Anyone using the Phantom II radar jammer with success ? I hear it is better than the Valentine One's ?
any feedback would be greatly appreciated
nsxsimon
any feedback would be greatly appreciated
nsxsimon
PHANTOM II or V1 ?
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V1 is an awesome detector, but I didn't know they made a jammer.
Valentine Research does not make a radar jammer. Radar jammers are illegal in the United States.
Radar jammers are illegal in the United States.
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Where in United States Law (article#,reference#etc.)did you read that?
I would like to see your reference please ,assuming you are correct,I'm sure that you have this information ready to post for everyone.I would assume that your upcoming post would also list ALL states this law applies to.
It is not illigal to emit the " mysterious red light" that just so happens to jam these guns and even then this would need to be proven (jammers can be punched through at 200 ft or better)and further is the jammer ticket (if enforcable) exeed the risk of ticket on open highway at high speed???
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Prevoius post:
Where in United States Law (article#,reference#etc.)did you read that?
I would like to see your reference please ,assuming you are correct,I'm sure that you have this information ready to post for everyone.I would assume that your upcoming post would also list ALL states this law applies to.
It is not illigal to emit the " mysterious red light" that just so happens to jam these guns and even then this would need to be proven (jammers can be punched through at 200 ft or better)and further is the jammer ticket (if enforcable) exeed the risk of ticket on open highway at high speed???
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Heres were I got my jammer and info.....
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
1. Are the radar jammers you sell undetectable?
* Yes, they are undetectable. Radar guns will come up blank when trying to gauge your speed. If you have ever used a radar detector you will know this happens a lot with them. They will keep trying to take a reading. This will give you plenty of time to adjust your speed.
2. Can your speed be taken from the side?
* No, a radar reading can not be taken from the side of the vehicle.
3. Do radar jammers cover 360 degrees around you?
* No, they will only cover a 180 degrees in one direction. 95% of the time radar will be taken from the front of the vehicle so you will not need anymore then that. The Black Widow jammer does cover both the front and back.
4. Does a radar jammer let you know that you are getting hit?
* The Phantom II is a jammer and a detector so it will let you know if you are getting hit with radar. The Phazer II and the Black Widow are jammers and will not alert you to radar. It is always best to use a radar detector along with a jammer this combo will give you the most time to adjust your speed accordingly.
5. Where should jammers go in my car?
* You will want to put the Phazer II and the Phantom II in the center of your windshield near the bottom. Both units come with a windshield mount.
6. Now that I have a jammer can I go speeding around all over?
* Absolutely not, if you are breaking the law by speeding you will get a ticket. Police have a trained eye to roughly judge your speed and will nail you if you are obviously speeding down the road. A radar jammer and detector are designed to give you more then enough time to adjust your speed when you come within radar.
7. What is "punch-thru"?
* As you get closer to the radar detector the signal gets stronger and your vehicle has more area for the gun to bounce off of. So as you get closer to the gun it?s easier for a signal to get past the jammer. Again this is why a radar jammer and detector are designed to give you more then enough time to adjust your speed when you come within radar.
8. Are the radar jammers legal in all states?
* The radar jammers are legal in all 50 states except for California, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Virginia and Washington DC. The radar jammers are also legal in Canada and many foreign countries where detectors are allowed. Radar Jammers are not legal in commercial vehicles in most states. Use caution in these states when using a radar jammer.
9. Can I test the radar jammer on roadside trailer radars?
* The trailers you see on the side of the road that show your speed are not legal to write tickets with. They do not contain the sophisticated sampling computers that are in police radar guns. Since our units confuse the computer and there is none, they will not work reliably against trailers.
10. How are radar jammers legal?
* There are no laws limiting the transmission of light! The Phazer, Black widow, and Phantom II radar jammers all comply with all federal regulations. Part 15 of the FCC code regulates consumer products which may transmit or leak radio frequency energy into the atmosphere. Since the radar jammers are not a transmitters, we can disregard the sections on transmitters.
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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
1. Are the radar jammers you sell undetectable?
* Yes, they are undetectable. Radar guns will come up blank when trying to gauge your speed. If you have ever used a radar detector you will know this happens a lot with them. They will keep trying to take a reading. This will give you plenty of time to adjust your speed.
2. Can your speed be taken from the side?
* No, a radar reading can not be taken from the side of the vehicle.
3. Do radar jammers cover 360 degrees around you?
* No, they will only cover a 180 degrees in one direction. 95% of the time radar will be taken from the front of the vehicle so you will not need anymore then that. The Black Widow jammer does cover both the front and back.
4. Does a radar jammer let you know that you are getting hit?
* The Phantom II is a jammer and a detector so it will let you know if you are getting hit with radar. The Phazer II and the Black Widow are jammers and will not alert you to radar. It is always best to use a radar detector along with a jammer this combo will give you the most time to adjust your speed accordingly.
