Porsche or NSX?
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I own neither but do have my 02 NSX.
Attention would be very significantly greater in the NSX.
Performance would be higher in either Porsche, easily, versus a stock NSX. With some easy mods (supercharger, suspension, etc...) you can make an NSX as fast or faster than either of those stock Porsches if you are up for that.
Ride, Ive been in all of the cars and driven two of them (NSX, PTurbo) and the NSX is more invigorating, IMO, with the 997S being fairly close. The 997S is a wonderful and exciting experience that is, IMO, ahead of the PTurbo.
Id buy a 997S before a 996 PTurbo myself. But if I were buying it today, unsure if I would buy the NSX over a 996 GT3. Check that. I wouldnt. Id buy the GT3. But you're asking about the 997S. I dont think I would buy that one over the 996 GT3 and even though the 997S is a better stock car than the stock NSX, IMO, Id probably get the NSX and mod the hell out of it, just because its a cooler car to own IMO.
So:
996 GT3
NSX modified
997S
996 Turbo
Attention would be very significantly greater in the NSX.
Performance would be higher in either Porsche, easily, versus a stock NSX. With some easy mods (supercharger, suspension, etc...) you can make an NSX as fast or faster than either of those stock Porsches if you are up for that.
Ride, Ive been in all of the cars and driven two of them (NSX, PTurbo) and the NSX is more invigorating, IMO, with the 997S being fairly close. The 997S is a wonderful and exciting experience that is, IMO, ahead of the PTurbo.
Id buy a 997S before a 996 PTurbo myself. But if I were buying it today, unsure if I would buy the NSX over a 996 GT3. Check that. I wouldnt. Id buy the GT3. But you're asking about the 997S. I dont think I would buy that one over the 996 GT3 and even though the 997S is a better stock car than the stock NSX, IMO, Id probably get the NSX and mod the hell out of it, just because its a cooler car to own IMO.
So:
996 GT3
NSX modified
997S
996 Turbo
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I own a ' 05 996TT (tuned by Sharkwerks - GT550 stage 2, full TechArt Kit) and it's scary fast. To my surprise, it's pretty dam reliable and bullet-proof. You can get them for less than half the original MSRP so it's definitely a good bang-4UR-buck.
My opinion: It's a german muscle car that's rather expensive to modify compared to the NSX. But the grin you get with both turbos putting out 550lb/torque with AWD is nothing you can get from the NSX. But it's a pig on the track.
On the other hand, the NSX has a much better "driver feel" (more nimble handling) and connection. Way cheap to modify and gets more attention for sure.
Drive both, buy both (makes a great stable mate).
My opinion: It's a german muscle car that's rather expensive to modify compared to the NSX. But the grin you get with both turbos putting out 550lb/torque with AWD is nothing you can get from the NSX. But it's a pig on the track.
On the other hand, the NSX has a much better "driver feel" (more nimble handling) and connection. Way cheap to modify and gets more attention for sure.
Drive both, buy both (makes a great stable mate).
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IMHO, the NSX has everything you can ask for:
1. Reliability
2. Exotic looks
3. mod friendly
4. great community
5. rare and exclusive
6. performance
7. "fun factor"
Only a couple of major service things such as a water pump, timing belt, and clutch.... other then that.... car is pretty much a DD with normal maintenance. There are plenty of NSX's out there with 100-150k miles! Try doing all of the above with a P-car.
1. Reliability
2. Exotic looks
3. mod friendly
4. great community
5. rare and exclusive
6. performance
7. "fun factor"
Only a couple of major service things such as a water pump, timing belt, and clutch.... other then that.... car is pretty much a DD with normal maintenance. There are plenty of NSX's out there with 100-150k miles! Try doing all of the above with a P-car.
I m not a fan of just bolt ons as they cost alot of money and I can only squeeze out 10-20 HPs. I might be interested in a supercharge or TURBo if available, how much do they cost? how much for labor? How can I find a tuner locally to install it?
