Most EXPENSIVE NSX project

1Beastnstl · 3 August 2006

robr said:
First of all, there are many of us who have been around on the NSX mail list (which is still active) prior to ever signing up for Prime. Eventually most of us migrated over here when Lud started it, but I don't really see how length of time you've been on this board is relevant to anything.

Second, the fact that I'm an ex-con (I never really understood that term, once convicted of something, you're always a convict unless you get a pardon, so how does that make one an ex-con) does not devalue the reputation of the NSX as a whole. It doesn't say CON anywhere on my NSX (though I did think about getting the plate NSXCON) and there is no way for anyone to know looking at the NSX that there is a convict driving it. EVEN if there was, it's one example among thousands. My peeve is with the word "BLING". This one person wouldn't devalue the perception of the NSX alone even if he totally blinged the thing out, the issue is that more and more people are starting this trend and I hate it. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. As mentioned, part of the issue is the definition of the word "bling". Shiny engine compartments are not what come to mind when I think "bling" (mine is pretty shiny as well) - when I hear bling, I think hip-hop, ridiculous giant jewelry, diamond and gold teeth, 24" chrome spinners, all of which are ridiculously gaudy.

You don't have to like or appreciate my opinion and that's fine. All of you that know me know I'll help anyone in this community with legitimate questions, I've done it time and time again. The OP here looked and smelled like another troll, so yeah, I laid into him. He still smells like one, there aren't too many people that can say "money is no object" and really mean it. I'm almost certain he isn't one of them. Even those people here that have dropped $50K in mods on their NSX, I'm sure they still ask how much they are spending. I can't imagine anyone here dropped a car off at Factor-X with a blank check and said, "go for it, I don't care what it costs." They are still going to ask about pricing and negotiate and make decisions whether to do this or that based on the quoted price.

ya wanna know what i think YOU smell like?

i guess it really doesn't matter because the people interested in assisting me have shown themselves and its appreciated.

H-carWizKid · 3 August 2006

Let me preface- I was only pointing out that I have been here a long time.
I have been elsewhere too- on the lists as well, and on other sites (NSXSC). I don't mean to diminish your experience, or the respect that you deserve within the community.

I also know why you went to prison, and I thought it was bullshit. If you don't believe me, look into your "farewell" thread.

I don't think your a jerk, but I do wish you would look closely at what is going on here. I will post the following out of respect, and i hope you can see it objectively.

robr said:
My peeve is with the word "BLING". This one person wouldn't devalue the perception of the NSX alone even if he totally blinged the thing out, the issue is that more and more people are starting this trend and I hate it. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. As mentioned, part of the issue is the definition of the word "bling". Shiny engine compartments are not what come to mind when I think "bling" (mine is pretty shiny as well) - when I hear bling, I think hip-hop, ridiculous giant jewelry, diamond and gold teeth, 24" chrome spinners, all of which are ridiculously gaudy.

So your issue is with verbiage, based on your personal definition. OK- but people talk like that. Does that mean that anyone who uses that word means what you are thinking they mean?

robr said:
You don't have to like or appreciate my opinion and that's fine, but it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. All of you that know me know I'll help anyone in this community with legitimate questions, I've done it time and time again.

Yes, and I concur with "those that know you"- I just want you to see you are being overly harsh here.

robr said:
The OP here looked and smelled like another troll,

Really? what does he look like? I haven't seen him. I think you meant

"I interpreted his use of verbiage, and his questions as the inquiries of a Troll"

The thing is; that is YOUR interpretation. I got something else entirely, but then I wasn't applying the same definition of the verbiage...

robr said:
so yeah, I laid into him.

That isn't what he asked for. He asked for an answer to his question. His first few responses reflect that.

robr said:
I'm almost certain he isn't one of them.

Almost certain? You come accross as pretty certain to me...

robr said:
Even those people here that have dropped $50K in mods on their NSX, I'm sure they still ask how much they are spending. I can't imagine anyone here dropped a car off at Factor-X with a blank check and said, "go for it, I don't care what it costs." They are still going to ask about pricing and negotiate and make decisions whether to do this or that based on the quoted price.

you are putting too much into too little.

