Sure, there are people with more money than brains. If they want to pay more than MSRP for a used car, then thats fine with me.
The boys at Barrett-Jackson rely on this for a living, and I think they do quite well
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Sure, there are people with more money than brains. If they want to pay more than MSRP for a used car, then thats fine with me.
Once a material object is no longer made its value is purely determined by collector interest and the market.
Lots of people like to make judgements, but I think its silly. I can say that someone who spends $100,000 on a watch has "more money than brains", but I never would. Why? Because the one person I know who did that is worth about $120,000,000. So saying he has no brains would just make me look like an envious loser. To him $100,000 is piss money.
Similarly, while the average person, and ironically the average primer, feels "no rich guy is looking for an NSX", I would argue that nearly *any* hardcore collector is. All it takes is a single Jay Leno who wants to add the historic, yes historic, NSX to his collection and that car is gone. An 04 with 1500 miles isnt "almost the same" as an 03 with 19k miles or whatever.
A true collector will want the *lowest* mile example they can get as *stock* and clean as possible. They wont care about timing belts and water pumps because the thing is going into a museum, effectively.
The same exact kind of thread is happening *right now* on Ferrari chat about an F348 going up on the auction block with 300 miles on it (original) and the same kind of comments are coming out since the auction expects it will sell for 90-125k. People are saying "only an idiot..." "you can buy a F360"... etc.
Why is it so hard to comprehend? If Im a collector with a $100M+ net worth and I want a *specific* model and I want it *virgin* to add to my collection, an extra $50-$100k to aquire one never soiled by a real owner is nothing.
Once a material object is no longer made its value is purely determined by collector interest and the market.
Lots of people like to make judgements, but I think its silly. I can say that someone who spends $100,000 on a watch has "more money than brains", but I never would. Why? Because the one person I know who did that is worth about $120,000,000. So saying he has no brains would just make me look like an envious loser. To him $100,000 is piss money.
Similarly, while the average person, and ironically the average primer, feels "no rich guy is looking for an NSX", I would argue that nearly *any* hardcore collector is. All it takes is a single Jay Leno who wants to add the historic, yes historic, NSX to his collection and that car is gone. An 04 with 1500 miles isnt "almost the same" as an 03 with 19k miles or whatever.
A true collector will want the *lowest* mile example they can get as *stock* and clean as possible. They wont care about timing belts and water pumps because the thing is going into a museum, effectively.
The same exact kind of thread is happening *right now* on Ferrari chat about an F348 going up on the auction block with 300 miles on it (original) and the same kind of comments are coming out since the auction expects it will sell for 90-125k. People are saying "only an idiot..." "you can buy a F360"... etc.
Why is it so hard to comprehend? If Im a collector with a $100M+ net worth and I want a *specific* model and I want it *virgin* to add to my collection, an extra $50-$100k to aquire one never soiled by a real owner is nothing.
Tim have you ever looked under the driver seat? Last time I had my seat out we found 85 cents.....that increased the value right there!!!:tongue:All good points and if I were a rich collector looking for a pristine 05 NSX - I'd be damn interested in one like this or one like the 900+ mile original 91 NSX or maybe both if I happened to be particularly enamored with the NSX. I hope that collectors start doing this and then all our cars will raise in value! I'm all for that!:biggrin:
Tim have you ever looked under the driver seat? Last time I had my seat out we found 85 cents.....that increased the value right there!!!:tongue:
With all this speculative collector talk answer this. Why would a collector choose a 2004? It isn't the last production year. I would think if some wealthy person wants to collect an NSX they would choose... an Alex Zanardi Special Edition.
BTW You owners can rest assured that since I sold my NSX, the value will skyrocket. At least that has been my luck with the stock market anyway. :wink:
Why is it so hard to comprehend? If Im a collector with a $100M+ net worth and I want a *specific* model and I want it *virgin* to add to my collection, an extra $50-$100k to aquire one never soiled by a real owner is nothing.
There maybe a customer out there who has wealth and wants an NSX bad....got to be black with little or no miles. Want's a virgin car. Been looking for months and can't find one. Here comes this car and makes a deal for $85,000 and everyones happy. :smile::smile:
The customer who comes along is like a lottery winning. I've been down this path with a wealthy Danish car collector who bought my Mini Cooper 1071S. He paid top dollar, I'm thankful 'cause it funded my NSX.
In the end, chances of a high sale is very slim, but you never know. Regards....sid
It might be a tad early to be speculating on the collector status of the NSX.
I purchased a Porsche 356 Cabriolet in 1976 for $1,500. I bought it because I liked how it looked and it was a lot of fun to drive. The 356s were also produced for 15 years and in limited numbers but a lot more than the NSX.
They were also largely hand built and had relatively few changes during their production run. They definitely were short on horsepower. Mine came in at an earth shattering 60hp. Top speed of about 100mph with a tail wind. And of course there were plenty of critics. Usually describing them as fancy VWs.
As unique as the cars were, none of the owners that I associated with in the 70's looked at their cars as investments. Just a great car to own. I kept mine until 2009 when I sold it to purchase a low mileage 2005 NSX. I NEEDED air conditioning! My point is I owned the car for almost forty years and the value went from a modest $1,500 to six figures. It is difficult to find a good open 356 for less than $100,000 and often they are considerably more. The NSX has a lot in common with the old Porsches, a relatively new company at the time, a unique automobile, limited production numbers, hand built, etc. There is hope. You just may have to wait a few years!
I have the B. card with me ... in my desk ... I think I'll throw it away before I get into temptation (Z06) .....
Oscar
Oscar - 42k has to be a little tempting....might have to think about that if someone offered me that. Wait a minute ....give me that business card...:biggrin: Actually if someone bit on mine for 42k - he'd have himself a car. I'd be looking for another one pronto! Later model ....etc!
The CEO owner of this neglected NSX had one or two before it. He has multiple homes in different cities which have multiple vehicles sitting awaiting some use. He is very much an enthusiast and I'd say the NSX is by far the least expensive of the vehicles he owns. I think he also owns a $300K watch which probably sits in a drawer most of the time. I know he has been very busy with his business and just dosen't have the time to enjoy his toys.
There's a 91 NSX with only 973 miles on it in Costa Mesa, Socal. It's for sale for just $125,000
http://www.lemonfree.com/67284386.html
It does not metter anymore, now we are looking at this one:
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141545
Found this in the norcal Craigslist - shockingly low miles!
check it out: $92,500
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/1834236428.html
(copied ad in case the CL expires)
Stock 2004 Acura NSX for sale with 1,564 original one owner miles! This NSX is the best of the best in black exterior with black leather and desirable 6 speed transmission. We have just done the annual service, everything is stock as it came from Acura. This is a very collectible car and will sell fast so please let us know if you have any questions, trades, or financing or leasing needs.
Please take a look at the two detailed photo galleries and video
of this 2004 Acura NSX and call Brad Goldstone at 415-847-4169 with inquiries.
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Pay someone to come up with better post replies :biggrin:. J/KI offerred him $92,250.00 and he wouldn't take it!
What is a guy to do with all of this useless cash sitting around my house???
What is a guy to do with all of this useless cash sitting around my house???