowing damn well that they wouldn't say half the shit that they wrote on here to my face.

I never insulted anyone, I only came on here to discuss the NSX. Why any mature individual would take my words and justify calling me a broke ass mofo is beyond me.

To Ron98: It's funny to me that you'd respond to my response but not to the original offender. If you were that concerned about keeping NSXprime such a respectful place, then your concerns would have been expressed then.

 

[WillErickson]

I'm not knocking the car. I'm just saying that I don't think that it's worth over $45k in today's market.

I don't think that a lot of cars are worth that much in today's market.

I wouldn't buy a Ferrari 355 for $75,000, but hey... that's what people are asking for them

I wouldn't buy a Testarossa for $100,000, but that's what people are asking.

I wouldn't buy some 1960's hotrod for $200,000.

It's not just the NSX, there are a lot of cars that I believe are over priced and over valued.

Heck, I think that people asking $30k for a 1990 Viper are out of their minds as well.

Viper production didn't begin until model year 1992.

 

[RON98]

To Ron98: It's funny to me that you'd respond to my response but not to the original offender. If you were that concerned about keeping NSXprime such a respectful place, then your concerns would have been expressed then.

didnt have an issue with the original thead starter because 25K & under nsx is a valid topic. since the housing bubble popping, supercharged, pre/post 2003 low milage and high milage 130K+ are coming out of the wood works and are 2-3 pages long on cars.com. Never seen it this bad.

No one has an issue if you said thats down the line in 10-15 years a 05 will be worth 45k. probably so. nothing wrong with that.

However, you phrased in your previous posts, that the 05+ are only worth 45k. that's something most owners have an issue with since clearly your opinion is detached from reality since the currently market price is 60-70+K.

The tone in your post was that you are smarter and know something the rest of us dont and those who paid a fair price for their 05 + are idiots. If you had landed a mint 05 nsx for 45K, ok, you got something on me. However you dont own an nsx let alone a 05.

obiviously, there are always exceptions to the rule. salvage title, accidents, engine problems etc will result in a lower selling price but that is not the norm.

if you can score a 05 for 45k. im happy for you. its always good to get a great deal. just dont tell us contrary to our observation that the 05 is worth 45k. :wink: Also the large majority of the owners here are mature, accomplished and have a burning passion for the NSX. Im sure no one's mom is a "cheap whore" and implying so will definitly get strong responses. Just remember, what pass as cool on most of the other forums where owners are less mature wont do so well here. Hopefully the next post from you is positive, toned down with out the racer boy attitude, sweeping generalizations and cussing.

we, including myself would LOVE to have you as a productive member of the nsxprime community! :smile: i like nothing more than shooting the breeze, helping when and where i can. Often i have been helped by the expereince and knowledge of other members! Thats why this community is so great.

if you ever need any help or have questions, i would love to help, please feel free to call, pm, email

I hope you can find the right NSX soon since life is too short.

No hard feelings ?

Warmest regards and happy motoring.

Rob

 

[Dtrigg]

My prediction is just that, a prediction. Some one starts a thead about NSX prices and everyone gets all upset because I come on and say something that you don't want to hear. That's like the kid who owns the ball and if someone doesn't play by their rules, they want to take the ball home. I guess this forum is basically just about preaching to the chior. It's not about real opinions and true debates. Everything must be pro NSX or you can't afford the car. I guess if I would have said that the NSX should never drop below $35k then I would all of a sudden be an informed individual who probably could afford the car.

As far as my budget is concerned. It's none of your business. This is not a pissing contest. I'm on this forum to discuss cars, not worry about what people can and can not afford. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be on this particular forum if I was dreaming. If I'm going to dream and wish, I'd be on some Ferrari forum. Why would I dream about a slightly above average priced sports car? But that shows how pompus and ignorant some people can be. Don't think that you're special because you're driving an NSX. It's not that deep. There are a lot of cars that I can't afford, but trust me, the NSX is not one of them.

Even if I couldn't afford an NSX, what difference would it make? Does that change the validity of my opinion?

I knew that guys driving higher end sports cars were full of themselves, but I never thought that it would be taken this far. My God, it's an NSX for Christ sake. Reading some of your remarks, you'd think that you're reading an Enzo forum.

If I do purchase an NSX, I definately won't be on here. I have no desire to rub shoulders with a bunch of pompus pricks who talk a bunch of shit on the internet, knowing damn well that they wouldn't say half the shit that they wrote on here to my face.

I never insulted anyone, I only came on here to discuss the NSX. Why any mature individual would take my words and justify calling me a broke ass mofo is beyond me.

