R34's and S15 seized!

Interesting...

As a local, I wonder if you know my shaggy hippy looking friend with the 32 and 34?

I guess I could be mistaken on his importing methods. I'm not that knowledgable... or maybe those were his cars in the photos and he's really pissed right now. I'll have to give him a call!

How is your '01 coming in legally? (and good luck, I know customs is slooooooooow)
 
Whew. I really wonder what the story is behind these cars. Unless something has very recently changed that I am not aware of, there is absolutely nothing wrong with physically shipping these vehicles here. Driving them on US streets is the only tricky part.

and dealer plates will solve that issue.
 
It's typical social discrimination that we see so often in this country. Street racing is a sub culture, and cops hate it. So they go after them. The street racing community can't really fight it because most of them aren't high level members of our community.

If you're talking on a cell phone or eating a burger while driving, you have just as much/if not more of causing a serious accident. Lets see them start crushing BMW's and Mercedes of weather upper class lawyers, doctors, trophy wifes, etc and see what happens.

Pretty sad. I'm in the latter group and I can honestly say that I get special treatment.

(Well, I should say that I *used* to get special treatment.. I probably shouldn't say anything! lol :P)

are you a trophy wife? pics or ban!!:biggrin:
 
This whole thing reminds me of the G wagon and the guy in Arizona who was importing them and selling them for huge profits. When Mercedes found out they found a way to import the car themselves and all the people who bought at a huge price up front got hosed by a market flooded with cheap G wagons.
 
I always wondered the real reason why car makers won't sell certain models in the US. They certainly have the $$$$ for crash tests.
 
How is your '01 coming in legally? (and good luck, I know customs is slooooooooow)

Who knows! I'm not too familiar with all the details. I've left that to a friend of mine. Basically you can ship any car here through a registered importer. That's 100% legal. However, the car will never be 100% street legal here. The best you can do is make it 'pull-over' safe (for the most part).
 
its all simple,. CARS MUST BE a Striped frame, nothing from that car can be in the same container, do not ask me to even help with a car, but if you are greedy and stupid leaving a car complete then you are asking for it.............

There is a lot of wrong info on the net about it. there are 3 seperate laws that bascially fall back on mfg - its a simple case if you look at the history wih MBZ / Porsche / Ferrari regarding gray market laws...............

when it comes down to the R34 GTR its something you do not want to touch.....................

see one - enjoy it and walk away.

Kinda like that RHD NA1 NSX that is up in the Washington state.
 
its all simple,. CARS MUST BE a Striped frame, nothing from that car can be in the same container, do not ask me to even help with a car, but if you are greedy and stupid leaving a car complete then you are asking for it.............

Not true if you are going through a Registered Importer.
 
Its different now. If you want one you will have to spend about 10million just to certify the cars again. The one importer on the west coast does not even get involved any more.

btw when was the last time you checked ?

It depends on what you're using the cars for. I don't plan on being on the roads with it often, even though I know some tricks on making a car 'pull-over' safe.

I got my info from NHTSA. They're site seems to be pretty up to date-

www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import

I definitely could be wrong with all of this. I mean sheesh, I still don't have my R34 even though I paid for it a year ago. I'm going the permanant race car route.
 
It depends on what you're using the cars for. I don't plan on being on the roads with it often, even though I know some tricks on making a car 'pull-over' safe.

I got my info from NHTSA. They're site seems to be pretty up to date-

www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import

. I mean sheesh, I still don't have my R34 even though I paid for it a year ago. I'm going the permanant race car route.


I definitely could be wrong with all of this
!) yes, you are and I WOULD NOT post something like you just did.
 
you CANNOT DRIVE A RACE CAR on the street.

With a Show & Display exemption, you can drive a limited number of miles on the street. You get a regular title and registration, and may have to submit odometer reports depending on the state.

with a Race Car, you do NOT GET STATE REGISTRATION that lets you operate it on a highway for even ONE mile per year. you will get absolutely F*CK'd in the ASS.

Lots of correct info has been passed around in this thread, such as the illegality of assembling "kit cars". However, you can purchase a remanufactured kit body from a company such as Kaizo, and build your own kit car, LEGALLY.

Also, it is illegal for anybody who is not an R.I. to import a vehicle, without a bond release. So you can't "just have a car that doesn't conform to FMVSS" sitting in the country and it be OK. It has to be brought in on a bond of non-conformity with a VCP pending, which has to be completed within 6 months of arrival and submitted to the NHTSA (Of course, race car's dont apply to that rule).

GTS and GT-R until 1996 are NOT subject to Show and Display rules because they are still eligible for import. As far as I know, no GTS or GT-R past 1996 has been imported for show & display, even though VCP-17 has been rescinded, and they are not legal for modification to bring them in to conformity.
 
Also, it is illegal for anybody who is not an R.I. to import a vehicle, without a bond release. So you can't "just have a car that doesn't conform to FMVSS" sitting in the country and it be OK. It has to be brought in on a bond of non-conformity with a VCP pending, which has to be completed within 6 months of arrival and submitted to the NHTSA (Of course, race car's dont apply to that rule).


What if you are a RI? Don't you still have to bring the car into compliance?
 
You have to be an RI to bring in any vehicle - for highway use, race use, show & display- but you do NOT have to compliance a race car or show and display. However, show & display still has to meet ALL EPA regs including OBD-II. For that, you have to be an I.C.I.
 
