So, who's planning on buying the new NSX?

[goldNSX]

^No. I'll be waiting on the side-line until the first hype is over which can be fast nowadays. Second reason: I'm too deep into my 91 to dismiss it. My car is jelous. It won't agree having another Diva sitting next to it. This would end in a bitch-fight I could not bare.

 

[Honcho]

If I do pull the trigger it will probably be a few model years into it, as I want to option mine the way I want it and there may be Type S, NSX-R, or other trims available down the line.

 

[N Spec]

I find it interesting that all of the seasoned owners are going to be patient and wait for improved versions, better value and of course for many the depreciated second-hands. It just shows how shrewd the Prime crowd is. There are people who will have to take the plunge though and perpetuate the market so that the improved version can exist...

 

[Dhalsim]

Isn't there also a chance that later years will cost more....maybe significantly more if the cars a hit?

 

[Wizard]

Isn't there also a chance that later years will cost more....maybe significantly more if the cars a hit?

This is what I was thinking as well. Look at the GTR for example. The price sky rocketed after a few years time with its success. People who bought the first year GTR and then sold it later, didn't lose a dime. Those who waited and wanted a new one had to fork out quit a bit more money than the first year owners.

Also, I believe the first year(s) owners of the GTR were able to turn off the launch control, which in later years this option was taken away. Options change over the years, usually for the better, but sometimes for the worse.

 

[JD Cross]

I find it interesting that all of the seasoned owners are going to be patient and wait for improved versions, better value and of course for many the depreciated second-hands. It just shows how shrewd the Prime crowd is. There are people who will have to take the plunge though and perpetuate the market so that the improved version can exist...

I'm a seasoned owner and am first on my dealer's wait list for the new NSX.
I'm neither being patient nor waiting for improved versions and apparently not being shrewd either.

What I am doing is getting older and if I wait too long I'll be too old to drive it.
So if I want the pleasure of driving the new NSX I have to take the plunge.....

You younger posters don't think about the age factor in some buying decisions

 

[ky650]

This is what I was thinking as well. Look at the GTR for example. The price sky rocketed after a few years time with its success. People who bought the first year GTR and then sold it later, didn't lose a dime. Those who waited and wanted a new one had to fork out quit a bit more money than the first year owners.

Also, I believe the first year(s) owners of the GTR were able to turn off the launch control, which in later years this option was taken away. Options change over the years, usually for the better, but sometimes for the worse.

Thats true but are there any other cars where this has happened? Many cars have markups there first year or so before they can be had for just MSRP, I believe that's the far more common scenario right?

 

[N Spec]

I'm a seasoned owner and am first on my dealer's wait list for the new NSX.
I'm neither being patient nor waiting for improved versions and apparently not being shrewd either.

What I am doing is getting older and if I wait too long I'll be too old to drive it.
So if I want the pleasure of driving the new NSX I have to take the plunge.....

You younger posters don't think about the age factor in some buying decisions

I can respect and appreciate that. Lead the pack on!

 

[Osiris_x11]

I'm a seasoned owner and am first on my dealer's wait list for the new NSX.
I'm neither being patient nor waiting for improved versions and apparently not being shrewd either.

What I am doing is getting older and if I wait too long I'll be too old to drive it.
So if I want the pleasure of driving the new NSX I have to take the plunge.....

You younger posters don't think about the age factor (and/or energy & interest) in some buying decisions

A most excellent post, precisely my thinking & reasoning. I can totally relate to this.

I just need to see the real-deal production version. I loved the original "release" NSX-Concept (Seinfeld-Leno commercial; GT5 SIM clip; Detroit NAIAS unveiling) but I've been tepid since then with the Ohio track-test mules, subsequent auto-show samples, and recent Tokyo Auto-Salon example.

 

[QUICKIE]

A most excellent post, precisely my thinking & reasoning. I can totally relate to this.

I just need to see the real-deal production version. I loved the original "release" NSX-Concept (Seinfeld-Leno commercial; GT5 SIM clip; Detroit NAIAS unveiling) but I've been tepid since then with the Ohio track-test mules, subsequent auto-show samples, and recent Tokyo Auto-Salon example.