To Ron98: It's funny to me that you'd respond to my response but not to the original offender. If you were that concerned about keeping NSXprime such a respectful place, then your concerns would have been expressed then.

DING, DING, DING. Round three.

 

[brahtw8]

I never insulted anyone, I only came on here to discuss the NSX. Why any mature individual would take my words and justify calling me a broke ass mofo is beyond me.

You have gone out of your way to take shots at the NSX.

While not solely to blame, you have added plenty of fuel to the fire.

 

[Ski_Banker]

My favorite M&A quote:

err. nevermind. best of luck "mate" -- I'll buy ya a beer at NSXPO 2008 when you show up in an 02+!

 

[mickeylex]

The empty can rattles the most.

 

[Eclipsed]

 

[Patricio]

Here you go..... so you can stop running your mouth, here is a screen print of every 05 NSX sold at auction in the country since 06/06

thats in 2 years across 100 dealer auctions nationwide.
National Sale History from Mannheim Auto auction that I have access to.

none under 65k
And no there is not a 20k gap between 02's and 05's
and auction vehicles are worth less on average than privately owned with records
Auction vehicles go for 10% less than what the dealers mark them up for so that shows an average 70k value for a clean car.

Are there exceptions? yes. good luck.
can I get one from the auction? NO. unless you pay me 10%

First image shows 05's
second image shows 99's cheapest at 44k that means $49k street value on average.

This is real data you can not say anything on earth that disproves these FACTS. This is auction sales HISTORY not estimated crap.

Now shut up and cough up what the car is worth. Cause your making a fool of yourself

There may be a deal or two out there right now only because of economic situations where people NEED to unload their toys but that does not correspond to true market value. Don't expect to find those deals a year or two from now.

<img src="http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/500/NSX-Auction-prices.jpg" />

<img src="http://www.nsxprime.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Nsx-prices-99.jpg" />

There are a couple 98's in prime market place that are steals right now in the mid 40's you should jump on them. How much of a better deal do you think you'll find?

 

[Power_Seller]

nasti,

You might want to watch ebay more than a few months before you consider yourself qualified to throw out "trend analysis" from the drivers seat of your S2000 to everyone. BTW...you missed the price of the TESTAROSSA by over 50%. Those go for as little as 47000.00. After seeing that "miss" I knew you were full of it.

Do you have any experience selling things to people or even buying things of any substantial value? I am not talking about a guy in a cheap suit who sold you your last ride either. I mean really interacting with a person...negotiating and discussing the sale...nderstanding the product, market and both the buyer and seller's motivations?? once you get a few thousand of these transactions under your belt, come back and chat with us about the NSX "market". Especially for a car you don't even own.

Also you talk about it being a "Honda" and therefore in the same league as your S2000. not even close pal. A machine stamped out your car in less than a day. A craftsman built ours by hand attending to every detail.

You are definitely in the wrong forum. there is a "rat-car-muffler-tuner-forum" out there somewhere missing you....BYE BYE

 

[kiisaka]

Nasti,

In a free market economy, the fair market value of goods is determined not by arm-chair speculators, but by those engaging in transactions.

If you think that the intrinsic value of a 2005 NSX is $45k, while the market value is in the $60k range, you should buy puts or sell short. :biggrin:

 

[otoro]

As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be on this particular forum if I was dreaming. If I'm going to dream and wish, I'd be on some Ferrari forum. Why would I dream about a slightly above average priced sports car? But that shows how pompus and ignorant some people can be. Don't think that you're special because you're driving an NSX. It's not that deep. There are a lot of cars that I can't afford, but trust me, the NSX is not one of them.

Print this and store it away somewhere. Ten years later, you'll look back and understand how childish you were.

And stop calling us pompOus pricks. Should really learn how to spell the word before you use it.

 

[Jetpilot3]

My prediction is just that, a prediction. Some one starts a thead about NSX prices and everyone gets all upset because I come on and say something that you don't want to hear. That's like the kid who owns the ball and if someone doesn't play by their rules, they want to take the ball home. I guess this forum is basically just about preaching to the chior. It's not about real opinions and true debates. Everything must be pro NSX or you can't afford the car. I guess if I would have said that the NSX should never drop below $35k then I would all of a sudden be an informed individual who probably could afford the car.

As far as my budget is concerned. It's none of your business. This is not a pissing contest. I'm on this forum to discuss cars, not worry about what people can and can not afford. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be on this particular forum if I was dreaming. If I'm going to dream and wish, I'd be on some Ferrari forum. Why would I dream about a slightly above average priced sports car? But that shows how pompus and ignorant some people can be. Don't think that you're special because you're driving an NSX. It's not that deep. There are a lot of cars that I can't afford, but trust me, the NSX is not one of them.