The resale value is extremely bad for highly moded cars. the new NSX is suppose to be out in 2010, so I must get rid of the NSX before the new one comes out. In addition, Im concerned about the price as the 02+ NSX can cost between $60,000-65000 with 10k miles. in 2 years it ll drop in price tremendously.
Most likely I will only do suspension and rims and exhaust.
Would you mind telling me how much the turbo stage 2 cost you? compared with the NSX supercharger. what are the price difference and how much HP gain?
Could you compare the NSX with the Boxster/cayman S handling? I heard both cars are similar in its driving characteristics.
I guess I have to goto the next NSX meet and get to ride in a NSX, its so hard to find one because the car is so rare. I saw one on the street last week, it looks very sharp. Loved the way it looks.
I guess it really comes down to either 997, NSX-T, 996 Turbo, maybe even Boxster S
Just a GIAC ECU Flash for around $1200 I believe will gain +100hp versus a new $10K CTSC. After that the cost per hp gets expensive. Boxster/Cayman are good handling cars and more technologically advance compared to our old precious NSX, but I'd rather drive the NSX purely on looks alone.
You should really drive each car. Those who come on here and bash other cars which they have never driven/own are not true car enthusiasts IMHO. Any car on paper will sound impressive until you get in and drive around in it.
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I like the 996 GT3 and the TT is a good daily driver. That said, the 997 is a WAY better car.
Actually I was considering a 993 before the NSX. I would love to have either.
I think the 996/7 are newer platforms and handle/steer as good/better.
I like the fact that I drove my NSX 100 miles today and never saw another one. I think I saw at least a dozen 996/7s.
Actually I was considering a 993 before the NSX. I would love to have either.
I think the 996/7 are newer platforms and handle/steer as good/better.
I like the fact that I drove my NSX 100 miles today and never saw another one. I think I saw at least a dozen 996/7s.
Well I sell Porsches and I own an NSX. They are very different cars in handling, feel and power. I think the 997S is an exceptional car but I have not gone that route simply because it does not seem all that special. Occasionally I park my NSX among the Porsches and what do ya know, there is more discussion and attention paid to the NSX.
Good-luck with this decision...I went through it !!!!
I ended up with a 997S but really miss the exotic feel of the NSX.
Remember every car can be modded to your taste and YES the Porsche seems to be a bit more money to mod but I don't think by much.
A supercharger for the NSX is around $10,500 and the Porsche one is around $12,500.
BUY what you want,they are both awesome cars !
If you decide on a Porsche I would stick to the 997 over the 996.Bodystyle is nicer IMO !
Stacy
PS My goal is to add another NSX next to the Porsche...one day !
I ended up with a 997S but really miss the exotic feel of the NSX.
Remember every car can be modded to your taste and YES the Porsche seems to be a bit more money to mod but I don't think by much.
A supercharger for the NSX is around $10,500 and the Porsche one is around $12,500.
BUY what you want,they are both awesome cars !
If you decide on a Porsche I would stick to the 997 over the 996.Bodystyle is nicer IMO !
Stacy
PS My goal is to add another NSX next to the Porsche...one day !
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I own the NSX, 996T and Boxster S.
If you are looking for something that has great handling but doesn't quite have the kick, then the boxster S is your car. Don't get me wrong, it is a quick car, but compared to the others here, it's a bid slow.
If you want something that is rare, exotic and handles nice, then I would suggest the NSX.
If you want straight line acceleration get the turbo. The turbo just feels heavy to me in the corners. I wish it was rear wheel drive only. That would make a big difference.
If you are looking for something that has great handling but doesn't quite have the kick, then the boxster S is your car. Don't get me wrong, it is a quick car, but compared to the others here, it's a bid slow.
If you want something that is rare, exotic and handles nice, then I would suggest the NSX.
If you want straight line acceleration get the turbo. The turbo just feels heavy to me in the corners. I wish it was rear wheel drive only. That would make a big difference.