The guy asked about costs- so guess what? Money IS an object for him. He didn't say "money is no object" until he was defending an attack.

actually he said "Price is not going to be an issue once I get started". I read that a little differently than "Money is no object".

I remember modifying my Integra, and I spent money for things I didn't really have money for- once the modding bug bites you seem to "find" the money- ya know?

Hey man, take care. Please look at what has happened here, rationalize a little. I think you will see you have been a bit harsh.

robr · 3 August 2006

Perhaps I was harsh, if this is a legit poster and not a troll or someone misrepresenting themselves (ala the Z06 kid), or I misinterpreted what was asked, then I apologize.

H-carWizKid · 3 August 2006

NSX-UrbanRyder said:
ya wanna know what i think YOU smell like?

Innappropriate dude. I know you have your blood up, but now that you have an apology, I think we should just de-escalate this deal and get back the the question at hand.

robr is a good guy- let him play nice, you play nice. We all get along...

Cool?

Philip

Midnight_Raven · 3 August 2006

This thread reminds me of the time I posted about what I dreamed to do to my future NSX. I got attacked from all sides from everyone people throwing out claims about me left and right. I bet half the people who judged me think I was long gone, but you know what. I'm still here and still working to my goal. Keep on working to your goal and don't let others affect your decisions.

jmp · 3 August 2006

There is a car being worked on tjhat has $40K in the motor and engine management alone (huge single turbo, intercooler, etc.) that is expected to put out 600+ whp.

Not sure why you ask the question what is the most expensive NSX or who has spent the most overall. If you break down into the components or areas that can be improved, there's a car down here with about $40K worth of motor, which does not include a $5K titanium exhaust, so add that to $45K for the motor. Add custom-made wheels (remember we are looking for the most expensive) -- $6K + expensive tires = $7K. Add custom coilovers and susp stuff = $5K. Custom carbon-fibre body = $10K (make up a number b/c if you want what's the most expensive then you can have everything custom made for you and just make up prices) and so on.

Start off with a 2005 NSX for $80K add all the stuff I mentioned + $65K = $145K and you have your answer to the question what is the most expensive possible NSX.

At that point, go buy a new Ford GT for the same money, and then add a custom body, etc and you are up to $250K and so on...

lowellhigh79 · 3 August 2006

I think the question is an attempt to determine where the "true" end point of modifying on the NSX is. Someone's stage 6 of modifications could easily be another's stage 2. Japanese tuner NSX's are not neccesarily the end point, although there are some nice attempts. "You don't know what you don't know" can be applied to the thread originator or just as easily to all those who respond to this post, including myself. I applaud your efforts to find out!

Regards,

Danny

Hugh · 3 August 2006

jmp said:
At that point, go buy a new Ford GT for the same money, and then add a custom body, etc and you are up to $250K and so on...

A custom body on a Ford GT? Call your dealer and ask for a refund, he sold you a bad batch of crack.

01blacks4 · 3 August 2006

Midnight_Raven said:
This thread reminds me of the time I posted about what I dreamed to do to my future NSX. I got attacked from all sides from everyone people throwing out claims about me left and right. I bet half the people who judged me think I was long gone, but you know what. I'm still here and still working to my goal. Keep on working to your goal and don't let others affect your decisions.

I just want to say that I know I speak outta turn and get a little harsh but the reason is mentioned in the post above.

I also came on here, said I was "looking to buy and NSX, AND TURBO IT" everyone under the sun blasted me...

the same BS the robr was spewing I heard, get the car first, it already has too much power, learn to drive it first, you cant do that, etc,etc,etc. including grow up, and "until you can afford the car, don’t think about a turbo" which kind of made me laugh since NOONE except my wife knows my financial position....

I am glad to see that everyone kissed and made up, hopefully the next guy who is in high school and has an idea to make the nsx better, doesn’t get bashed....he gets some helpful support, which grows into a new, better idea which can actually work.......

marc

rickysals · 4 August 2006

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65965

RyanITV put a little over $60,000 in a brand new 2005 for an NSXR conversion.

