Racist guy spray paints on Asian's car on Pearl Harbor Day....gets his A$$ Whooped!

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Well, I bet the guy won't be spray painting anybody's cars anytime soon. That being said, assault is a much bigger deal than vandalism and I doubt that cocky little punk could justify his actions in court. He'd be the one going to jail I think, and there's a reason for it too. There's no justification here to attack anyone, and those of you on here who agree that the kid was entitled to assault someone over spray paint on a car need to re-evaluate your perspectives - what if he had a medical condition and he died while the kid was beating the crap outta him?

I'm actually slightly confused, as this guy doesn't look to me like someone who was there during the attack on Pearl Harbor. Maybe he's a Nam vet? Guy certainly looks confused/drunk.
 
I think the guy that beat up the vet is wrong, when you know that you can oppose your will on a person you should restrain from resorting to violence or fighting. Be the bigger man and back away and call the cops and they will take care of things. It's only a car and that's what insurance is for. I'm not saying the vet is in the right because he was absolutely wrong for defacing a persons car and those remarks are abhorrent.

If a guy did that to my nsx I would of called the cops, take down his plates and asked him to stay. Maybe even think about about repainting my car championship white. I would only resort to violence or fight to defend my friends and family from imminent danger. I use to love getting into fights and thought nothing of it but the more I train the calmer I become, I have walked away from quite a few fights I could of dominated. Just walk away because you never know if the other person has a knife or a gun, things can get ugly really fast.


Very well said. This kid is a douche. I have no doubt in my mind that he will get his ass seriously beat in the near future with an attitude like that. The Vet was wrong and admitted his mistake and accepted responsibility. That kid needs to learn to respect people and keep things in perspective.
 
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That being said, assault is a much bigger deal than vandalism and I doubt that cocky little punk could justify his actions in court. He'd be the one going to jail I think, and there's a reason for it too. There's no justification here to attack anyone, and those of you on here who agree that the kid was entitled to assault someone over spray paint on a car need to re-evaluate your perspectives - what if he had a medical condition and he died while the kid was beating the crap outta him?
This. I'm really not sure how I would respond, but this kid is wrong. I still believe that men can handle their problems outside of court and maybe this ended the best way possible but talking shit on video about how you beat up an old man? Not smart. The kid legally stands to loose the most.
 
Some lawyer is ordering a new NSX as we speak...
 
I think the guy that beat up the vet is wrong, when you know that you can oppose your will on a person you should restrain from resorting to violence or fighting. Be the bigger man and back away and call the cops and they will take care of things. It's only a car and that's what insurance is for. I'm not saying the vet is in the right because he was absolutely wrong for defacing a persons car and those remarks are abhorrent.

If a guy did that to my nsx I would of called the cops, take down his plates and asked him to stay. Maybe even think about about repainting my car championship white. I would only resort to violence or fight to defend my friends and family from imminent danger. I use to love getting into fights and thought nothing of it but the more I train the calmer I become, I have walked away from quite a few fights I could of dominated. Just walk away because you never know if the other person has a knife or a gun, things can get ugly really fast.

This.

Imagine your the kid and it is your day in court- how do you explain what you did? It wasn't self defense- for self defense you have to prove your application of force was reasonable to establish your safety.

Even if the Vet spit on this guy, or "put hands on him" it doesn't justify the application of force- especially when there is a video of the "attacker" being contrite while the "defender" taunts, and berates him.

Over what? A car? What jury is going to see justice in that?

This was a clear cut case of assault. How stupid can you be? (both parties)

As has been said- 2 wrongs don't make a right- and even though I abhor the idea of someone defacing someone elses car for ANY reason, I think the kid who made the video is the more guilty party here. Any court will see that.
 
And the sad part is the (real) victim (car owner) might go to jail for beating him up :confused:

I personally feel the ex vet got what he deserved! JMHO

This might be a little difficult to say. It's probably going to come down to a "he did this first, no he did this first" police report if there were no credible witnesses.

The vet looked like a racist skin head. Fit the bill pretty dam good. State laws may vary but here in California if the racist man did indeed spit and then lay his hands on the EVO owner first then that is assault - twice and grounds to defend oneself in preservation of life and limb.

Since when did 2 wrongs make a right :cool:? They were both wrong.