Funny timing on this post. My neighbor down the street has a black 996T and we started talking and he wanted to ride in my car. We went for a pretty quick spin, the roads were clear and no traffic, hit some on/off ramps, etc. He then drove mine around the block fairly easy for 10 minutes. He fell in love with the car. He asked if I would sell mine. I chuckled, then realized he was serious. He said he is going to look into buying one. The things he loved about my car were:
1) driving position compared to his
2) sound
3) looks
He said it felt more nimble to him and just as fast as his car. I don't know... it may be. At a stoplight some bikers pulled up and were staring at the engine under the rear glass. Then revving their engines... I get this a lot.
BTW my car is supercharged. You can get the Comptech for around 10K. My exhaust is not stock either. These mods really transform the NSX that has IMO a better chassis than the 996. I would in no way trade my car now for a 996 or a 997. Maybe for a 997 GT3 or TT only.... maybe... Good luck with your decision.
1) driving position compared to his
2) sound
3) looks
He said it felt more nimble to him and just as fast as his car. I don't know... it may be. At a stoplight some bikers pulled up and were staring at the engine under the rear glass. Then revving their engines... I get this a lot.
BTW my car is supercharged. You can get the Comptech for around 10K. My exhaust is not stock either. These mods really transform the NSX that has IMO a better chassis than the 996. I would in no way trade my car now for a 996 or a 997. Maybe for a 997 GT3 or TT only.... maybe... Good luck with your decision.
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I had a 997S for a weekend when it was lauched, and I have to say it was absolutely brilliant. Easy to drive and felt right. Now I had the recent option of a new Cayman S/used 997S or an NSX and honestly the choice was simple.
The NSX is a Honda and will be reliable for ages if you take care of it. I have a colleague who has a 996 C2 and it is often giving him random niggles which shouldn't be occuring as often for a 01 model. Maintenance I am sure, even with the higher cost (over an S2000 for example) of an NSX would be cheaper to maintain than a Porsche.
The main reason I didn't go for one though is that they are so common now (especially here in Dubai) that it isn't even funny. I don't really care of the Porsche is faster, because on regular roads, how fast can you go, or need to go!?
The NSX is rare, beautiful, comfortable, fun to drive and relatively reliable and fast. But if I had the money to have both, well now...
The NSX is a Honda and will be reliable for ages if you take care of it. I have a colleague who has a 996 C2 and it is often giving him random niggles which shouldn't be occuring as often for a 01 model. Maintenance I am sure, even with the higher cost (over an S2000 for example) of an NSX would be cheaper to maintain than a Porsche.
The main reason I didn't go for one though is that they are so common now (especially here in Dubai) that it isn't even funny. I don't really care of the Porsche is faster, because on regular roads, how fast can you go, or need to go!?
The NSX is rare, beautiful, comfortable, fun to drive and relatively reliable and fast. But if I had the money to have both, well now...
Gee, what a surprise! That's the same thing as having Penthouse's Pet Of The Year standing next to a bunch of mad cow afflicted bovines. :smile:
Seems to be the question I've been asking my self for the past while.... I considered plan "A" selling the 996TT for a newer 2005 NSX, but I think my plan "B" will be more fun..As I know I will miss my Porsche......Once my Subaru sells, I'll have enough space next to the P-car for a 91-96 NSX. Then I won't have to come up with an answer to this question....:tongue: ....but really, you need to drive both and make your own choice you're going to get 100's of points of view
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I went from a 2008 997 GT3 to my current 2004 NSX (both are white cars...hehe)
If you are comparing the 996 to 997 body styles definitely get a 997 as it's just way more modern looking and I love the smaller headlights. Speed wise a 996Turbo will be faster but handling wise I love the crispness of the NSX.
I've never owned any Porsche Turbo so I can only speak from a 997 GT3 to a NSX.
here's what I found:
Advantage GT3:
1) FAST car that has gobs of power and phenominal stock exhaust note!
2) Clean and smooth body lines and roomy cabin for any long trip
3) Modern NAVI and cabin interior with suede accents
4) 2008 car so full warranty if you don't mod it too much
5) Track car essentially tamed for the street
Advantage NSX:
1) Costs about $45k less and has much more WOW factor and exotic looks
2) Mid Engine gives a great nimble handling car with good fuel economy
3) Driving position is hard to beat
4) Great aftermarket support and relatively cheap to mod
5) HONDA reliability!
