Sheriff neighbor does not like Black people.

[VampNSXX]

Hi guys

I have rented out my old house to a Black lady and her 3 kids. The oldest kid is 14 years old and is like 6'4 in height. Well they came over to see the house and the kids like to were basket ball players shorts and shirts. Well my next door neighbor is a Sheriff and there are 2 other sheriffs on that street. When my next door neighbor saw my tenets kids he came over to ask me if I had any luck renting out the Place and I told him yes I just did to the people who just left the house. So what he does is tell me " your Kidding?" and I say "no" so he just turns around and shakes his head and walks away like he did not want to live next door to them. as he waked away I tell him that they are nice people and he say whatever. Well I just could not believe what a racist person he was. This are the people who police the city .. So now I am hoping he does not give them a hard time... you guys have any advice?

by the way my sheriff neighbors are all white guys just so we have that clear.

 

[Joel]

Screw em. It will be good for them to live next to those whom they are ignorant of. It's your house, your rules.

Much respect for you for not reflecting their own biases.

 

[steveny]

Not all but most law enforcement people judge a book by it's cover first. It would be really nice if the sheriff were open minded enough to to look past the cover on the book of his new neighbors. Maybe he might learn something he doesn't know yet.

 

[charleysung]

Maybe over time, the sherriff will become close with his black neighbors and realize the errors of his ways.

 

[nkb]

Maybe over time, the sherriff will become close with his black neighbors and realize the errors of his ways.

Not to be negative, but that sounds like a movie script.

In real life, prejudices are very tough to overcome. It's entirely possible that this guy will be hostile towards them, and they will naturally display hostility back. And the stereotypes will be reinforced.

Based on how vocal the neighbor is with his prejudice, I am guessing it is pretty deeply ingrained, and getting to know the black family won't do squat. Even if they are the nicest people around, he might dismiss it as an aberration.

At times, this is a sad world that we live in.

 

[The Kid]

COPS SUCK! From the speeding tickets to constant harrasement they just suck!!

 

[KGP]

...you guys have any advice?

Send the Sheriff a Christmas present. A copy of Monsters Ball. :smile:

 

[djskyy]

damn ignorant people...


besides, my next door neighbor IS a sheriffs deputy too.....but, he loves my NSX... :biggrin:

 

[queenlives]

<sigh>

wouldn't it be a better world if we didn't have these kinds of things to deal with? sadly, i'm betting it's all too common.

me? i'd consider keeping a record of the conversation on file and be prepared to use it at a later date should there be any complaints or "issues" arising that seem out of line.

be well.

 

[Ojas]

COPS SUCK! From the speeding tickets to constant harrasement they just suck!!

It’s ironic that in a thread about prejudices, you make a ridiculous statement like this. :frown:

 

[flight]

Having been on the recieving end of racism many times, you learn to live with it somewhat. But what I find very difficult to deal with is predudice amongst law enforcement. IMO it is completely unacceptable but a fact of life.

I think it would be worth keeping a close eye on the situation to make sure things do not get out of hand. Considering he is a sheriff, I am sure all sorts of things are possbile. Hope the family and does not get screwed for things they did not do.

 

[newby]

COPS SUCK! From the speeding tickets to constant harrasement they just suck!!

I always thought you offered a decent prospective on threads... I'm disappointed in your ignorance.



Not to take sides here, but this cop probably deals with a lot of trouble makers who are African American. Maybe he feels comfortable coming home to people he knows and trusts...and now these new people are moving in. Whether black or white we all know when we get a new neighbor...we wonder if we'll get along or conflict with one another.

Being a cop isn't like any other job. You are always on guard at work...so your home is the only place you can feel safe. He's probably has got nothing to worry about.....but I understand his concerns. I recently had some college students move in a few houses down from me (I'm also a cop) and I was not excited about it. If that's age racism...then so be it. Unfortunately my concerns were legit and I ended up having to be a cop in my own neighborhood because these kids had parties every weekend and kept the neighbors up until 4-5am. It took about 5 complaints and a few front door visits to finally get the to understand the neighborhood isn't a college dorm!!

I do not condone his behavior when he found out his neighbors were black. However just like his negative judgements are unfair...yours toward him are also unfair being you don't know him.

 

[VampNSXX]

Thanks guys for your support because I feel bad that this is going on. But its scary because since he is a sheriff he could do any thing he wants and it will be hard to prove him wrong in the event that he were to make problems for me and the family who rented my house. Specially since he is such good friend with the other 2 sheriffs that live in the same street.