Even if I couldn't afford an NSX, what difference would it make? Does that change the validity of my opinion?

I knew that guys driving higher end sports cars were full of themselves, but I never thought that it would be taken this far. My God, it's an NSX for Christ sake. Reading some of your remarks, you'd think that you're reading an Enzo forum.

If I do purchase an NSX, I definately won't be on here. I have no desire to rub shoulders with a bunch of pompus pricks who talk a bunch of shit on the internet, knowing damn well that they wouldn't say half the shit that they wrote on here to my face.

I never insulted anyone, I only came on here to discuss the NSX. Why any mature individual would take my words and justify calling me a broke ass mofo is beyond me.

To Ron98: It's funny to me that you'd respond to my response but not to the original offender. If you were that concerned about keeping NSXprime such a respectful place, then your concerns would have been expressed then.

Look your really missing it here kid. I'm 31, gone thru school, and now work and live in the big boy world and I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong. Your opinion of +02 model NSX's being valued at $45K is simply a farce and I will be glad to offer you congrats on picking one up - but that's just it - YOU WON'T! Unless its salvaged, repainted, or contains gremlins and or very high mileage abuse. If it has any of these factors open your pocket book because it will be expensive to maintain/repair.

I've researched the NSX market for the past 2 years (prior to housing slump in US and dollar depreciation) and you are hardly seeing more NSX's for sale. You'd think now is the best time to pick an NSX up yet guess what - hardly any movement is happening on the +02 cars in terms of people dropping their pants to $45K. I'm keeping a close eye on the 2002+ models as I want one to add to my 1991 pristine, mint condition, berlina black that I paid just under 29K for back in June.

I'm terribly sorry to say this but not all NSX owners are pompous, rude, etc. We are telling you as it is - plain and simple and your refusing to say "well maybe I'm wrong". Your perogative.

 

[nastinupe1]

Round Three was actually cool.

Ok... maybe I'm a little wrong about the prices. And I apologize about coming off like a know-it-all. I know that I don't know everything about the NSX. I will leave it at that.

 

[docjohn]

Congratulations,,everyone won round 3!!:biggrin:

 

[BladesNSX]

I've researched the NSX market for the past 2 years (prior to housing slump in US and dollar depreciation) and you are hardly seeing more NSX's for sale. You'd think now is the best time to pick an NSX up yet guess what - hardly any movement is happening on the +02 cars in terms of people dropping their pants to $45K. I'm keeping a close eye on the 2002+ models as I want one to add to my 1991 pristine, mint condition, berlina black that I paid just under 29K for back in June.

What is the stall for the sales of 02+ NSXs? Is it just the fragile market conditions or higher interest rates? I will be in the market for a 2002+ NSX in a year or two, so I'm not stressing it right now. I'm just curious. I saw a beautiful Berlina Black '98 in the MarketPlace and started doing the numbers until I decided to wait for a later model 02+.

Can anyone predict what the later models might be going for a couple years from now? I suspect there will be little to no price drop:redface:

 

[RON98]

Round Three was actually cool.

Ok... maybe I'm a little wrong about the prices. And I apologize about coming off like a know-it-all. I know that I don't know everything about the NSX. I will leave it at that.

Hey Nast

It takes a big person to say they are mistaken.

Props on that.

We look foward to having some real insightful discussion with you in the future.

Lots to learn about the nsx and i can say hands down that prime is the best online fourm community i have been a part of.
Its not just the NSX that makes ownership so extraordinary, its also the owners that have the class and insight to see that power is not everything.

Warm regards, happy motoring and welcome to prime.

Rob :smile:

 

[BladesNSX]

Hey Nast

It takes a big person to say they are mistaken.

Props on that.

We look foward to having some real insightful discussion with you in the future.

Lots to learn about the nsx and i can say hands down that prime is the best online fourm community i have been a part of.
Its not just the NSX that makes ownership so extraordinary, its also the owners that have the class and insight to see that power is not everything.

Warm regards, happy motoring and welcome to prime.

Rob :smile:

Rob,

You make me proud to be a fellow NSX owner. For a young guy, you are certainly wise beyond your years.