You have to be an RI to bring in any vehicle - for highway use, race use, show & display- but you do NOT have to compliance a race car or show and display. However, show & display still has to meet ALL EPA regs including OBD-II. For that, you have to be an I.C.I.

^^^^,


um, You need a letter from the MFG showing that its a factory race car
also you need to show photos to US customs of the car for approval of the car that its for race use only. Sure you can let people blow smoke up ur*** but having to ship the car back because of lack of info just really sucks.....

good luck with your projects......................
 
^^^^,


um, You need a letter from the MFG showing that its a factory race car
also you need to show photos to US customs of the car for approval of the car that its for race use only. Sure you can let people blow smoke up ur*** but having to ship the car back because of lack of info just really sucks.....

good luck with your projects......................

No, you don't. You need to be an R.I. registered with NHTSA. The cars do NOT NEED TO BE SPECIALLY-PRODUCED RACE CARS.

Now, there is some interesting wording in what NHTSA says about importing race cars and needing the letter. You can only 'temporarily' import such a vehicle under box 7 of the HS-7 form, you have to use box 8 on the HS-7 for a permanent and "declared manufactured intent". What you ACTUALLY have to do is contact NHTSA ahead of time for a waiver letter which is attached to the HS-7 form. This letter gives you five years

The following sets forth the requirements for a vehicle to be imported as a racing vehicle. A vehicle that was originally manufactured as a racing vehicle can be declared as an off-road vehicle under Box 8 on the HS-7 Declaration form that is to be furnished to the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (Customs) at time of importation. Such a vehicle can be permanently imported into the United States. A motor vehicle that was not originally manufactured as a racing vehicle can only be imported on a temporary basis under Box 7 on the HS-7 Declaration form. The importer must obtain a letter of permission from NHTSA to import a vehicle on that basis. To obtain such a letter, the vehicle must be in full racing configuration at the time of importation and lack features associated with safe and practical public road use. Determinations are based on the capability of the vehicle to be used on public roads, not its intended use.




REQUIREMENTS


To import a racing vehicle into the United States on a permanent basis, you must:

Obtain from the vehicle’s original manufacturer a letter stating that the vehicle was originally manufactured as a racing vehicle.

File with Customs, upon entry, an HS-7 Declaration form on which Box 8 is checked, indicating that the vehicle was not manufactured primarily for use on the public roads, and is therefore not a motor vehicle subject to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper, and Theft Protection Standards.

Attach a copy of the manufacturer’s letter to the HS-7 Declaration form that you furnish to Customs.

To import a motor vehicle into the United States on a temporary basis for racing purposes, you must:

Apply to NHTSA for a letter granting you permission to import the vehicle on a temporary basis. For that purpose, you should use the application form posted on this website.

File with Customs, upon entry, an HS-7 Declaration form on which Box 7 is checked, indicating that the motor vehicle does not comply with all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper, and Theft Prevention Standards, but is being imported solely for the purpose of competitive racing events.

Attach a copy of the NHTSA permission letter to the HS-7 Declaration form that you furnish to Customs.

To obtain such a permission letter from NHTSA, you must submit to the agency the following information in the order stated:

1. Importer’s name, address, and daytime phone number.
2. Customs broker’s name, contact, and phone number.
3. Vehicle information (make, model, model year, and VIN or identifying number).
4. A list of the racing features of the vehicle.
5. A list of the features lacking that are needed for use of the vehicle on public roads.
6. Photographs showing the following views: front, rear, side, and interior. Racing features and/or features lacking for on-road use on public roads should be shown in the photographs.
7. The name of the sanctioning body and competition class.
8. Previous race history of the vehicle (if any).
9. Schedule of racing events, including dates and locations where vehicle will compete (if any).
10. Copy of the competition-racing license of the importer (if any).

Permission to import a motor vehicle temporarily is granted in annual increments for up to three years if duty is not paid, or for up to five years if duty is paid. No later than 30 days after the expiration of the period for which permission is granted, the vehicle must be either exported from the United States or destroyed.


RESTRICTION FOR REGISTRATION AND LICENSING


A racing vehicle may not be registered or licensed for on-road use. A vehicle allowed entry for racing purposes cannot subsequently be converted for use on public roads.

RB Motoring, City of Industry CA, brought in two R34's for Igor Sushko to use as the Automotive Forums.com SPEED World Challenge series last year. One of them was a former Super Taikyu car.

(Please don't throw out misinformation in this thread).
 
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Nope... you're thinking of the Z-tune. The above were V-Spec 2 Nur's.

# GT-R V-Spec II Nür - As above V-Spec II + N1 motor, 300 km/h speedo. (only 750 made.)
# GT-R M-Spec Nür - As above M-Spec + N1 motor, 300 km/h speedo. (only 250 made.)
# GT-R NISMO R-tune
# GT-R NISMO Z-tune - 2.8 L (bored and stroked) RB26DETT Z2 twin-turbo I6, 500 PS (368 kW, 540 N m) Z1 and Z2 (Only 20 Made)
 
since there is good info here i have a few questions..

I actually ran into a known importer from canada who was driving an R32 in chicagoland a year ago. He said in canada there were many of them but very few people to work on them.

Anyways...
If we wanted to import a skyline or any other car, would it be easier to have an importer take it in to Canada, then purchase it and drive it to USA and register it.??? The question to is if it was never imported originally to canada if there might be issues?

I just think it would be nice to import a rare RHD nsx to the USA and just wonder if indeed there is a way around it to drive it on the street and track race it.
 
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