Nsxpo 2004 Hpde ?

[JaySpec7]

Guys... thanks a bunch for the feedback.. I so can't wait for this event.. too bad I could only make it on Monday and Tuesday... my schedule restricts me... No babysitter for my twins on the weekends... so it's rough..

I'm in the process of searching for a helmet... I currently have an Arai motorcycle helmet and aware it's not permiited due to the construction and fire resistant properties...
but was is a good helmet to purchase, I know there is no price to pay on your head... but again, don't want to pay an arm and a leg for one if this is an occasional thing.. (talking about body parts here...LOL) I've heard the Bell M2 and M3 are great but ranging from $300+ Do you guys have any other recommendations... I just want to see my options...

Thanks again guys!!!

Jay

 

[RSO 34]

Helmets are a personal choice depending upon how you like the fit. I use one of the Simpson Bandit series and find it to be more comfortable than my old Bieffe.

http://www.helmetcity.com/page/HC/CTGY/banditseries

 

[nsxtasy]

If you're looking for a helmet for auto racing, I suggest you buy one from a local dealer in your area where you can try one on, to ensure proper fit and comfort.

Two other options:

1. I don't know if NSXPO will require SA rated helmets, or if an M (motorcycle) rated helmet is acceptable.

2. The club has about 7 loaner helmets that will be available at the event. While this sounds great, it's worth noting that these are available on a first-come, first-served basis, and you will be sharing them with those in other run groups. Which means, to be frank about it, you're going to be putting on a helmet that someone else sweated in. You are encouraged to bring and use a balaklava (head sock) for sanitary reasons, but still...

 

[Peter Mills]

Helmet rating

Ken:
We are accepting only SA rated helmets at NSXPO 2004. WGI policy.

 

[nsx1164]

Re: Helmet rating

We are accepting only SA rated helmets at NSXPO 2004. WGI policy.

Are SA95 ones still good for NSXPO ??

 

[Peter Mills]

NSXPO HPDE

Yes, SA95 rated helmet are acceptable.

 

[JaySpec7]

From what I know... SA are rated for 10 years...

SA95 - 1995 - 2005
SA2000 - 2000 - 2010

 

[TigerNSX]

Re: Helmet rating

Ken:
We are accepting only SA rated helmets at NSXPO 2004. WGI policy.

BMWCCA, Audi Quattro Club and PCA allow M95 and M00 rated helmets at WGI. So, are they not supposed to?

 

[Peter Mills]

SA rated helmets

Gentlemen:
I'm in error, Watkins Glen International does not have a helmet policy. SA rated helmets do give additional protection to the most important tool we have...our brain.
The following is direct from the Snell Foundation website:

SA Standard was designed for auto racing while M standard was for motorcycling and other motorsports. ( Autocross could be inserted here, my opinion only) There are three major differences between them:
1. SA standard requires flammability test while the M standard does not;
2. SA standard allows narrower visual field than M standard (Some SA helmets may not be street legal)
3. SA standard has rollbar impact test while M standard does not.

What we do on the track is not much different than racing. Some of us are 7-12 seconds slower than the pole position Porsche at June's GrandAm race at Watkins Glen. That time equates to one second per corner. That's a finger snap. If you hit a hard object during driving school doing 80 MPH does that make the impact less severe because you weren't racing?
I hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.

 

[nsxtasy]

I hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.

It sounds like what you're trying to say is that M rated (M95, M2000) helmets will be allowed at the event, but using one instead of an SA rated helmet might not be a great idea, and will be done only at the risk and liability of the wearer...

 

[Peter Mills]

SA vs M rated helmets

Yes Ken, that's what I'm saying.

 

[the nsxnut]

Another viewpoint...

The Snell foundation M standard is known to be more than adequate for contact with a roof (flat surface); In fact, even the less stringent DOT standard meets that requirement. Roll bars may be a different matter, but that is outside the parameters of this debate... Fire safety is not really relevant, neither, as Nomex fire suits/gloves/shoes are not required.

The typical standard nationwide for DE events permits Snell M95 or later... the hazards at the Glen are not statistically any more dangerous than at other high speed tracks that NSXPO has been to. mid-Ohio, Road Atlanta, Road America, TX Motor Speedway, Infineon, all have walls with scary proximity to the track, and the M standard was acceptable under those circumstances. In fact, statistically, the most common motorsports injury is not head trauma or burns, but whipping neck injuries from sudden decel loads. A SA helmet does not offer any more protection from this type of injury than an M.

As always, there are inherent risks that one must accept to participate in a DE event, however, the Snell M standard has been tested and proven to be more than adequate for this risk category. Competition is a different matter.

I am a big safety advocate, and also a member advocate... it's not necessary for all to rush out and acquire a SA helmet.

 

[nsx1164]

bump... DE starts in two days.
We'll be driving out this weekend.