5. Where should jammers go in my car?
* You will want to put the Phazer II and the Phantom II in the center of your windshield near the bottom. Both units come with a windshield mount.
6. Now that I have a jammer can I go speeding around all over?
* Absolutely not, if you are breaking the law by speeding you will get a ticket. Police have a trained eye to roughly judge your speed and will nail you if you are obviously speeding down the road. A radar jammer and detector are designed to give you more then enough time to adjust your speed when you come within radar.
7. What is "punch-thru"?
* As you get closer to the radar detector the signal gets stronger and your vehicle has more area for the gun to bounce off of. So as you get closer to the gun it?s easier for a signal to get past the jammer. Again this is why a radar jammer and detector are designed to give you more then enough time to adjust your speed when you come within radar.
8. Are the radar jammers legal in all states?
* The radar jammers are legal in all 50 states except for California, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Virginia and Washington DC. The radar jammers are also legal in Canada and many foreign countries where detectors are allowed. Radar Jammers are not legal in commercial vehicles in most states. Use caution in these states when using a radar jammer.
9. Can I test the radar jammer on roadside trailer radars?
* The trailers you see on the side of the road that show your speed are not legal to write tickets with. They do not contain the sophisticated sampling computers that are in police radar guns. Since our units confuse the computer and there is none, they will not work reliably against trailers.
10. How are radar jammers legal?
* There are no laws limiting the transmission of light! The Phazer, Black widow, and Phantom II radar jammers all comply with all federal regulations. Part 15 of the FCC code regulates consumer products which may transmit or leak radio frequency energy into the atmosphere. Since the radar jammers are not a transmitters, we can disregard the sections on transmitters.
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LASER jammers are legal in most states and some of them do work fairly well.
RADAR jammers that work are not legal in the US. None of the "passive" jammers work worth anything. You can't block a radio wave with light.
A radar jammer that works needs to emit radio waves, which is illegal. See UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS TENTH CIRCUIT No. 97-9579 ROCKY MOUNTAIN RADAR, INC., Petitioner, v. FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION, Respondent. Or Section 4(i) of the Communications Act of 1934, 47 U.S.C. 154 (i) and 47 C.F.R. 1.115, and 47 C.F.R. 1.41, et. seq. Or Section 15.5 of the Federal Communication Commission's Rules, 47 C.F.R. 15.5
RADAR jammers that work are not legal in the US. None of the "passive" jammers work worth anything. You can't block a radio wave with light.
A radar jammer that works needs to emit radio waves, which is illegal. See UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS TENTH CIRCUIT No. 97-9579 ROCKY MOUNTAIN RADAR, INC., Petitioner, v. FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION, Respondent. Or Section 4(i) of the Communications Act of 1934, 47 U.S.C. 154 (i) and 47 C.F.R. 1.115, and 47 C.F.R. 1.41, et. seq. Or Section 15.5 of the Federal Communication Commission's Rules, 47 C.F.R. 15.5
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I've always wondered about those jammer things. Cars come down the highway all day long, along comes an NSX (at speed) making officer's equipment go all funny. Who would you pull over and hassle? I bet the officer make you jump up and down on it on the side of the road while he laughs at you. And you better be finished smashing it before he starts writing you up.
and further is the jammer ticket (if enforcable) exeed the risk of ticket on open highway at high speed???
My thoughts exactly,and as a matter in fact I have proven that my jammer is "very" effective and works well for me...So I disagree.
I have tested it and it works on instant on/k/ka/etc.The punch through was at 250 ft not 200 as they advertised.We spent 3 hours testing it.And lastly I'd rather get a jammer ticket than my licence revoked for high speed cruising.You need not state your opinion.Thank you much...
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My thoughts exactly,and as a matter in fact I have proven that my jammer is "very" effective and works well for me...So I disagree.
I have tested it and it works on instant on/k/ka/etc.The punch through was at 250 ft not 200 as they advertised.We spent 3 hours testing it.And lastly I'd rather get a jammer ticket than my licence revoked for high speed cruising.You need not state your opinion.Thank you much...
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Car and Driver did extensive testing of the so-called "passive" radar jammers (the ones that don't send out radio signals) and their tests showed that they are worthless.
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Guys, let's put it this way, any radar jammer that you see being openly sold to the public does not work. End of story. They are illegal. You have to build one yourself or buy a kit. Where to get one? I don't know. But I used to work at a 2-way radio shop. The owner was a total nerd and actually made a 500mw k-band radar jammer that really worked. You have to send out at least if not more power than the cops are beaming at you, and on the same frequency to jam their signal. Next time you see a cop with a radar gun, take note of how big the gun is. To make an effective jammer, you need three different sized feedhorns (antennae) -one for each police band radar frequency. It would cost big bucks to make and be ugly. Here's an interesting discussion:
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/29/0157221.shtml?tid=126
The crap (excuse my French) like the Pahntom, or whatever they are called does not actually emit anything useful to us regardless of their claims. If they emit light, they might make a good flashlight. Police Radar (X,K, and Ka Bands) are radio-frequency, not light frequency. This would be like trying to interfere with your FM radio by using a searchlight. It ain't gonna do anything!! If the manufacturers are saying that their "jammers" are legal because they emit only light, than that is probably the one claim that is true. Don't waste your money.
