Matrix Revolutions

Neo,

Thanks for the heads up about your alternate ending version. I must say I approve of that one. :D Never a bad thing having to involve me and the samurai babe.

-Randy
 
FuryNSX said:
Thanks for the heads up about your alternate ending version. I must say I approve of that one. :D Never a bad thing having to involve me and the samurai babe.

Hey Randy,

Matrix IV is already coming out... you wouldn't be starring in it this time??? :D
 

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NeoNSX - your posts are right on.

I have to give you kudos for your analysis and posts. I love the invisible ink as well. Very very smart aussie :cool:
 
NeoNSX said:
Hey Randy,

Matrix IV is already coming out... you wouldn't be starring in it this time??? :D
Yeah, boyee!!! I'm connecting to Fandago.com as we speak and placing my order for Matrix IV Unloaded tickets and also pre-ordering the DVD right now!!!

Nice one there, Neo!!! :D

-Randy
 
I think from the standpoint of a die-hard matrix fan, the movie may have been disappointing, but from my standpoint (a not so huge matrix fan) I thought it was pretty good. Not spectacular like the first and not good like the 2nd, but "ok".

The graphis were AMAZING!! The fight scene with Smith was way over-done but had some amazing special effects (the punch through the rain, the explosions)...following the whole "what happens in the matrix happens in real life because the brain can't seperate the two" or whatever, NEO shoulda been dead about 2 seconds into that fight, but oh well.

The fight scene with the guys standing on the roof and the "trio" on the ground was amazing. In that same scene, they should have had a Porsche on the tow truck (it's where it belongs), but some NSXs in hte parking lot instead of the 911 they had in there!!! :)

Oh and I definetly love the line: "Funny how the pattern of love mirrors the pattern of insanity" ;)

And technically, if this movie does imply as much christian reference and symbolism as its supposed to, then there should be another Matrix...
 
Despite already having very low expectations going in (I was never one of the rabid Matrix fans), I found myself somewhat disappointed with Revolutions...definitely the weakest of the three. For me, the biggest disappointment was the surprising lack of new concepts in the unqiue visual language the Wachowski brothers invented for the other films. It's been a downhill ride since the first one.

Don't get me wrong, the visual effects ARE amazing. Still, the film took a little too long to get to the big battle...and the thin narrative was surprisingly conventional and predictable for a series that initially worked hard to be original and thought provoking.

Bring on Return of the King...
 
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Wow,

I must be the ONLY one that liked all 3 sequels and liked how the movie ended. I understood and could only see the movie ending one or two ways. I understood all the plots of all 3 movies except for the Merovingian character (was he once human?) otherwise it was a great ending to a great trilogy!

How would you have liked to see it end?
(and dont say you would have stopped at the first one)
 
NOwseex's, I agree with you! I loved the trilogy as a whole. After rewatching Matrix: Reloaded, everything makes much more sense.

regards
ravi
 
I had to see Reloaded about 6 times to fully get what was going on...and I still see new stuff....

Any response on who the Merovigian was (is)? Could he have been one of the 1st Neo's? (the Kiss confused the HELL out of me)! I wanna change my loggin to HIM! (HIS wife was HOT AS HELL)

I wonder if people got the ending and if thats why they were dissapointed.....

remember.... " a program can either choose to hang out in the matrix, or return to the source"- The Oracle:D
 
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Merovingian is a program. It's stated that his role is control programs going in and out of the matrix. You might want to consider him as a "software firewall" like that in WinXP, but for the matrix. :D

I didn't mind the re-enactment of 'Jesus Christ' and Neo... i could see that coming, however, it was all the cheesy cliche's, the final words of people dying (come on: people in trauma & shock freak out -- they don't give a lecture :( ) ...and just how the storyline plodded along whenever dialogue was encountered, plus all my numerous reasons listed above. :)
 
i really liked this movie to. i would say the first one is the best, second one the worst and 3rd very close to the first one.

the first one was like finding a diamond in the rough, go in expecting nothing but be wowed by all the 'new' effects and style of storytelling (well not new to me, i watch anime all the time) that the movie had.

undoubtably the 2nd and 3rd had better effects but its hard to get wowed by improvements of the same effect.

i really like how the storyline was finished. they answered all the big questions that the first and second brought, and i thought they were good answers, not just a conclusion for the sake of it.
 
btw someone from another board posted this and i thought its a good explaination for those who did not get a lot of stuff about the matrix. some people vegatate when they watch a movie, i personally enjoy intricate movies as they keep me thinking while im watching. again i dont agree with all this article says but its a good take on most of it (and covers all the obvious points)

"Here we go with the basics.
Zion is real! The Matrix is not.

