lotus elise
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Re: nsx vs lotus elise
I disagree. While the Elise is an unbelievable car on the track, it is a very uncomfortable car. Very tight, no creature comforts, and very harsh to ride. The S2K is a great convertible, more comfortable, and very reliable. Both great cars but very different and for different purposes.babydoc said:
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Re: nsx vs lotus elise
Ask your dad to drive the Elise for a three hundred miles trip, see if he still like the car afterwards.
http://www.pistonheads.com/lotus/elise/Default.asp?storyId=6485
babydoc said:
Ask your dad to drive the Elise for a three hundred miles trip, see if he still like the car afterwards.
http://www.pistonheads.com/lotus/elise/Default.asp?storyId=6485
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
solcaldude, you are ahead of me. i am just about to say the same thing
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elise is definitely a track car. if you want creature comfort, nsx is the one.
solcaldude, you are ahead of me. i am just about to say the same thing
.elise is definitely a track car. if you want creature comfort, nsx is the one.
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
I dunno about you guys but...I just think the Elise is fugly. It looks like a very pissed off gnome. When it first became available in the U.S. I thought it was cool looking, now that I've seen a bunch of them...think they're ugly.
I dunno about you guys but...I just think the Elise is fugly. It looks like a very pissed off gnome. When it first became available in the U.S. I thought it was cool looking, now that I've seen a bunch of them...think they're ugly.
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
Just because the Elise has less creature comforts then an NSX, it doesnt make it more of a track car.
I bet NSX beats it.
Just because the Elise has less creature comforts then an NSX, it doesnt make it more of a track car.
I bet NSX beats it.
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
I'm actually sitting in front of my computer laughing! :biggrin: You're right, it does! Still, I really like how the back end of it looks.
paulviriyapan said:
I'm actually sitting in front of my computer laughing! :biggrin: You're right, it does! Still, I really like how the back end of it looks.
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
i don't think it looks right either. but i would take an exige sport :smile: still.... not the best looking car (some angles look a lot better.... the sport exige looks more like a grey than a garden knome like the elise...)
http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-2005-Lotus-Sport-Exige.htm
paulviriyapan said:
i don't think it looks right either. but i would take an exige sport :smile: still.... not the best looking car (some angles look a lot better.... the sport exige looks more like a grey than a garden knome like the elise...)
http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-2005-Lotus-Sport-Exige.htm
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
I've seen a modified Elise (wheels and suspension) and it looked pretty cool.
As far as "Honda should've made the Elise and not the s2k", I think the s2k is a much more refined, better engineered car. Much thought went into that little roadster. The Elise, although nice, IMO is a glorified kit car with an outsourced Toyota motor.
My buddy's got one and complains about build quality. I've never heard of any build quality issues with the s2k.
I've seen a modified Elise (wheels and suspension) and it looked pretty cool.
As far as "Honda should've made the Elise and not the s2k", I think the s2k is a much more refined, better engineered car. Much thought went into that little roadster. The Elise, although nice, IMO is a glorified kit car with an outsourced Toyota motor.
My buddy's got one and complains about build quality. I've never heard of any build quality issues with the s2k.
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
Having driven an Elise, It handles great and is a great track car. Doesn't have any creature comforts and it feels really small, even for me. The low weight really makes it shine, both for handling and acceleration with its low hp motor. One of the "grey market" importers had been bringing them in with the Honda engine but that was before Lotus started importing the car. If I was looking for a track car with some occasional weekend fun, I would consider a lotus elise and then boost the crap out of it for more HP:biggrin: but I definitely couldn't see using it for more than that. Exige would be interesting but having parked the Noble next to the Elise, it made the Noble look BIG so I think that it would be a little tight.