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http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/29/0157221.shtml?tid=126
The crap (excuse my French) like the Pahntom, or whatever they are called does not actually emit anything useful to us regardless of their claims. If they emit light, they might make a good flashlight. Police Radar (X,K, and Ka Bands) are radio-frequency, not light frequency. This would be like trying to interfere with your FM radio by using a searchlight. It ain't gonna do anything!! If the manufacturers are saying that their "jammers" are legal because they emit only light, than that is probably the one claim that is true. Don't waste your money.
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"Kenneth, what is the frequency?"
Light and radio waves are the same thing...just different frequencies.
The so-called radar jammers that use light waves are bogus. You might as well rely on your FM radio to block the radar.
-Jim
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1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
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Light and radio waves are the same thing...just different frequencies.
The so-called radar jammers that use light waves are bogus. You might as well rely on your FM radio to block the radar.
-Jim
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1992 NSX Red/Blk 5 spd #0330
1991 NSX Blk/Blk Auto #3070 (Sold)
1974 Vette 454 4 spd Wht/Blk
Looking for 76-79 Honda Accords
I hereby retract my previous comments (what was I thinking?) Please, please buy one! Tell them I sent you LOL!!!
http://www.007radarjammers.net/affiliate-program.htm
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http://www.007radarjammers.net/affiliate-program.htm
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Please visit these two sites for definitive and objective testing for just about every radar detector and "jammer" out there. www.speedlabs.com www.speedzones.com
S.L.
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S.L.
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Alright, here's my $.02 on electronic warfare.
Active jammers are illegal. As they transmit radio frequencies they are regulated by the FCC and any transmission with the intent of interfering with the operation of other electronic equipment is prohibited. Believe me, the military even has a hard time getting clearance to practice using its jamming equipment. That being said, if you decide to get one of the available black market active jammers (such as the Phantom--NOT the same one that's sold by Rocky Mountain), just be aware that their effectiveness is very limited, due to low power output. The jammer has a small window in which it is effective. Too close and radar gun burns through, too far away and your transmitter is too weak to jam the gun.
Passive jammers are legal as they don't transmit any radio signals, but they are good for jamming tuning forks, not radar guns. They claim to work by adding a chirp to the signal...sorta like a vibrating mirror, so that you get a fuzzy return, but on one magazine review, a Rocky Mountain Radar product actually increased the range at which its speed was detected.
LIDAR or laser jammers are legal in most areas as the FCC does regulate the transmission of light. You'll have to refer to local laws on those as well as passive jammers. Laser jammers from all the reviews I've seen are very effective. However, it's a little known fact that driving with your high beams on also blinds the laser and gave the same results in most tests.
My advice, keep your eyes wide open and don't drive stupid.
Bill
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Active jammers are illegal. As they transmit radio frequencies they are regulated by the FCC and any transmission with the intent of interfering with the operation of other electronic equipment is prohibited. Believe me, the military even has a hard time getting clearance to practice using its jamming equipment. That being said, if you decide to get one of the available black market active jammers (such as the Phantom--NOT the same one that's sold by Rocky Mountain), just be aware that their effectiveness is very limited, due to low power output. The jammer has a small window in which it is effective. Too close and radar gun burns through, too far away and your transmitter is too weak to jam the gun.
Passive jammers are legal as they don't transmit any radio signals, but they are good for jamming tuning forks, not radar guns. They claim to work by adding a chirp to the signal...sorta like a vibrating mirror, so that you get a fuzzy return, but on one magazine review, a Rocky Mountain Radar product actually increased the range at which its speed was detected.
LIDAR or laser jammers are legal in most areas as the FCC does regulate the transmission of light. You'll have to refer to local laws on those as well as passive jammers. Laser jammers from all the reviews I've seen are very effective. However, it's a little known fact that driving with your high beams on also blinds the laser and gave the same results in most tests.
My advice, keep your eyes wide open and don't drive stupid.
Bill
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I don't know too much about technical stuff nor am I good with the Law, all I know is slow down when the radar start beeping and look around for sneaky cops. I apparently do have a built-in K40 (w/ jammers of course), I know they are not great detectors but at least it gives me enough warning. I haven't got a ticket while being gunned at since I do slow down immediately. Whether it's my luck or the works of the jammer, I have no idea. However, this happens quite often so I do have some confidence in K40. After all, they do advertise, "If you ever get a ticket, K40 will pay for it." Too bad it can't bail me out if I got locked up =P <touch wood>