As I mentioned above, if the racist did indeed spit and lay his hands on the EVO owner, and the owner acted in self defense then I can't see how he is in the wrong. Sure he said a few words, but that's understandable from the heat of the moment and won't land him in jail for the words. We're in the USA not China.

I feel bad for the older guy, he must be lost. He seems to be one of those people who can't live a normal life again after serving in the military. He did the right thing by appologizing, if he only paid for the damages I would ask him if there is anything I can do to help him feel/get better.

yep. not winners here.

Within the story, it was later discovered he recent laid off from his job at GM.

Maybe the guy did lose it.

I made a thread where Asians make more than whites and other races. I'm sure the racist didn't get his college degree after the military which created his own ceiling for success.

I think the guy that beat up the vet is wrong, when you know that you can oppose your will on a person you should restrain from resorting to violence or fighting. Be the bigger man and back away and call the cops and they will take care of things. It's only a car and that's what insurance is for. I'm not saying the vet is in the right because he was absolutely wrong for defacing a persons car and those remarks are abhorrent.

If a guy did that to my nsx I would of called the cops, take down his plates and asked him to stay. Maybe even think about about repainting my car championship white. I would only resort to violence or fight to defend my friends and family from imminent danger. I use to love getting into fights and thought nothing of it but the more I train the calmer I become, I have walked away from quite a few fights I could of dominated. Just walk away because you never know if the other person has a knife or a gun, things can get ugly really fast.

The Vet was the bigger guy. And looked fuglier and scarier. His skin-head appearance won't do him very well in court when the multi-race jury sees just how scary he looks. Sure there will be "evidence" presented, but the jurors are human too and will feel the chills down their backs when they see a skin-head in 3D.

The key here is that the Vet allegedly assaulted the EVO first. and the EVO acted in self defense. I don't see it as a more solid case for the EVO guy's favor so far.

Some lawyer is ordering a new NSX as we speak...

Best line in here so far......
 
WOW that is awesome. I would have done the same thing.

My car is a japanese car but I am still american.

I do not know Bruce Lee but I wish I did

I wonder what the owner of the EVO did to the guy like Kung-Fu
or Karate? I would have loved to see the owner in mid air with a kick to the guys Face. that would have been....

Guy buys paint with Vet discount at the BX 2.99
Guy sprays a Japanese made car damages pass 1500.00
Owner catches Vet in act kisks his ass Priceless
 
This.

Imagine your the kid and it is your day in court- how do you explain what you did? It wasn't self defense- for self defense you have to prove your application of force was reasonable to establish your safety.

Even if the Vet spit on this guy, or "put hands on him" it doesn't justify the application of force- especially when there is a video of the "attacker" being contrite while the "defender" taunts, and berates him.

Over what? A car? What jury is going to see justice in that?

This was a clear cut case of assault. How stupid can you be? (both parties)

As has been said- 2 wrongs don't make a right- and even though I abhor the idea of someone defacing someone elses car for ANY reason, I think the kid who made the video is the more guilty party here. Any court will see that.

Which state did this event occur?

Here in Cali spitting is a form of assault that falls under "Application of force"


"Application of force" means any touch…no matter how slight…if the touch is done in an angry, harmful, or even offensive manner.

The contact can be through one’s clothing or even indirectly through an object or another person. The physical contact doesn’t have to result in any pain or injury. Simply "spitting" on another would suffice.

It bears repeating that California assault law does not require that you actually make physical contact with another person. All that is necessary is that you have the intent and ability to injure that individual.

Example: You took a swing at BATMANs, but missed because BATMANs"ducked". Even though there was no contact, prosecutors could still charge You with Penal Code 240 PC assault. If BATMANs hadn’t ducked, Your act of "swinging" would have likely resulted in an injury.

img-battery-chart.jpg
 
WOW that is awesome. I would have done the same thing.

My car is a japanese car but I am still american.

I do not know Bruce Lee but I wish I did

I wonder what the owner of the EVO did to the guy like Kung-Fu
or Karate? I would have loved to see the owner in mid air with a kick to the guys Face. that would have been....

Guy buys paint with Vet discount at the BX 2.99
Guy sprays a Japanese made car damages pass 1500.00
Owner catches Vet in act kisks his ass Priceless

The bright side is that the kid gets a BATMANs-grade pressure wash, full clay bar, Zaino ZP-C, ZAIO, Z2 and Z8 detail work and the EVO looks better than it really does.
 