If I could own both, I probably would do it again but for now I can only keep one fun car in the garage.
btw my 2 cents says a 996 or 997 turbo should not be compared to the NSX with the forced induction. I would see a 997 c4s or GT3 vs. the 02+ NSX as a fair comparo.
rick
If you are comparing the 996 to 997 body styles definitely get a 997 as it's just way more modern looking and I love the smaller headlights. Speed wise a 996Turbo will be faster but handling wise I love the crispness of the NSX.
I've never owned any Porsche Turbo so I can only speak from a 997 GT3 to a NSX.
here's what I found:
Advantage GT3:
1) FAST car that has gobs of power and phenominal stock exhaust note!
2) Clean and smooth body lines and roomy cabin for any long trip
3) Modern NAVI and cabin interior with suede accents
4) 2008 car so full warranty if you don't mod it too much
5) Track car essentially tamed for the street
Advantage NSX:
1) Costs about $45k less and has much more WOW factor and exotic looks
2) Mid Engine gives a great nimble handling car with good fuel economy
3) Driving position is hard to beat
4) Great aftermarket support and relatively cheap to mod
5) HONDA reliability!
If I could own both, I probably would do it again but for now I can only keep one fun car in the garage.
btw my 2 cents says a 996 or 997 turbo should not be compared to the NSX with the forced induction. I would see a 997 c4s or GT3 vs. the 02+ NSX as a fair comparo.
rick
Greetings
Go out and rent the Porsche that you are interested in purchasing. Drive it for a day without any sales person in the car with you. Take notes and be honest with yourself. If it is the best car, then buy it. I rented a Ferrari and a Lamborghini -- that is why I did not buy either one.
Someone here on prime was renting out their NSX -- cheaper to.
Cheers,
Martin
Go out and rent the Porsche that you are interested in purchasing. Drive it for a day without any sales person in the car with you. Take notes and be honest with yourself. If it is the best car, then buy it. I rented a Ferrari and a Lamborghini -- that is why I did not buy either one.
Someone here on prime was renting out their NSX -- cheaper to.
Cheers,
Martin
Waiting for "ss mugen" to chime in. He went from an NSX (NA1) to a 996 turbo. Sweet ride but I'd rather have the NSX.
I would go for a NSX.
I owned an NSX for 6 years and now own a 996 GT3. As Biobanker and Stacy said they are completely different. I agree with everything said here.
Here's what I'd add. The turbo Porsches don't add anything to the driving dynamic of a Porsche except for speed, and the turbos change the character of the car. Many Porschefiles prefer the NA cars over the turbos. Turbos are very, very fast though. They are also 4 wheel drive, heavier and eat brakes and tires if you're going to the track.
A 997 C2S would be my everyday street Porsche choice. I think it's superior to the GT3 for cruising. (I know you aren't looking at GT3s, but they are monsters of performance, they tell the driver exactly what they are doing, and resale is instant and superb).
NSXs are very easy to buy, harder to sell. Porsches are everywhere, and depending on the model easier to sell. There is a glut of 996s around though, so beware of resale when making your choice.
PS. (and many readers won't like this) The Cayman S and the NSX are very similar in design philosophy and performance. I understand that a Cayman S is one of the best handling cars out there now, very comparable to the NSX. The driving position of the NSX is unique though.
Drive all the cars you're looking at. They are as different as cats and dogs. you'll like them all, but buy the one you love.
Here's what I'd add. The turbo Porsches don't add anything to the driving dynamic of a Porsche except for speed, and the turbos change the character of the car. Many Porschefiles prefer the NA cars over the turbos. Turbos are very, very fast though. They are also 4 wheel drive, heavier and eat brakes and tires if you're going to the track.
A 997 C2S would be my everyday street Porsche choice. I think it's superior to the GT3 for cruising. (I know you aren't looking at GT3s, but they are monsters of performance, they tell the driver exactly what they are doing, and resale is instant and superb).
NSXs are very easy to buy, harder to sell. Porsches are everywhere, and depending on the model easier to sell. There is a glut of 996s around though, so beware of resale when making your choice.