 

[newby]

Thanks guys for your support because I feel bad that this is going on. But its scary because since he is a sheriff he could do any thing he wants and it will be hard to prove him wrong in the event that he were to make problems for me and the family who rented my house. Specially since he is such good friend with the other 2 sheriffs that live in the same street.

Cops are not above the law. We all have supervisors... if it gets out of hand contact their Sergeant. If that doesn't work....the Sheriff or the County Commisioners.
Don't get worked up....it may work out just fine.

 

[NSXTASY_MD]

It’s ironic that in a thread about prejudices, you make a statement like this. :frown:

There is some thruth to all stereotypes...that's why they exist* Being involved in law enforcement commonly makes an otherwise unracist person more racist...I've seen this occur many times. Even more, officers that I know who are BLACK themselves give black people an even harder time when patrolling than white officers* And as sad as this is to say (at least in my area) the by FAR majority of petty/blatant/violent crime that occurs are initiated by black youth* (something like 90% of the arrests in the D.C./PG county areas) explained to me by two officer friends who are partners (one white, one black) ....there's a reality to it folks, I wish we could write a story book ending to it but reality isn't based on the media or pop culture. The stressful line of work that officers deal with daily make them very sensative to whom they encounter daily...they don't want to "come home to it," case closed. (thats how they see it)

PS: God knows I've wanted to rip the heads off arrogant loser cops who've pulled me over / ticketed me in the past but I do empathize with what they encounter daily in todays society...it's not pretty, and it's the same ethnic group(s) everytime...cops know this, white or black.

PS: I've explained the local realities in *my* area to "attempt" to explain that cops attitude...if that also makes me a racist* ..then those whom label me so are 100% biggets. (For the record, I'm a foreign born immigrant that wouldn't/couldn't check "white" on a census card)

 

[len3.8]

I always thought you offered a decent prospective on threads... I'm disappointed in your ignorance.



Not to take sides here, but this cop probably deals with a lot of trouble makers who are African American. Maybe he feels comfortable coming home to people he knows and trusts...and now these new people are moving in. Whether black or white we all know when we get a new neighbor...we wonder if we'll get along or conflict with one another.

Being a cop isn't like any other job. You are always on guard at work...so your home is the only place you can feel safe. He's probably has got nothing to worry about.....but I understand his concerns. I recently had some college students move in a few houses down from me (I'm also a cop) and I was not excited about it. If that's age racism...then so be it. Unfortunately my concerns were legit and I ended up having to be a cop in my own neighborhood because these kids had parties every weekend and kept the neighbors up until 4-5am. It took about 5 complaints and a few front door visits to finally get the to understand the neighborhood isn't a college dorm!!

I do not condone his behavior when he found out his neighbors were black. However just like his negative judgements are unfair...yours toward him are also unfair being you don't know him.

Newby, What part of his concerns are understandable? Not flaming just asking for my own interests. Other than the color of the skin, He knew nothing of the new neighbors, unless I missed something...

Unless you guys actually post demographics, your statistics can be meaningless..

 

[jgtcnsx]

i would have flipped,my girlfriend is black and i dont tolerate that at all

 

[VampNSXX]

I always thought you offered a decent prospective on threads... I'm disappointed in your ignorance.



Not to take sides here, but this cop probably deals with a lot of trouble makers who are African American. Maybe he feels comfortable coming home to people he knows and trusts...and now these new people are moving in. Whether black or white we all know when we get a new neighbor...we wonder if we'll get along or conflict with one another.

Being a cop isn't like any other job. You are always on guard at work...so your home is the only place you can feel safe. He's probably has got nothing to worry about.....but I understand his concerns. I recently had some college students move in a few houses down from me (I'm also a cop) and I was not excited about it. If that's age racism...then so be it. Unfortunately my concerns were legit and I ended up having to be a cop in my own neighborhood because these kids had parties every weekend and kept the neighbors up until 4-5am. It took about 5 complaints and a few front door visits to finally get the to understand the neighborhood isn't a college dorm!!

I do not condone his behavior when he found out his neighbors were black. However just like his negative judgements are unfair...yours toward him are also unfair being you don't know him.

Well you are a cop and you are saying basically that if someone who dresses one way and is not the race you want him or her to be is a red flag to you. See what I mean this should not happen and it is not right. The part that bothers me the most is that Cops should not be doing this they are suppose to protect us not make us feel like we are the bad guys because we are not white people. I am not talking about all cops just the racist ones.

 

[newby]

Newby, What part of his concerns are understandable? Not flaming just asking for my own iterests. Other than the color of the skin, He knew nothing of the new neighbors, unless I missed something...