Very well said. This kid is a douche. I have no doubt in my mind that he will get his ass seriously beat in the near future with an attitude like that. The Vet was wrong and admitted his mistake and accepted responsibility. That kid needs to learn to respect people and keep things in perspective.

respect people who vandalize your property and spit on you!?? You have got to be kidding! So after someone vandalizes your property and spits on you its all good after he says he is sorry??

OK....I will give you that beating his ass may have not been the best thing but why do you need to show him any respect??
 
We have some very self-righteous people on here!!

We only saw the aftermath of the incident with the vet's bloody face, so it's easy to have some sympathy for the guy. We don't really know what went on before that. If the owner of the Evo is a 3 foot midget Asian woman, I bet the vet wouldn't be apologizing and took "responsibility"!!

I guess the vet met his match, just like the mugger met his match on the other thread and got their asses handed to them.

respect people who vandalize your property and spit on you!?? You have got to be kidding! So after someone vandalizes your property and spits on you its all good after he says he is sorry??

OK....I will give you that beating his ass may have not been the best thing but why do you need to show him any respect??
 
Neither party deserves any respect for what occurred. If anything, I agree with the following sentiment:

Racist asshole ran into a pair of homophobic assholes. He spray painted his views onto the homophobes' car, they beat him to the point of breaking bones and then videotaped the aftermath while standing around and calling him a faggot bitch. Throw 'em all in jail and toss the key away, nothing of value would be lost.
 
Most reasonable post in this thread.

Neither party deserves any respect for what occurred. If anything, I agree with the following sentiment:

Racist asshole ran into a pair of homophobic assholes. He spray painted his views onto the homophobes' car, they beat him to the point of breaking bones and then videotaped the aftermath while standing around and calling him a faggot bitch. Throw 'em all in jail and toss the key away, nothing of value would be lost.
 
Throw 'em all in jail and toss the key away, nothing of value would be lost.

Except more tax payer dollars on worthless petty crimes. :rolleyes: I think we should be allowed to have sanctioned fights in lieu of a court date. This country is trial crazy. Like I said, I think this ended the best way possible. I hope it never sees a court date.
 
Neither party deserves any respect for what occurred. If anything, I agree with the following sentiment:

Racist asshole ran into a pair of homophobic assholes. He spray painted his views onto the homophobes' car, they beat him to the point of breaking bones and then videotaped the aftermath while standing around and calling him a faggot bitch. Throw 'em all in jail and toss the key away, nothing of value would be lost.
How are they homophobic assholes?
 
How are they homophobic assholes?

He is making reference to the words, "faggot" this and that emitting from his oral orifice and after being washed through his vocal cords.

I can understand that at the heat of the moment these were choice words from his social upbringing.
 
We have some very self-righteous people on here!!



I'm not self righteous but those comments about being attacked are comments to protect his own ass. Why would a drunk vet want to really fight 2 guys, I don't care who you are fighting 2 guys is not smart but then again painting a persons car is not either. I'm just saying that if it's not worth fighting then walk away if you're put in danger go ape shit and really do damage. Then apologize to the guy, that's the biggest shame ever. To have your ass kicked and then apologize too, why because the guy that's apologizing is basically saying that he can whoop your ass anytime and that he's sorry he had to lay it down in you.
 
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We were all that young once. Testosterone plays a big part IMO.

Testosterone effects guys differently.

More I have the more hornier I am. I'm a lover, not a fighter.

Someone's gotta replenish the human's that perish from violence.

I guess I'll volunteer.
 
This reminds me of the case back in the 80s where a criminal broke into someones house and when the homeowner beat his a$$ as he said he was leaving their home (didn't know anyone was home) he criminal was able to sue the homeowners (insurance) and WON!!!

This is the problem with our legal system....most of us on here are looking at the fact that the car owners' degree of violence exceeded the level of the initial crime...this is how criminals are finding legal loopholes in order to exploit our legal system. (Not saying this is what will happen)

I think we are all getting caught up with the fact that this guy is a "vet" and not a person who committed a crime. I am not justifying the car owners behavior.

We need to look at this guy as a criminal....same as if he was wearing baggy pants or a hoodie.
 
the vet was saying he was sorry to avoid calling the cops.

and in the heat of battle you say things
 
Are any of you a Saint? What would Jesus do? Slap me on one side and let him slap me on the other side too?
 
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