I wouldn't ask how much things cost - because the object of modding a car isn't to do as much as possible... it's to make it how you like it.

You should just browse these forums like crazy and see what you can to to an NSX. Then worry about if you can afford it - after you know what you want.

Here are a few examples of where you can go... I don't necessarily like them all - but it helps to know what is possible so you can hone in on what you want.

Check out:
http://scienceofspeed.com
http://www.daliracing.com
FactorX 400, 500 turbo kits are out there also

OH - and if you want bling. This is how you do it so & not look ridicluous

evof575gtc · 4 August 2006

don't mind any of those other guys. theyre just jealous.

please bring $1,000,000 cash.

i will have the motor built and turned longitudinal powered by Toda.
sequential shifter added.
get you a real wide track body and cooling autoclaved multilayer carbon/kevlar by DOME.
or if it is too much for you to handle, Autobacs Secondary Market (ASM)
and entirely new suspension system.

NSXCELERATE · 4 August 2006

when I use the term "bling" it is making fun of something hideous. Bling on a NSX: Chrome non performance related wheels, usually with no lip. Some gold or chrome slip on exhaust tips. Any chrome stick on emblems stating the size of your blingy rims. Chrome fender lips, ok I will stop there,LOL.

nsx2tall · 4 August 2006

01blacks4 said:
Why does he need the car first....

Do you buy the house before you ask about schools in the area...?

Maybe he is seeing how receptive the PUBLIC forums are, and how far he can take the car BEFORE spending the money....

Crap Posts Like that are what keep people down...im sure your a manager or division leader or some person in a position of power, go crap on your subordinates...leave the internet alone....

How my job and my employees got involved in this I'll never know. Read your post a little more carefully next time and stick to the point. And keep your insults to yourself. I neither berated the poster nor made any comment as to his/her personal background. I'm afraid you can't make the same statement.

I'm sure folks on ferrarichat look forward to discussing what you're going to do with your Enzo when you get it. But the fact of the matter is unless you actually own one, no one believes you or cares. They'd be happy to help you find one, or fix one, maybe even help you understand what it takes to own one, but I'm sure that asking them how to turn a ferrari into a lamborghini doesn't play well. Don't give me grief for pointing out the obvious fact that an owner gets more latitude on the forum than someone off the street.

MoogieBoogie · 4 August 2006

01blacks4 said:
Why does he need the car first....

Do you buy the house before you ask about schools in the area...?

I have to disagree.

Asking about the schools in the area before purchasing a house is like asking how comfortable the seats are before purchasing an NSX.

His question would be more along the lines of, "what is the most expensive home improvement project possible?" If you don't have a house to begin with, then your question parallels the kind of questions kids ask about who can win in a fight - Superman or Spiderman.

I share Robr's fear, being a Supra owner as well. It would be really sad if NSXPrime became like Supraforums. Supra owners have managed to deal with these type of questions though - a few of them share their disgust, but most of them look at it as a good thing: the more "tricked out" NSXs there are, the more valuable the clean, stock examples will be in the future.

What's the benefit of arguing about what a person will do with his/her imaginary (at this point) NSX?

Ski_Banker · 4 August 2006

Ko-nsx said:
I agree 100% with peiserg!!!! Urban, ask me anything you want and do a search on stuff you want( Ive done everything except engine mods, but we know them too.) The search is not the best but with some time 95% of the answers to your questions can be found. I had a great start hanging with the STL crew and surrounding states, even when i didn't have one:smile: . Some of my closest friends came from prime(you know who you are).

I have at least 20k in mods and parts alone(NOT INCLUDING LABOR). The stl crew has it all and is very knowledgable, turbo's, s/c's, nitrous, wheels , zanardi's, and loads of track time. You name it, it's been done here. Posting and getting opinions is great, thats how i started and why i like prime.

Just remember don't post dumb PERSONAL attacks like "ski banker" and also, DONT STAY A REGISTERED USER!!!! Again like ski banker. Keep it real. Contribute to the fullest when you get yours i've had a great time so far.

