Real Jdm

[nsxtcy85]

Well i just found out a friend of mine is opening a shop up here locally and will be taking orders for jdm cars of all kinds and will be registering them. yes registering them. So they will me US street legal. Im just trying to find out if theres any intersted on this forum. He has about 5 guys ready to take order on the nissan forums.

Some of the cars hes found for good prices.
RHD ITR
RHD Nsx :biggrin: (says he found a few type s's)
R32-R33-R34 Gtr's to gts'ts
Nissan pulsars
Sylvias
and Real Civic type R's

 

[The Kid]

Im sure there is interest. Pics, prices, miles and more details normally help.:wink:

 

[nsxtcy85]

Oh btw when i say competative pricing im actually serious for once unlike most of the gimick websites online.

for instance R34 gtr's street legal for about 40-42k

 

[rickysals]

ask about any NSX-R's

 

[comquat1]

Could you find out how he plans on legally registering Skylines? Or is he "registering" them?

Also, how are Sylvia S15's registered and made street legal?

 

[the0ne]

pics!

 

[Pacemaker Kid89]

As for beening a teenager and knowing about skylines GT-Rs and GT-Ss, you would need to send them to motorx to have it all done. Well they are out of commision, howver what I have found out is that they crashed a bunch of GT-Rs (yes lets have a moment of peace for them) for the USDOT and the USDOT said "ok you can legaly import these cars". Now it gets sucky after this, Motorx had the permission and the USDOT said ok. However that still doesnt mean ANYONE can import them. Yes the DOT says ok, but you need to become a dealer of importation and prove to them (USDOT) again, that you can import it. It is extreamly unfair, since someone already did it. But if you look at it from Motorx's point of view, they spent a lot of money crashing cars (11 to be exact) and they dont want someone who only bought 1 or two to have the rights to import it and not have to spend alot of money. Hense, why is it pretty expensive to import one in the first place.

And yes pictures of these cars will be nice. I'll take a S15 Silvia, which will have to go through the same process as the Skyline to get legalized.

 

[Juice]

I'll believe it when I see it. I call Bullshit.

 

[Spinner]

Good luck to your friend's store. I've seen many shops attempting this and many (including the infamous motorex) have failed...

I'd like to see some of the last Spirit R Rx-7s..

 

[Anosa]

As for beening a teenager and knowing about skylines GT-Rs and GT-Ss, you would need to send them to motorx to have it all done. Well they are out of commision, howver what I have found out is that they crashed a bunch of GT-Rs (yes lets have a moment of peace for them) for the USDOT and the USDOT said "ok you can legaly import these cars". Now it gets sucky after this, Motorx had the permission and the USDOT said ok. However that still doesnt mean ANYONE can import them. Yes the DOT says ok, but you need to become a dealer of importation and prove to them (USDOT) again, that you can import it. It is extreamly unfair, since someone already did it. But if you look at it from Motorx's point of view, they spent a lot of money crashing cars (11 to be exact) and they dont want someone who only bought 1 or two to have the rights to import it and not have to spend alot of money. Hense, why is it pretty expensive to import one in the first place.

And yes pictures of these cars will be nice. I'll take a S15 Silvia, which will have to go through the same process as the Skyline to get legalized.

Are you sure on this, I have a Import Tuner magazine that says otherwise... the crash testing only needs to be done once, and you need about 5 cars for the testing 1 for emissions 1 to dismantle 2 for crash testing frontal and side impact. ( they dont say anything about rear? ) and one extra just in case? BUT acording to this list here

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ELIG010906.html

these cars CAN be brought into the US. BUT only by a RI ( Registered Importer.) On this list. there is no nsx... So in order for him to do this he would need to
a. be a registered importer and
b. demolish a few nsx's...Its seems a waste to me to kill these cars just to bring some over here. let them live... anyways it dosent seem like this can happen and 40k seems WAYYYY too low. Its possible tho that they are bringing them over as cars with " historical significance" pretty much you need to prove that you would be doing a service to others by importing the car and displaying for the public to see, the catch? you can only drive it 2500 miles a year. I REALLY doubt that this is happening tho, especially considering that the nsx hasnt even passed the inspection phaze. With any luck im wrong tho ^^.

 

[Anosa]

Good luck to your friend's store. I've seen many shops attempting this and many (including the infamous motorex) have failed...

I'd like to see some of the last Spirit R Rx-7s..

unfortunatly on that list it looks like its only up to 95's that can be brought to the U.S. so no spirit R's... legally at least iv seen them for sale that aren't registered.

