I'm leaning toward the Dali .875 rear instead of the Zanardi because although $50 more, it is adjustable and the zanardi isn't? anyone think I won't need that feature?
God this is costing a lot... first it was the suspension, then the bushings from tidave to complete it... then a VRH so I can clear things... then new springs, now new sways... WTF!!! :biggrin:
Dave, Dave, Dave ........ you and I have had this conversation before, but take my suggestion in gist and for what it is worth - i.e., not much :wink:
But I am posting this for the benefit of others as well (mostly newbies) who seem to ask similar questions.
From all "your" (generic you) posts thus far, it is obvious that you like to keep your car as much as a garage queen as possible albeit you also like to "exercise" it. So let's put this into perspective. All theories of suspension dynamics aside, I bet you most likely will never drive your car at its 10/10; most likely closer to 7.5/10 or 8/10 - otherwise after two track days you will be crying over all the rock chips and cracked windshield :biggrin:
So, all the questions about the nuances between sway bars and spring rates are for the benefit of going from say 7.5/10 to perhaps 9.5/10 and this assumes one has maxed out on one's talent :tongue:
To be perfectly candid, I was of the mindset that by adding mods to my NSX I could compensate what I didn't have in talent compared to better drivers. There is truism to this but up to a limit for non-racers. Adjustability is great, but I soon found out that even with about 10 track days a year, I really had no interest in continually tinkering with adjustments for different ambient temps, tracks, or other considerations. I preferred finding and driving within the limits on that day than to maximize what adjustability I had. Once I found a relatively comfortable setting I stayed with it with minor adjustments to tire pressures as needed. The additional nuances of the mods "may" give you better handling so you can worry less when you are pushing yourself first and then the NSX, but in the end, more often than people want to admit, the limitation is the "self" and not the mods or the car especially for non pro-racers. And by "self" it is not necessarily raw talent, but also one's reflexes, the mindset as in whether you have other considerations (family, business obligations etc) that don't allow you to take full "advantage of managed risk" at the track in a particular NSX.
Unless you are willing to push your NSX to its limits and find out the slip angle and the potential consequences of such a mishap in your prized still wanna-remain garage queen NSX, all the details about a track bar vs mixing trophy with Zanardi or any other combination, and whether the spring rate differential should be 400 or 375 - all based on your driving style on a given day on a particular track, etc. all this discussion is nice - in theory/concept - but marginal at one's tolerance limits given the above provisions. Sure some are proven/tested to be better options - but within certain parameters of the total package at hand.
I am not saying don't maximize the benefit of asking, and learning from the inputs of others (racers to weekend warriors of all kind); but at some point it really doesn't matter much for we are all saying similar things within a range of settings. Until "you" test what mods you have (preferably one at a time so you can see the the pros/cons of each change) on the track and street you won't know whether you like it or not based on your driving style/risk tolerance and road conditions.
While mixing and matching is being discussed, you should also keep in mind that minor changes do make difference without mixing so keep that advantage as well. Just as an FYI, when I went from street tires to track tires I had to adjust my rear adjustable "street/track" sway bar by just one hole and I could immediately see the difference. So even on such a street/track bar you could tell the impact of one hole. Since then I have gone to track bars (full stiff front with Type R bars, and middle hole in the rear etc) ...... Now, the only other adjustment I do to the suspension is to the Comptech Pro damper where I stiffen it by two/three clicks when I am on track tires for track and loosen for street driving with street tires. On a cold track day, I may even leave it at the softer setting.
Kip drove my car and he said it was well balanced - especially for my use/needs. Am I the fastest that I can be? No. My daughter said Kip was driving it faster than I was and Kip was not at 10/10; perhaps only 9.7/10 :biggrin: Do I care that he was faster in my NSX? Heck no; but it gives me the confidence that I am not off in my settings - based on seeing what others had done before me and also trial and error. But I know when the car's rear wiggles or my brain asks "do you really want to 'risk' knowing whether you can or should .... " I have reached my comfort zone. And I am perfectly at ease with this even if a totally stock NSX or a Miata passes me :wink:
YMMV.
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