 

[damthatbeaver]

Hey Nastinupe1...I own a beautiful Berlina Black on Black 91 NSX - with Phat mods...:biggrin:...and it just rocks brother!! I know that you do not own an NSX right now - but do consider purchasing a 91...I have owned corvettes, been in Vipers and Ferraris...and I can tell you that the NSX "is the ride". I do love Ferraris and Lamborghinis - but for the price, nothing compares to a 91 NSX!! Seriously brother, all the other cars that you have discussed have great power - but they are generic and their looks are common (inside and out). The NSX has that Formula 1 cabin look and feel - and no, I do not drive her everyday! In fact, it is like opening a present every time I take her out...you cannot go wrong with a 91 - just think...you can purchase a 91 and still have money left over for all the other things that you need to do with your life!!

Dam

 

[Ski_Banker]

Hey Nast

It takes a big person to say they are mistaken.

Props on that.

We look foward to having some real insightful discussion with you in the future.

Lots to learn about the nsx and i can say hands down that prime is the best online fourm community i have been a part of.
Its not just the NSX that makes ownership so extraordinary, its also the owners that have the class and insight to see that power is not everything.

Warm regards, happy motoring and welcome to prime.

Rob :smile:

100% echo that. And FWIW, NSX Owners are always (by nature) independent thinkers, so Nastinupe you should fit right in. :smile:

what the hell is Nastinupe anyway?

 

[nastinupe1]

Not meaning to hijack the thread or anything, but I took a look at this yellow/ black 2003 NSX in ATL not too long ago. It has a great All in one hook up with navi, ipod, XM, bluetooth, etc. The owner's name is Anish. Does anyone know him or this car?

Since everyone seems to know the history of each NSX like it's a school girls reputation, I'm hoping not to hear anything negative about this car.

He was asking $61,000, but just dropped the price this week to $57,500 obo. The car only has 28,000 miles on it.

What do you think?

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detai...ional&paId=249779330&recnum=2&leadExists=true

 

[RON98]

oops my carfax expired :tongue:

car looks good from the outside. I would get request the owner take a few pictures of the front bay and engine compartment and you should definitely fork out the 24$ and get a carfax on the car.

go to the Texas regional boards and see if someone is close by, maybe they can take a look for you if you ask nicely.:smile:

happy motoring

rob:smile:

 

[BladesNSX]

Not meaning to hijack the thread or anything, but I took a look at this yellow/ black 2003 NSX in ATL not too long ago. It has a great All in one hook up with navi, ipod, XM, bluetooth, etc. The owner's name is Anish. Does anyone know him or this car?

Since everyone seems to know the history of each NSX like it's a school girls reputation, I'm hoping not to hear anything negative about this car.

He was asking $61,000, but just dropped the price this week to $57,500 obo. The car only has 28,000 miles on it.

What do you think?

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detai...ional&paId=249779330&recnum=2&leadExists=true

Nasti that car looks sweet

Post up in the South East forum to see if a fellow NSXer in that area wouldn't mind looking at the car. I have mixed feelings on Yellow, but if you don't jump on that one, I think I just might

Good find:biggrin:

 

[nastinupe1]

oops my carfax expired :tongue:

car looks good from the outside. I would get request the owner take a few pictures of the front bay and engine compartment and you should definitely fork out the 24$ and get a carfax on the car.

go to the Texas regional boards and see if someone is close by, maybe they can take a look for you if you ask nicely.:smile:

happy motoring

rob:smile:

This car is in Atlanta. I have already taken a look at it. The owner lives about 6 miles away from me. It looked really clean on the inside and outside. They have a carfax link on the website page, however, I would do another one just to make sure.

I just wanted to see if anybody knew if this guy goes street racing or has connections to a body shop and does work on the car and doesn't report accidents or something.

I may pull the trigger this week. But I drove by the Porsche dealership today on my way home and they had this black on black Cayman S with Navi and 19's that was lowered that looked really nice. It's a 2007 and has 5000 miles. They are asking $58,000 for it. http://hennessy.porschedealer.com/preowned_cars/info.php?inventoryid=377177

I know that this is an NSX forum, but what do you guys think about the Cayman S? It has 295 hp and handles really well. The two cars seem rather equal on paper. I have driven both cars, but not hard... you know, test drive type driving. You can't really tell what you got until you drive it like you stole it.

 

[Mirroredshades]

I know that this is an NSX forum, but what do you guys think about the Cayman S? It has 295 hp and handles really well. The two cars seem rather equal on paper. I have driven both cars, but not hard... you know, test drive type driving. You can't really tell what you got until you drive it like you stole it.

I think you haven't made a relevent post in this thread topic yet, why start now. There is a "new thread" option at the top right of the page. Why don't you try it?