I'm putting the engine from that wrecked Enzo in mine, to make it the "Most EXPENSIVE NSX". Beat that, bitch.

Milton, please, if you are going to quote my username, I only ask that you capitalize the S and B, and put an underscore between the two words, but with no space. Now, I'm gonna have to ask you to move down to the basement, and I'll just take this red Swingline stapler here...

"Keepin' it real"

Ski_Banker · 4 August 2006

peiserg said:
value of your sarcasm to nsx commnity-$0.

value of the help you've given to someone with money to spend and different taste than you- $0.
/QUOTE]

Value of this entire thread - priceless comedy. But, I can't wait to see all his stupid posts in the coming months since he doesn't know dick about the car but is determined to have "the Most EXPENSIVE" one. What a douche.

MonopolyMoneyBags future threads:
"I'm looking at '91-'93 for the BIG PROJECT. What is snapring?"
"Which is better for the BIG PROJECT: SOS 3.8 or Pep Boys Nitrous?"
"BIG PROJECT has faded paint: Zaino or Zymol?"
"Best all around performance 15" tire with greatest treadware?"
"Windows won't roll up? Should I go Dukes of Hazzard style?"
"Loudest exhaust (OEM radio decommissioned temporarily)"

01blacks4 · 4 August 2006

nsx2tall said:
How my job and my employees got involved in this I'll never know. Read your post a little more carefully next time and stick to the point. And keep your insults to yourself. I neither berated the poster nor made any comment as to his/her personal background. I'm afraid you can't make the same statement.

I actually have no idea what you do for a living, I said this because by the tone of your comments, I felt that you are a person who is accustomed to telling people what to do. I am sorry if this offended you. It was not meant to insult you, just to tell you that there is no reason or justification for you to tell this person when and how he can post.

nsx2tall said:
The first step in having silly questions answered in this forum is to buy an NSX. After you buy the NSX then you're welcome to post any silly thing you like (as you can well see by the posts). My advice is for you to accomplish step 1 and then repost your question, you might get better answers.

I am sorry you took the fact that I guessed you are a manager of people as an insult. I feel I was sticking to my point, defending this person I don’t know, because since he doesn’t own the car, no one will talk him seriously. FWIW not everyone felt the question was silly

nsx2tall said:
I'm sure folks on ferrarichat look forward to discussing what you're going to do with your Enzo when you get it. But the fact of the matter is unless you actually own one, no one believes you or cares. They'd be happy to help you find one, or fix one, maybe even help you understand what it takes to own one, but I'm sure that asking them how to turn a ferrari into a lamborghini doesn't play well. Don't give me grief for pointing out the obvious fact that an owner gets more latitude on the forum than someone off the street.

while i agree that and owner does get more latitude than joe blow...i dont agree that it should be that way. I also dont remember reading anywhere in this thread that in OP wanted to change his car into another brand.... he seemed to be asking what the limits of what has already been done. Kinda harmless i feel.
And if I was in the market, for an enzo, I would of course check out Fchat. I would of course ask some questions. Some would probably be naive and ignorant. And I am sure there would be some people on that forum also who would tell me to "GO AWAY UNTILL YOU BUY YOUR MEMBERSHIP VEHICAL". Just like you have said to this person. Some may say it better, meaner, much more polite, but that will be the jist of the comment.

There will also be people who, just as in this case, ARE not wasting bandwidth like you and I, and have spoken to this person, behind the scene. Helped him out. Showed him how cool the community could be, etc, etc ,etc. And I am sure there would be people laughing, just like on here about how dumb this whole mess is.
Also, for the record, I was not giving you grief for pointing out the obvious fact that and owner gets better help. I was giving you grief because you basically told the kid to go away until he buys the car.....

MoogieBoogie said:
I have to disagree.

Asking about the schools in the area before purchasing a house is like asking how comfortable the seats are before purchasing an NSX.

His question would be more along the lines of, "what is the most expensive home improvement project possible?" If you don't have a house to begin with, then your question parallels the kind of questions kids ask about who can win in a fight - Superman or Spiderman.