Osiris,
If MSRP is around $165k, how much over the list price do you think most will consider to be reasonable .... assuming that the production version is totally hot :wink: ??

 

[JD Cross]

Osiris,
If MSRP is around $165k, how much over the list price do you think most will consider to be reasonable assuming that the production version is totally hot.

Strange as it may sound to some, there will be deals done at MSRP on the new NSX.

 

[charlee]

Is it possible to predict the numbers to be produced. I will only be in this market if there are going to be 8000 or less on U.S. streets. I definitely do not want to be comparing colors with the Jones. The first and foremost reason for owning my current NSX is that it is exclusive and they are rare, other reasons are obvious. There are many other options to choose from if HP and torque are of concerns.

 

[JD Cross]

Is it possible to predict the numbers to be produced. I will only be in this market if there are going to be 8000 or less on U.S. streets. I definitely do not want to be comparing colors with the Jones. The first and foremost reason for owning my current NSX is that it is exclusive and they are rare, other reasons are obvious. There are many other options to choose from if HP and torque are of concerns.

You must have missed the previous comments that Ted Klaus made about NSX volumes.
He suggested 1500 cars per year for North America would be a reasonable sales goal.

 

[charlee]

At this rate, the number of NSX2 will surpass NSX1 after five years if no NSX1 were ever decomissioned.

I would feel the depreciation if I see two or more neighbors washing their NSX2 in the same cul-de-sac.

 

[MoreRPMs]

You must have missed the previous comments that Ted Klaus made about NSX volumes.
He suggested 1500 cars per year for North America would be a reasonable sales goal.

That statement is very telling in the sense that a $140,000 sticker would never support those numbers. Not coming from a Honda, at least. GT-R has sales of around 1000/yr, IIRC; and remember, it debuted at $70K and a few years later it's $100K.

At this rate, the number of NSX2 will surpass NSX1 after five years if no NSX1 were ever decomissioned.

I would feel the depreciation if I see two or more neighbors washing their NSX2 in the same cul-de-sac.

Unless you don't live in Anytown USA (i.e. the richest zip codes), I don't think you're in any danger of seeing two more in driveways on your street. NSX II's production will not equal Vette's.

 

[N Spec]

I honestly don't see this next gen outselling the first gen. US numbers were not even 10K in 15 years for the first enduring run. I don't think they will break 6k in 6-7 years in the US alone. Hopefully, by then, Gen 3 will begin to surface instead of this iteration being extended for so long like the first gen. I could be completely wrong though, but at $125K+, it will cement the exclusivity for sure.

 

[charlee]

Thumbs up for exclusivity if predictions of 1000 NSX/year is accurate. Does anybody recall the exponential decay rate for the NSX1? In other words, at what percent did it decrease over say, the first 10 years? Will this decrease rate hold true for the NSX2? The answer to these questions will help my long term plans. Truly sad to think there will be a NSX3!

 

[JD Cross]

Thumbs up for exclusivity if predictions of 1000 NSX/year is accurate. Does anybody recall the exponential decay rate for the NSX1? In other words, at what percent did it decrease over say, the first 10 years? Will this decrease rate hold true for the NSX2? The answer to these questions will help my long term plans. Truly sad to think there will be a NSX3!

NSX sales by year are in the Wiki.

 

[myw]

Can't wait to see the updates in a few days!

 

[NZNick]

Honda did say the new longitudinal position will require that the rear bumper will grow to accommodate crash protection. So that should help the badunkadunk. And I think they know the front needs to come down. The concept introduced in Detroit last January attempts to lower the nose with the revised grill (beak). I am going to cross my fingers, keep an open mind and reserve harsh judgement till I see it in person. I think it's heading in the right direction.

The front won't be able to come down much (if any) more for pedestrian safety regulation reasons. Just look at any front engined 2014 car compared to a 2000 car and you can see that the regulations have dictated the shape and size (height). The same logic applies to cars with engines not in the front - there has to be a crumple zone and energy absorbing zone that is pedestrian-friendly(ish) above any structure - suspension / electric motor / battery / radiator / whatever. The way to get a low nose is to have nothing under the skin of the nose - wasted space, which also changes the aerodynamics and balance of the car.