The Matrix was designed to provide a mental stimulus for the human bodies connected to the machines as a source of power. This is the sixth version of the Matrix. There have been multiple versions of the Matrix because of a flaw in the program (kinda of like Windows). That flaw is giving individuals the ability to choose.

The first Matrix was designed as a perfect uptopia (see pt. I - Smith explains it to Morpheus; pt. II - The Architect explains it again) but humans did not accept it as real so they just kept waking up. It was redesigned to reflect our civilization at it's last stage before it was taken over by the machines (the year 1999).

The Architect's problem with this new design (the anomoly)of the Matrix is that it require individuals to think freely, i.e. choice. It was the Oracle that suggested he redesign the Matrix in this way. But since humans have choices, so must the programs sent to watch over them, i.e. The Agents, thus bringing us the problem that is Mr. Smith. In Reloaded, The Architect continues to speak of the anomoly he is unable to get rid of, which is why at some point, he feels the only solution is to destroy the Matrix and those who are aware of it (the people of Zion) and start from scratch again.

The Oracle says it clearly in Revolutions. Mr. Smith is the result of the anomoly trying to balance itself. Mr. Smith began to think freely (see part I where he is freaking out while interrogating Morpheous) and the result was a negative one. Realize this, he is a similar program to the One so he is far more dangerous than a normal individual who makes bad decisions. Mr. Smith's virus like behavior happened in EVERY VERSION OF THE MATRIX. The result would always lead to the same thing -- a system crash if they didn't quickly reboot the system. The same knee jerk reaction you have when you realize someone has sent you a virus.

The One program was created to solve this problem. But each version of the One ultimately failed. Neo is different, in Reloaded he choose the door that led to Trinity, not the door that RESETS the program. Note: The Architect even noticed that Neo's experience in the Matrix was different than all the rest, realizing he was the first of them to fall in love.

Onto Revolutions:

Neo's choice has changed everything. The system is still threatened by Smith's behavior, so the Oracle makes a new choice; one she has never done before because no version of the One has ever chosen the difficult path as opposed to easy one of just resetting the system. She allows herself to become merged with Smith in the HOPE that she'll be able to help Neo when the time is right.

Neo makes another unique choice. He goes to the machines and asks for PEACE as opposed to simply destroying the system by going through the opposite door as all other versions of the One did. It was a simple as that to save Zion. Machines don't need very long to process that this may be a better idea than just constantly resetting the system.

At the end, Smith says to Neo the movies tagline - "Everything that has a beginning has an end," as the Oracle is speaking to Neo through Smith. Neo realizes it all along, the only way to end this is to sacrifice himself. The Oracle noted that Neo and the Source (the computer mainframe, the Architect they're all one and the same so don't get confused) are connected which is why he can control machines outside the Matrix. He uses this connection to his advantage. He becomes a Mr. Smith and since all the Smith's are connected, the Source now has a lock on Smith and simply deletes him. Pretty simple huh?

For those that like to dig deeper, than note the biblical references throughout the series. Heck, the French Man (Merovigchian) is the Devil, just read the elevator button Morpheous presses when he goes to see him for the second time. The Architect represents God - i.e. the creator of the world and its destroyer whenever things don't go as he wants. He even has you to chose a select group of people to restart Zion again sort of like Noah's Ark. Neo is Jesus, the one who realizes that peace and love is the answer, not war. And the Oracle represents the Holy Spirit - the conciousness that resides in all of us. It's a deep trilogy if you PAY ATTENTION
 
Wow, great post okie! I think I understand and appreciate the story more now. Very cool.
 
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