I share Robr's fear, being a Supra owner as well. It would be really sad if NSXPrime became like Supraforums. Supra owners have managed to deal with these type of questions though - a few of them share their disgust, but most of them look at it as a good thing: the more "tricked out" NSXs there are, the more valuable the clean, stock examples will be in the future.

What's the benefit of arguing about what a person will do with his/her imaginary (at this point) NSX?

Actually how good the schools are one of the top 4 things in the resale price of a house, so it is important. If you are 6'7" like nsx2tall I would imagine how comfortable the seats are would be very important. )I had to edit this as i have just read your other post saying how tall you are.. OMG how do you fit ?)

While I agree I should have maybe used a better analogy, your home improvement one doesn’t work either.

What he did ask, was "I am looking at buying one of the tract home on this street. What has been the most extensive remodel project, and what has been the most expensive."

Doesn’t seem like a silly question to me...he is curious how far everyone else has gone within the community, BEFORE he decides if he wants to me their neighbor.
(I used tract hope to represent that all the homes are the same, just like all nsx's start the same. I was not implying that an NSX is of the same creativity or status as a tract home)

As far as your stock cars growing or holding their values....only to the right buyer...sure you might attract a wider audience. But that doesn’t make it worth more. Just as a modded car is only worth it to someone who wants it like that.

Who cares if he has a car or not...
I am not arguing this point because what he may or may not do with his imaginary car....

I am arguing the point because NOONE HERE KNOWS this guy, he asks a pretty good question....HOW FAR CAN YOU TAKE THIS CAR.....and he gets bashed for it...

Such a simple question...looks how crazy it got...why not just answer the question....

01blacks4 · 4 August 2006

i dont remeber him saying his goal was to have the most expensive one ever...just what was the most expensive project...and how far can you take the car

and from the sounds of it, to some of you, its down to the corner for a full tank of gas

.

SNDSOUL · 4 August 2006

Man this topic went way off course, but to put my 2 cents in for the OP question, I have had 5 different sets of wheels/tires, 4 different body kits, 4 full body off paint jobs, 3 different suspension setups, nitrous(single and dual stage), several stereo setups, 3 different sets of seats, almost all of my panels on my car made out of CF, and now I'm doing a completely new setup-body kit, paint job, hood, headlights, wheels/tires/, twin turbo, BBK, I'm changing almost everything on my car again

I think I have a problem:biggrin: I couldnt really give you an accurate $ figure as to how much I've spent over the last 7 plus years , but if I had to guess it would be somewhere in the 60k-70k range plus the cost of the car

Money flies when youre having fun

:wink: I guess the biggest drag of it all, is that I change stuff on my car so often, I rarely get to drive the damn thing:redface:

Come to NSXPO, you should get plenty of ideas there

Ski_Banker · 4 August 2006

BTW, I don't bash "bling" or "rice" - never have. It's not my preference, but to each his own. I could care less. I'm also new here, which I recognize and consider in all of my posts (whether to a 15 year owner, or a 15 year old kid).

I DO care that people (owners) have a passion for the car in whatever form.

This guy is the type of toolkit that puts prancing stallion badges on a red NSX. No respect. None.

Ski_Banker · 4 August 2006

01blacks4 said:
i dont remeber him saying his goal was to have the most expensive one ever...just what was the most expensive project...and how far can you take the car

and from the sounds of it, to some of you, its down to the corner for a full tank of gas .

You forgot 6 discs in the trunk and a hot blond chick in the passenger seat. :biggrin:

Ski_Banker · 4 August 2006

01blacks4 said:
Such a simple question...looks how crazy it got...why not just answer the question....

I did. "Enzo engine"

the rest is details.

(Oh wait -- that would be like a $400k NSX!!! Isn't that too EXPENSIVE?)

Ski_Banker Titanium Hotline: Lose weight fast! Shed those unwanted aluminum body panels, and hop into something light 'n sexy -- Titanium!!! PM to ask how much it costs! :biggrin:

john@johnhudakracing · 4 August 2006

Hmm.. Not to interupt the battle of the big dawg players @ 8000 posts... but it seems that there are too many people trying to hard to entertain the newbies unquantifiable question.

