Nicholas421's nsx makes it to the m3 forum

[NsSeX]

(Q4) How many M3s with S54 engines in total were sold in the US?
(A4) Approximately 28,600 M3s with S54 engines have been sold in the US to date.

Thanks for correcting me on the sales # of the M3's, I need to update my info :biggrin: .

Also, just in case everyone here starts to regard me as the typical arrogant M3 owner :biggrin: I honestly feel that the NSX is a better car no matter the year and someday I'll be back with another NSX.

 

[brahtw8]

I don't know, but in my book a car that can beat another by about 1/2 a second in the 1/4 mile run is pretty solid. The average 1/4 for the M3 is about 13.2 (some quicker some tad slower). The average for the 91-96 nsx's are bout 13.6 that is without taking into consideration 100-150mph runs. Also the M3 brakes grab so much better than the NSX's. The one major complaint I had when I owned my NSX was that the brakes felt like they didn't have enough stopping power.

I don't dispute that the NSX is a great car nor am I saying the M3 is a better car than the NSX. The NSX is a true sports car where as the M3 is a GT two totally different cars. Why owners of both cars feel that they have to defend and prove their cars is beyond me, just enjoy your damn cars and leave it be for crying out loud.

The early NSX is faster at higher speed than it is at lower speed, as a result of its gearing. The NSX is going to be closer 100-150 than it is 0-100.

Your braking comment is also interesting, given that the US Model E46 M3 got relatively sub-par brakes that warp frequently at track events. It should have come from the factory with the superior Euro two-piece floating rotors that many people retrofit and were standard on the Competition Package M3.

Certainly, the early NSX could benefit from upgraded brakes, but you may want to take a look at a recent poll thread from folks who track their NSXs frequently on the subject of the adequacy of the stock brakes.

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51013

As for owners getting defensive, perhaps using words like 'demolish' has caused them to feel that way? The words we choose are important.

BTW, Mystic Blue is a great color, particularly with a Cinnamon interior.

 

[NsSeX]

The early NSX is faster at higher speed than it is at lower speed, as a result of its gearing. The NSX is going to be closer 100-150 than it is 0-100.

Your braking comment is also interesting, given that the US Model E46 M3 got relatively sub-par brakes that warp frequently at track events. It should have come from the factory with the superior Euro two-piece floating rotors that many people retrofit and were standard on the Competition Package M3.

Certainly, the early NSX could benefit from upgraded brakes, but you may want to take a look at a recent poll thread from folks who track their NSXs frequently on the subject of the adequacy of the stock brakes.

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51013

As for owners getting defensive, perhaps using words like 'demolish' has caused them to feel that way? The words we choose are important.

BTW, Mystic Blue is a great color, particularly with a Cinnamon interior.

:tongue: :biggrin: again I apologize for using that word. I reread my 2nd post and saw my error.
By the way I did see that post. I spend much more time on Prime than I do on the M3 fourm :tongue: . The comment on the brakes was in my own personal experience, and I do agree that the stock m3 brakes are sub-par when compared to the euro brake setup. :wink:

 

[brahtw8]

No worries. Communication by text is rather imperfect and often conducive to argument.

You might also try www.bimmerforums.com for a BMW forum.

I post there from time to time, same ID.

 

[Edgemts]

I dont know what the numbers say but I have a hard time believing my M3 is faster or as fast as an nsx, my first NSX had an exhaust and my M3 is stock but I also just drove another members totally stock '93 at Vir last weekend and it seemed faster than the M3 and I was not hard on the NSX at all. Maybe its just perception but.
The other thing I will say is that I left my m3 at home last weekend because its just not much fun on the track stock, lots of understeer, easy to force into oversteer but the stock suspension and the numb overall feeling just made me no longer want to drive it at the track, granted I sort of feel I wore it out and didnt really want to beat on it anymore after ~ 5 days at Beaverun, Summit Point etc.
To me there is a night and day difference between the two cars
Sporty touring car, sports car.
:smile:

 

[ajnsx]

On this board, is there anyone who DOESN'T own at least one other car

*Looks around and raises hand* :redface:

 

[prova4re]

Anyone notice that Nick is not saying a word on this web site.

He is such a TOOL! :tongue:

 

[Meeyatch1]

Brian is gay....

 

[NsSeX]

I dont know what the numbers say but I have a hard time believing my M3 is faster or as fast as an nsx, my first NSX had an exhaust and my M3 is stock but I also just drove another members totally stock '93 at Vir last weekend and it seemed faster than the M3 and I was not hard on the NSX at all. Maybe its just perception but.
The other thing I will say is that I left my m3 at home last weekend because its just not much fun on the track stock, lots of understeer, easy to force into oversteer but the stock suspension and the numb overall feeling just made me no longer want to drive it at the track, granted I sort of feel I wore it out and didnt really want to beat on it anymore after ~ 5 days at Beaverun, Summit Point etc.
To me there is a night and day difference between the two cars
Sporty touring car, sports car.
:smile:

I noticed that you own a convertible, not a coupe :biggrin: :wink: noticebly slower than a coupe.