 

[Daedalus]

Are you sure on this, I have a Import Tuner magazine that says otherwise... the crash testing only needs to be done once, and you need about 5 cars for the testing 1 for emissions 1 to dismantle 2 for crash testing frontal and side impact. ( they dont say anything about rear? ) and one extra just in case? BUT acording to this list here

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ELIG010906.html

these cars CAN be brought into the US. BUT only by a RI ( Registered Importer.) On this list. there is no nsx... So in order for him to do this he would need to
a. be a registered importer and
b. demolish a few nsx's...Its seems a waste to me to kill these cars just to bring some over here. let them live... anyways it dosent seem like this can happen and 40k seems WAYYYY too low. Its possible tho that they are bringing them over as cars with " historical significance" pretty much you need to prove that you would be doing a service to others by importing the car and displaying for the public to see, the catch? you can only drive it 2500 miles a year. I REALLY doubt that this is happening tho, especially considering that the nsx hasnt even passed the inspection phaze. With any luck im wrong tho ^^.

Skylines can be brought over--there is no question about that. Making them legal is the hard part. Historical significance does not apply to cars that are so common globally. Neither does "substantial similarity" to any US-spec vehicles. Beware of "street legal" Skylines that exist in the US if they did not go through MRex. They may have state registrations and license plates, but they aren't legal. Spend the time to read through the government documents that your taxes paid for. They are sometimes a little vague. Read through it all, then draw your own conclusion. What exactly does Import Tuner say?

 

[Pacemaker Kid89]

Its possible tho that they are bringing them over as cars with " historical significance" pretty much you need to prove that you would be doing a service to others by importing the car and displaying for the public to see, the catch? you can only drive it 2500 miles a year. I REALLY doubt that this is happening tho, especially considering that the nsx hasnt even passed the inspection phaze. With any luck im wrong tho ^^.

The car needs to be 25 years old or older to this, for canda is 15, thats why they can drive the R32s and legaly keep them.

And I am pretty sure about my imformation, if I'm wrong them I wrong, but I am pretty sure I'm right.

 

[nsxtcy85]

What you dont realise is that were out of maine, and this state is so far behind in everything. He found a loop hole to get the cars over customs and get them registered in the state of Maine. Hes doing his first one (rhd ITR) next week so ill let you know how it all goes down if so were good to roll. and yes they might catch on but not for atleast 2-3 years so we'll have plenty into the states by then.

"Originally Posted by Pacemaker Kid89
As for beening a teenager and knowing about skylines GT-Rs and GT-Ss, you would need to send them to motorx to have it all done. Well they are out of commision, howver what I have found out is that they crashed a bunch of GT-Rs (yes lets have a moment of peace for them) for the USDOT and the USDOT said "ok you can legaly import these cars". Now it gets sucky after this, Motorx had the permission and the USDOT said ok. However that still doesnt mean ANYONE can import them. Yes the DOT says ok, but you need to become a dealer of importation and prove to them (USDOT) again, that you can import it. It is extreamly unfair, since someone already did it. But if you look at it from Motorx's point of view, they spent a lot of money crashing cars (11 to be exact) and they dont want someone who only bought 1 or two to have the rights to import it and not have to spend alot of money. Hense, why is it pretty expensive to import one in the first place.

And yes pictures of these cars will be nice. I'll take a S15 Silvia, which will have to go through the same process as the Skyline to get legalized."

Ok MReX was raided by the feds and put out of business and yes there have been lots of shiesty businesses importing skylines and othere jdm cars accross customs and assembling them here and registering them as kit cars. That is also somthing that we have looked into but the companies doing this werent successfull.

Oh btw his main goal is to have a few registered right on the lot for people who want to come test drive them. Alone with his personal R33 Gt-r.

 

[Pacemaker Kid89]

See I am very interested if this all works. However, what if I want a 120k mileage R34GT-T not a GT-S or a GT-R, is it possible? even to import other cars from Japan, not the fast ones, can you get the loophole thing to work with those?

 

[nsxtcy85]

Well yea its alot easier they cost alot less, lol.

I can even get you one of those little minivan cop cars if you want.

 

[comquat1]

So these cars will only be legal in Maine?

I would think that if your friend is going to be trying to ship those out of Maine that he better be willing to jump through some loop holes with his customers trying to register them in their state. The last thing I want to find out about my "new" GT-R is that the state of Michigan won't issue a VIN for it. Will he be doing a money back guarantee?