Obviously if you added all of the mods every active member on nsxprime has done together cumulatively over the past 10 years, it would still pale towards any of the factory backed multi million dollar efforts. Maybe if everyone sold all of their those Cantrell air induction scoops you could get like a steering wheel or something from Team Honda Racing.

Besides, no need for 12 cylinder Ferrari conversions to impress... you mean to tell me no one here has splurged on the diamond encrusted wheels that were on display at the Lexani booth at SEMA for their NSX yet? I'm sure Unique Whips could hook your ride up tight and get you to the top of this thread. Window tint, 5 lugs, and million dollar big dawg project complete.

Midnight_Raven · 4 August 2006

Ski_Banker said:
BTW, I don't bash "bling" or "rice" - never have. It's not my preference, but to each his own. I could care less. I'm also new here, which I recognize and consider in all of my posts (whether to a 15 year owner, or a 15 year old kid).

I DO care that people (owners) have a passion for the car in whatever form.

This guy is the type of toolkit that puts prancing stallion badges on a red NSX. No respect. None.

This has to be the most worthless post I have seen in a long time. You don't know this person yet your still calling him a tool, not respectable, ect. How would you like it if someone right now said this Ski_Banker (spelt it correctly for ya :wink: ) is a Di**! or a Assh***! just because of the harsh attitude you have been showing. Please keep stupid comments, about how you percieve people, out of it unless you have actually met the person.

Ko-nsx · 4 August 2006

Ski_Banker said:
peiserg said:

value of your sarcasm to nsx commnity-$0.

value of the help you've given to someone with money to spend and different taste than you- $0.
/QUOTE]

Value of this entire thread - priceless comedy. But, I can't wait to see all his stupid posts in the coming months since he doesn't know dick about the car but is determined to have "the Most EXPENSIVE" one. What a douche.

MonopolyMoneyBags future threads:
"I'm looking at '91-'93 for the BIG PROJECT. What is snapring?"
"Which is better for the BIG PROJECT: SOS 3.8 or Pep Boys Nitrous?"
"BIG PROJECT has faded paint: Zaino or Zymol?"
"Best all around performance 15" tire with greatest treadware?"
"Windows won't roll up? Should I go Dukes of Hazzard style?"
"Loudest exhaust (OEM radio decommissioned temporarily)"[/QUOTE

For those still reading the thread NSX-Urban ryder is a close friend of mine and has been for years. I referred him to this site to get a little more familiar with the nsx, as i did. Instead of loading me with questions about things, he took my advice and started researching his own questions. Even though he has seen the transformation of my car, i still preached to him to come here and ask questions and do a search about what he needed clarification on.

Every negative assumption various "users" quoted were wrong. Even one useR on prime decided to dig up his history and questioned it's validity(RobR, I sold him the legend). I agree his starting post of having the most expensive nsx, blah, blah was a little misleading and unexperienced in nsxprime memb....user's eyes, he did not deserve to be questioned about made the butt of jokes. If i see "trolling" post on nsxprime, i choose not to answer unless i wanted to make a valid point or had a question. Im not a fan of lambo doors, nor would I make a targa into a coupe, but hey they got cars and i respected the amount of enthusiasm for a 15 year design. I think they look great, just not great for me.

Just because I feel something is out of place or what have you, i don't go on public forums and blast people, as some of the users here did. I believe the homepage is way overdue! But i don't feel a compelling urge to pm Lud and blast him, or publicly blast the site and it's mods for something I don't care for. I get way more out of this site for personal knowledge than looking at the homepage. Myself and some of the other STL members couldn't believe the rash of attacks and stupid uninformed post we saw as we chatted with NSX-Urbanryder on the phone. It is not good practice to assume anything and post until you know the facts. I was embarassed as a car enthusiast, and nsx lover at what i saw and read. Luckily Dave(Nsx-urban ryder) is mature enough to understand immaturity, he's has children of his own.

To the members and all that posted, he wanted to extended his thanks for the newbie filter you put up and offered helpful, creative, SINCERE post. All of us were new to something at one time or another.

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