PS. (and many readers won't like this) The Cayman S and the NSX are very similar in design philosophy and performance. I understand that a Cayman S is one of the best handling cars out there now, very comparable to the NSX. The driving position of the NSX is unique though.
Drive all the cars you're looking at. They are as different as cats and dogs. you'll like them all, but buy the one you love.
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If attention is your thing, get a Gallardo. Seriously, the 997S is a terrific car, I do not own one but have owned more than 10 carrera coupes over the years, the last being a 993 C4S. I also owned an '01 NSX-T which I just loved. IMO the NSX exceeds the Porsche in all aspect except HP. I also appreciated that I only saw maybe one or two NSXs in a week, compared two or three carreras a block where I live. Also the P-cars take a pretty serious depreciation hit.
Question are you asking the same questions on the P boards too?
Most of us, correct that ALL of us will give you biased opinions. Go test drive them Back to Back and make your own conclusions.
Personally- If all out speed isn't your priority then I would go with a 997S to the 997TT. Spend a day with the interior of the 996 and you won't want it.
1. Speed: 997S.
2. Handling: 997S.
3. Steering: 997S.
4. Ride quality: NSX.
5. Attention getter: NSX.
The Porsche is truely an every day sporstcar. It has plenty of room, you sit somewhat high up and upright. The NSX on the other hand is exotic styling with everyday reliability.
Personally- If all out speed isn't your priority then I would go with a 997S to the 997TT. Spend a day with the interior of the 996 and you won't want it.
1. Speed: 997S.
2. Handling: 997S.
3. Steering: 997S.
4. Ride quality: NSX.
5. Attention getter: NSX.
The Porsche is truely an every day sporstcar. It has plenty of room, you sit somewhat high up and upright. The NSX on the other hand is exotic styling with everyday reliability.
I'll update my comment way above to say that Ive now driven (for about an hour) a 996 GT3. Its SWBATTEs new car.
It ROCKED MY SCHIZOCKS.
NSX FORSALE!
J/K, but seriously, what an awesome maching that 996 GT3 is. By far the best of the 996 line up IMO. Its crazy hot. Porn star hot. Our NSXs are supermodel hot; 996 GT3s are PORN STARS.
Which sounds more fun to you?
If you have not considered one of those, you really should; at least give it a drive. My NSX is a track rat so I didnt find the GT3 more raw than my car, but be prepared for one bad ass ride. This GT3 was so responsive. When I turned the wheel, the outside wheels squatted and it was like the car was leaning against a wall. When I hit the gas, that NA engine roared like a banshee. Speed wise I bet it is not much different than my CTSCd NSX, but this car was stock as good, possibly better, than my FrankeNSX, or so Sean calls it. I LOVED its clutch. My NSX clutch felt wimpy after. I ordered an RPS immediately after.
On the other hand, when Sean was driving my car, the view of it from that GT3 was crazy. Man, NSXs are hot looking cars. Too bad you have to do so much to them to bring them up to modern performance standards.
It ROCKED MY SCHIZOCKS.
NSX FORSALE!
J/K, but seriously, what an awesome maching that 996 GT3 is. By far the best of the 996 line up IMO. Its crazy hot. Porn star hot. Our NSXs are supermodel hot; 996 GT3s are PORN STARS.
Which sounds more fun to you?
If you have not considered one of those, you really should; at least give it a drive. My NSX is a track rat so I didnt find the GT3 more raw than my car, but be prepared for one bad ass ride. This GT3 was so responsive. When I turned the wheel, the outside wheels squatted and it was like the car was leaning against a wall. When I hit the gas, that NA engine roared like a banshee. Speed wise I bet it is not much different than my CTSCd NSX, but this car was stock as good, possibly better, than my FrankeNSX, or so Sean calls it. I LOVED its clutch. My NSX clutch felt wimpy after. I ordered an RPS immediately after.
On the other hand, when Sean was driving my car, the view of it from that GT3 was crazy. Man, NSXs are hot looking cars. Too bad you have to do so much to them to bring them up to modern performance standards.
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