 

[nsxsupra]

for instance R34 gtr's street legal for about 40-42k

Largest used car listing site in Japan:
http://www.carsensor.net/cgi-bin/CS...000000000000000000000000**NI_95*&PLCC=0000000

It is only in your dreams, not unless $40~$42k is what you charge for the misc processing + legalizing fee, and on top of that additional $35~$60K+ to buy a usedR34 "GTR" in Japan.

Assuming you can read Japanese, most of Skyline "R34 GTRs" still sell for more than $40K USD in Japan, don't sell me your friend's daddy is Bill Gates and you are doing charity, planning on losing big money on every car. Cheapest R34 GTR is selling at 3.5million yen and that one has accident history, while most decent ones go for around 4.5~6million yen.

you might be able to pull it off with Skyline R34 GT-S or GT-T, which looks almost the same, and cost a 50%+ less to buy in Japan, but sorry, selling R-34 GTR for $42k in USA without losing at least $20k on each car, never going to happen.

Look at how much used NSX go for in Japan, people who doesn't know much about used car market in Japan always tell me it would be cheap to buy NSX in Japan since it is JDM, it just cracks me up. It is actually cheaper to buy used NSX in USA. I would be driving one as daily driver in Japan if they were cheap, NA1 type r still sell for 8million JPY, finding an NA2 type R= virtually impossible without spending 10~13million yen+. NSX is a much bigger deal in Japan than in the States.
http://www.carsensor.net/cgi-bin/CS...000000000000000000000000000**NI_95*&CAR=HO_16

 

[schuey1010]

I'll believe it when I see it. I call Bullshit.

yep!

 

[Daedalus]

The car needs to be 25 years old or older to this, for canda is 15, thats why they can drive the R32s and legaly keep them.

And I am pretty sure about my imformation, if I'm wrong them I wrong, but I am pretty sure I'm right.

But what about compliance with the CARB and Clean Air Act requirements? Canadian laws are exactly that--Canadian.
Don't be too hasty to find a loophole vehicle. If you get caught, customs will sieze the vehicle and either ship it off-shore or destroy it, and they will bill you for their cost to do so.

 

[Daedalus]

Other wide-eyed enthusiastic entrepreneurs have had similar aspirations. One young fellow really stands out in my mind:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cameron+wieldraayer&spell=1

My buddy had a Skyline dream. For 2 weeks it came true. It was a well-modded blue R33 GTR. He borrowed it from MRex while the paperwork was being finished, but had to take it back. He was one of the many that lost money--those folks who had money down in the months (year) prior to MRex's demise. He gave me a ride in it, and it was pure heaven. Like a sportbike, only you're in a car.

 

[nsxtcy85]

Maine does not have emisions laws. While at my inspection I literely roll up to one of my garages that i go to and they come out slap the sticker on my car and i give them my 12.50. Here in maine there more worried about pochers and drag trafficing. Maine is practically sheltered from the rest of the united states i swear. And yes he has found better than normal prices on cars so we will actually be able to make a profit while suppling cars at a good price. Ones you wouldent normaly get at all. And yes they will be originaly registered and issued a VIN in maine but it will be transferable.

Btw ill have pics of me with the RHD ITR this weekend from some basic proof. and to eliminate some basic BS flags.:biggrin:

 

[Daedalus]

Maine does not have emisions laws.

They may not be enforced, but at the very least, every car in this country is subject to federal laws, except those registered in CA. What happens when the state decides to start enforcing them, like so many states have decided so far? Do owners get grandfathered in? Do they lose their cars? Does your friend get sued?
Cameron, from my link above, had several Skylines in his driveway at one point, from what I've heard. His state didn't enforce smog laws either. You'll have to expect some cynicism--the story's been heard before, and with no real success. A pic of a legal VIN substitution plate would impress me a lot more than a pic of the rest of the car. States do not issue those.

 

[nsxsupra]

Btw ill have pics of me with the RHD ITR this weekend from some basic proof. and to eliminate some basic BS flags.:biggrin:

I will believe it when I see the $42k R34 GTR, if you can somehow pull this miracle off without having to wait 5~15years for the price to drop in Japan, put me on the waiting list priority waiting list. I will definitely take one.

There is easily $30~$45k potential profit per car if you can sell it to me at $42k. People in California who are willing to pay $80 to $90k can't even get one. Even people who does exporting business in Japan with all sorts of connection pay premium just to drive it in the States $90k:

 

[steveny]

Tebber, is that you again? :biggrin: