pedal pads (or move pedals) for heel 'n toe ?

[DCNSX]

I really enjoyed CMP last weekend- would recommend it to anyone in the Southeast- it's a very technical track, short straightaways but a lot of fun. Hard on brakes, but not overly so IMHO.

My instructor said (as have others) that I really HAVE to learn to heel and toe. As this has been my (failed) New Year's resolution for the past two years, it is now time. The problem with the NSX -and my foot with a narrow driving shoe- is that the pedals are too far apart for me. Are there any recommended pedal replacements/pad replacements for heel and toeing or is there a way to move the OEM pedals closer together???

Meanwhile, I'll begin practicing on my RX-8 daily driver (better pedal positions) and take it from there.

 

[Hugh]

AutoVation pdeal covers are exactly what the doctor ordered.

 

[VBNSX]

AutoVation pdeal covers are exactly what the doctor ordered.

x2 I have them also... good stuff

 

[RacerX-21]

I prefer a low cost aluminum pedal addition that I use in all my racecars http://www.imotorgear.com/product.asp?source=&dept_id=2103&pf_id=21030000P046 You will need to remove the rubber pads first and drill some holes, but the rubber pads will cover the holes if you decide to take them off later. I suggest drilling one hole and mounting one screw so that you can rotate and fit what works best for you before drilling the second hole and mounting them permanently.
When you get familiar with the procedure, you will find that even the OE NSX placement is adequate for rev matching.
Practice on the street because on the track it takes too much concentration away from safety… until you get comfortable with it. You will also find that at first it will feel uncoordinated to rev match even know your not hard on the brakes like when tracking, but eventually it will be second nature and you will do it all the time in any manual trans car.

 

[Hugh]

I've you've ever watched any of the Best Motoring videos of Gansan driving the NSX, they use a footwell camera which shows his feet doing their pedal dancing. The driver actually lifts his heel up, swivels it over to the accelerator pedal then presses down. I practice the technique all the time on the street and it's finally becoming second nature. The AutoVation pedal covers definitely helped things. Also, having the right shoes made a big difference. I have size 11 feet and sneakers were just too big. Now I live in Simpson Accelator driving shoes.

 

[DCNSX]

Thanks, guys! Will order some new pedal pads soon. And then: practice, practice, practice.

VB- Hopefully I'll be able to demonstrate my new technique next time we meet up. Nothing on the schedule yet- maybe Ferrari Club @ Summit Point Oct. 24. (Tuesday).

 

[khappucino]

just watch some more episodes of initial D and it'll come to you,
it might help to put a cup of water in a cup holder too :biggrin:

 

[NSXGMS]

Autovation pedals and driving shoes will make you a happy camper. :biggrin:

 

[VBNSX]

Thanks, guys! Will order some new pedal pads soon. And then: practice, practice, practice.

VB- Hopefully I'll be able to demonstrate my new technique next time we meet up. Nothing on the schedule yet- maybe Ferrari Club @ Summit Point Oct. 24. (Tuesday).

One big point of advice I can give is to perhaps practice on your daily driver. I had learned how to do it on my scion tC. The pedals were so far spaced apart that if I could do it on the scion I could EASILY do it on the nsx.

At first when I had heard this advice I thought people were crazy... nope.. they were right.. practice on the daily so it becomes second nature on the track.

good luck,
x

btw... i've postponed on the house due to 'other' factors currently going on. So don't think i forgot ya :smile:

 

[RacerX-21]

Another notable thing to know- Heel toe isn’t always heel toe. Depending on the pedal configuration you sometimes need rotate your foot and use the side of your foot on the gas rather then press your heel onto the gas.

 

[W]

Another notable thing to know- Heel toe isn’t always heel toe. Depending on the pedal configuration you sometimes need rotate your foot and use the side of your foot on the gas rather then press your heel onto the gas.

Strange, I've never used my heel in heel-toe in any car I've driven. It's usually ball of the foot on the brake with the side of the foot towards the ankle on the gas or bottom of the foot by the pinky toe on the gas. Sometimes something a little different on the gas pedal for different pedal heights and distances but I never use the bottom of the heel, maybe side of the heel but rarely.

 

[NSXDreamer2]

I guessed it's relative to the shoes you wear and the size of them too. A guy with a size 6 1/2 driving shoes won't be able to do the ball and toe thing.

For practising purpose: The other thing I would like to point out is that the softer/ less effective the brakes, (or faster the speed you carried) the more you needed to stay your foot on the brake pedals, that gives you more time to modulate the gas.

Because of diffrent car had different clutch engagment point, different torque/hp, brake gas pedal height... everyone, even the most experienced one need to sometime to get used to, and not always be able to do heel n toe flawlessly in legal speed.

nsx is one of the easiest car doing heel n toe in, imo.

 

[Jeff A]

From what I've read, "heel and toe" came from many years ago when cars such as Model T's had their gas pedal as a short pedal between the brake and clutch pedals. Heel and toe really makes sense there. Don't know why the custom became to put the gas pedal on the right. But the "heel and toe" name stuck. Really, it's "ball of foot, right side of foot".

(this is an animation that shows how to heel and toe. If it doesn't animate, turn on "play animations in web pages" in I.E.)

Jeff

 

[Hugh]

Great image. Worth at least 5000 words.