Supercharged Automatic NSX

[nsx_parts]

I know this topic will bring some heat, but I have been asked to bring this up.

I have been asked to help sell a 93 CTSC with an automatic transmission for a friend. I have sold a car for him via the internet prior, see <a href="http://www.jagxkr.com">www.jagxkr.com</a>. The car sold quickly, and the transaction was flawless. These cars belong to a retired dentist who did well with real estate. He is big into HP and FI, but prefers automatics. He also has a 91 300zx/HKS stage 5 TT/Automatic. All of his cars have HUGE audio systems as well. See <a href="http://www.psycho-acoustics.com/nsx1.html">http://www.psycho-acoustics.com/nsx1.html</a>.

This NSX has about 11k miles on it. I have suggested that he remove the CTSC from the car and sell it. The SC has about 5k on it.

My challenge here is to figure out what to tell him. Should he remove it and sell them seperate, or is the car going to bring more money with the SC installed. He paid a lot for the install!

BTW: No problems with the transmission so far, but the car is driven pretty lightly considering the driver is 80+ years old. I have driven the car and it is fun, but I quickly missed my 6-speed, and wanted the manual tranny.

 

[RyRy210]

Well, the CTSC will attract some buyers, and will also deter others. Mods can only add value to the car if that mod is important to the potential buyer of the car. With that said, I personally would rather have a bone stock car than a car that has been modified (especially with mods that cannot be reversed). I'm honestly not too fond of the audio enhancements on your friend's car.

I personally would sell the CTSC separately.

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2001 NSX-T
- Bilstein Shocks
- '02 OEM Wheels

 

[RACERnsX]

Tough to answer this one. I think most owners of modded NSX's will tell you that they typically don't get anywhere near what they spend on mods when selling their car. So, from that perspective, I would normally suggest he remove the CTSC and sell it separately. However, there have been a few highly publicized threads lately (on this forum) about horror stories when purchasing "used" FI units that I'm not sure he's not better off just selling the car with it on. My .02

[This message has been edited by RACERnsX (edited 14 February 2003).]

 

[nsx_parts]

I read the SC horror story. What a mess! I will keep that in mind and let him know people may be shying away from used FI parts. One thing we could offer is an inspection / drive in the car w/ the SC installed prior to the sale.

Was JSecrest ever taken care of? I remember seeing the burned SC on Ebay. I bid too. Good thing I did not win it.

About the system... More than I would ever do, but the install has won a few trophies from IASCA competitions and sounds great. Did you see the tweeter and door panel? Very clean.

 

[matteni]

Did he keep all the original parts? That will answer your question right there.

Also - I would estimate that the used super is worth around $5k based on previous sales of used supers. By the time you take it off - your net revenue will be around $4k. Can you get $4k over a stock NSX with the same condition/miles? Should be pretty close and probably too close to deal with it. Only problem will be - you are allready looking at a small market that can afford an NSX and are looking for an automatic. When you factor in forced induction - it becomes a very small market indeed and you may have to be prepared to wait a while to get a fair price.

Good luck and if you are looking to sell - let me know as I may be interested ([email protected]).

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Nick M

91' Red/Black with Many Mods
99' Honda Odyssey with Many Kids

 

[wilsonp]

Too bad it's not black!

 

[nsxtasy]

Originally posted by matteni:
Can you get $4k over a stock NSX with the same condition/miles?

Probably not. See below.

Originally posted by matteni:
Only problem will be - you are allready looking at a small market that can afford an NSX and are looking for an automatic. When you factor in forced induction - it becomes a very small market indeed and you may have to be prepared to wait a while to get a fair price.

I agree. In fact, I would go a step further. The chances of finding someone who wants an automatic with a supercharger are probably pretty slim. Not only are the folks who want the power add-on a minority of potential buyers, but among those who do, virtually all would prefer a manual transmission. Furthermore, with the advice we've seen here on NSXprime that the stock automatic transmission can't handle the added power (which is why the engine in the automatic is detuned to 252 hp), the knowledgeable NSX enthusiasts would be even more reluctant to buy a supercharged automatic.

I would definitely sell the supercharger separately.

 

[nsx_parts]

Ken:

Once again, you are right. In addition to the facts you pointed out the new auto have the old 3.0 furthering the point.

He has all the stock parts. In addition, we get a great rate on labor as all of his cars are maintained by the same tech.

I have recommended to him that we try and sell the car as is for a month, then split it up and sell the two seperately. This will give someone a chance to buy it if there is that SECOND (besides the owner) person that prefers this combo.

I will post the car / specs / price soon.

Thanks for the input.