 

[Hothonda]

RE the front hood: One of the great features of the original NSX was having a spare tire up there.....

A can of fix a flat and 800 number is a waste of time.....

 

[myw]

i agree. i dont think any p-car owner has ever used that goddamn flat fix gunk.

RE the front: One of the great features of the original NSX was having a spare tire up front.

A can of fix a flat and 800 number is a waste of time.....

 

[Meeyatch1]

I have been on the waiting list for a few years now, and am very close to giving up my spot and getting my deposit back. This is for a few reasons.

1.) The anticipated MSRP continues to swell...and now is well beyond what I anticipate the car being worth.

2.) The cars that were it's benchmarks are about ready to be replaced themselves, and the NSX is still another YEAR from being released anyway. (Sound familiar? Introduced and out of date shortly afterwards....where have I seen that before?) So it will be almost OBSOLETE within a couple of years of finally getting into customers hands.

3.) I am just plain irritated and bored with Honda / Acura dragging this out for so darn long! I mean, it has been YEARS since the NSX Prototype was unveiled in Detroit, and the freaking thing is STILL not here!!

4.) There is going to be a lot more bang for the buck available.

5.) I don't see it being as world changing as the original. Plain and simple.

Congrats, Acura! You managed to make even an 18 year NSX owner get so fed up with waiting for the new NSX, that I am giving up and going elsewhere. Too much hype....not enough timely results.

 

[Valkyrie Pilot]

The front won't be able to come down much (if any) more for pedestrian safety regulation reasons. Just look at any front engined 2014 car compared to a 2000 car and you can see that the regulations have dictated the shape and size (height). The same logic applies to cars with engines not in the front - there has to be a crumple zone and energy absorbing zone that is pedestrian-friendly(ish) above any structure - suspension / electric motor / battery / radiator / whatever. The way to get a low nose is to have nothing under the skin of the nose - wasted space, which also changes the aerodynamics and balance of the car.

I don't fully understand these pedestrian safety regulations but I think you may have a valid point.

However, the new Vette seems to contradict this point. It was released as a 2014 model, has the engine under the hood with little space between and has a very low front bumper/short front overhang. If GM can work around this issue, shouldn't Honda be able to do the same?

 

[Osiris_x11]

I have been on the waiting list for a few years now, and am very close to giving up my spot and getting my deposit back. This is for a few reasons.
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Congrats, Acura! You managed to make even an 18 year NSX owner get so fed up with waiting for the new NSX, that I am giving up and going elsewhere. Too much hype....not enough timely results.

I can't speak to the actual performance/handling nor the final design/style of the NSX-v2, but the only other platform that's similar in terms of technology is the McLaren P1 (aluminum+composite construction, high-output/small-displacement twin-turbo powertrain, lightweight, DCT drivetrain, "hybrid" electric-assist, et'al). It's unlikely any upcoming Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Porsche model to offer all that in a single package (yes, there are attributes here/there in the LaFerrari & 918, but not fully integrated in a single offering as the aforementioned).

The only "real" contemporary to the NSX-v2 I can potentially see would be the McLaren P13/MY15 (mid-engine, twin-turbo[?], aluminum-composite construction, lightweight, active-aero, and presumable P1-derived "hybrid" electric-assist, etc) at purported $165k-$175k. We'll know more after the Beijing Int'l Auto-show, presumably.

With that said, something that gives more usable performance (due to the "hybrid" electric-assist and SH-AWD) & comparable experience at 1/2 the MSRP of a ~$275k+ 458 Italia and 12C (both arguably dated, going by the hyperfast-evolving automotive-tech trends) isn't necessarily all that bad or undesirable. Even in'lieu of the forthcoming respective model-replacements and/or refreshes. There's a'plenty of buyers in the sub-$150k marketplace buying Vantages, GranTurismos, California GTs, 911-variants, R8s, and the like. Namely, models that are nowhere near 458, 12C, and 911 turbo/etc "quick" & engaging.

I agree on being fatigued with regards to the upcoming NSX-v2 arrival (or even the production-ready version showing & sharing of specs). I'm hoping for a release in '14 as a '15 model-year offering...