I am not racist. I treat everyone the same on the job and in my personal life. However my job sometimes causes me to look at certain people twice. I deal with a lot of hispanics...drugs, assauts and rapes. I don't believe all Hispanics are bad people (I know some decent hispanic people), however I may have a momentary negative thought if a hispanic moved next to me. I don't like that I think that way, however my job has caused me to subsciously stereotype people. I'm not saying it's right....I'm just saying it's not always easy to seperate the job from your personal life. That's what is understandable to me......

You may judge me for this (I would do the same if I didn't have the experience in Law Enforcement that I do)....but unfortunately sometimes that is how it is. Hopefully this neighbor of VampNSX is like me and will put aside is concerns and will give his new neighbors a fair shake.

 

[VampNSXX]

i would have flipped,my girlfriend is black and i dont tolerate that at all

believe me it ruined my weekend but what could I do tell him he is a racist and then he might get mad and say I tried to assault him... Its hard to deal with something like that... I always thought renting out a house would be a problem because they don't pay rent not because the guy next door is ignorant.

 

[len3.8]

Newby, For the record. I never called you a racist. As well as I know that there is a large degree to profiling, especially in certain neighborhood, states, and cities. Vamp NSX simply posted his story about a new tenant, the other neighbor already has his mind set before they have moved in...
That is part of the problem. I have had run-ins with racist people, trouble makers, ect. I have never come back and say that I don't want such and such as a neighbor based on what others have done. How can someone just simply condemn/stereotype/ and entire race? If you are a law enforcement officer in a prodominently (Insert race) area, they will undoubtedly make up a majority of the problems.
Being stereotyped is just plain wrong. He has not even given this family a chance. And from a first hand experience, if you think this isn't huge, you are wrong on so many levels. The issues are mind blowing. Most people don't have a clue.

 

[flight]

I deal with a lot of hispanics...drugs, assauts and rapes. I don't believe all Hispanics are bad people (I know some decent hispanic people), however I may have a momentary negative thought if a hispanic moved next to me.

I think this happens to everybody in some form or another and IMO it is normal, perhaps not ideal, but normal nontheless. By that I mean to have immediate thoughts and images of people based on their apperance.

What is important is what people do with that thought - do they manifest it into words or worse? Or do people just cast it away as a momentary lapse?

Hopefully this neighbor of VampNSX is like me and will put aside is concerns and will give his new neighbors a fair shake.

I doubt this will be the case because he seemed quiet vocal is his views. Also he has a position of power which can easily corrupt people - that is the scary part. I do not know him from a bar of soap, but these are simple facts about us as humans.

Cops are not above the law. We all have supervisors... if it gets out of hand contact their Sergeant. If that doesn't work....the Sheriff or the County Commisioners.

In my experience this does not always work but it is good advice. You guys do live in a democartic society and there are avenues if you are being repressed for any reason. Whole different ball game in some other countries.

 

[D'Ecosse]

Maybe over time, the sherriff will become close with his black neighbors and realize the errors of his ways.

Yeah, right ........ good luck with that fairy tale.
It's almost a free license to steal or vandalize for the other kids in the neighborhood - when something goes wrong, one guess only necessary to figure where the bigot starts looking .........

I can't believe those defending the issue of majority % of crime is black - even if statistically correct, that's not quite the same as saying that every black is a criminal, or potential criminal. This sherrif has absolutley nothing to validate his comments over who his potential neighbors might be except their colour - I don't care if a black man killed his mother, it is still completely unwarranted against these presumably innocent individuals to stereotype. Now, if a white man killed his mother (all purely hypothetical), would he be insisting that only blacks, Asians or Hispanics could rent the house?

 

[D'Ecosse]

I am not racist. ... I deal with a lot of hispanics...drugs, assauts and rapes. I don't believe all Hispanics are bad people (I know some decent hispanic people), however I may have a momentary negative thought if a hispanic moved next to me.....

You are acknowledging that your first thought is to suspect them because of their race ...... sorry, you may not consider yourself a racist but that is certainly a racist comment. The part about - "they're not all bad ......" is quite a disturbing comment.

 

[flight]

I can't believe those defending the issue of majority % of crime is black - even if statistically correct, that's not quite the same as saying that every black is a criminal, or potential criminal.

I do not live in the US (visited heaps) but I have always found this statistic hard to swallow. Black people make up about 13.3% of the population (all age groups) and they are responsible for the majority of the crimes in the US? I think the statistician's need to count again. Last time I checked nut jobs came in the lighter color too.