I would say that another alternative to the Elise would be a Noble but it does cost almost twice as much. Noble compared to the NSX, the Noble is better in many ways and worse in some, definitely not as civilized. Kind of like a comparison of Jessica Simpson and Kate Beckinsale, both definitely hot and sexy but outside of the sack, Beckinsale is probably a lot more interesting. As to being a "glorified kit car," who cares? In many ways, the Saleen S7 is a "glorified kit car" since much of the car itself is designed and built in England and it has a glorified Ford motor.
imho Tim
Having driven an Elise, It handles great and is a great track car. Doesn't have any creature comforts and it feels really small, even for me. The low weight really makes it shine, both for handling and acceleration with its low hp motor. One of the "grey market" importers had been bringing them in with the Honda engine but that was before Lotus started importing the car. If I was looking for a track car with some occasional weekend fun, I would consider a lotus elise and then boost the crap out of it for more HP:biggrin: but I definitely couldn't see using it for more than that. Exige would be interesting but having parked the Noble next to the Elise, it made the Noble look BIG so I think that it would be a little tight.
I would say that another alternative to the Elise would be a Noble but it does cost almost twice as much. Noble compared to the NSX, the Noble is better in many ways and worse in some, definitely not as civilized. Kind of like a comparison of Jessica Simpson and Kate Beckinsale, both definitely hot and sexy but outside of the sack, Beckinsale is probably a lot more interesting. As to being a "glorified kit car," who cares? In many ways, the Saleen S7 is a "glorified kit car" since much of the car itself is designed and built in England and it has a glorified Ford motor.
imho Tim
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
Here in Europe you see people driving long distances with Elises.
Your dad is a cool dad.
I like the Elise. And I have driven one 300 miles (S1). With a piece of foam under my butt and ear plugs, it was no problem. And fun.babydoc said:
Here in Europe you see people driving long distances with Elises.
Your dad is a cool dad.
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
Yes. My friend/co-worker has had one for almost a year. I actually talked him into to buying it. I love it but it's just a different type of car from a S2K.babydoc said:
Re: nsx vs lotus elise
I've driven both (own the NSX of course). An elise will out-handle a stock NSX, but with upgraded shocks and springs, my car handles as tightly (and rides as uncomfortably) and the chassis is equally as well suited to track driving as an Elise.
I've driven both (own the NSX of course). An elise will out-handle a stock NSX, but with upgraded shocks and springs, my car handles as tightly (and rides as uncomfortably) and the chassis is equally as well suited to track driving as an Elise.
I love my Elise.
Yes, it doesn't have the creature comforts that my NSX has.
However...
It's faster. More exhilarating. It handles better. Has more predictable handling. I love the open air (although if I had a NSX-T it might be the same) driving. Even drives to the drugstore are a blast.
It's tight but not uncomfortable. And I'm a big guy too (5-11, 250).
It doesn't ride as nicely as the NSX, but after driving the Elise, my NSX feels large and cushy by comparison. I like the minimalist nature of the car.
I do wish Honda would make something along the lines of the Elise. Imagine a small mid-engined sportscar weighing no more than 2200 lbs with the S2000 engine.
-Jim
Yes, it doesn't have the creature comforts that my NSX has.
However...
It's faster. More exhilarating. It handles better. Has more predictable handling. I love the open air (although if I had a NSX-T it might be the same) driving. Even drives to the drugstore are a blast.
It's tight but not uncomfortable. And I'm a big guy too (5-11, 250).
It doesn't ride as nicely as the NSX, but after driving the Elise, my NSX feels large and cushy by comparison. I like the minimalist nature of the car.
I do wish Honda would make something along the lines of the Elise. Imagine a small mid-engined sportscar weighing no more than 2200 lbs with the S2000 engine.
-Jim
Jimbo said:
this statement might affect your credibility... just kidding :smile:
anyway..... if anybody is putting all their hopes and dreams into making their road car an ultimate track car (nsx or other).... good luck....
this is way lighter, way faster, way more fun to drive, and handles way better.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/gixxer+cart/0/A817C862-BFC7-4646-A193-96B2C47B364D.htm
That's true. Although I'm not sure about the $8K discount. $2K-$3K off is commonplace.
There's also a lot of low-mileage used ones available too. I suspect many younger owners find out it's not practical as their only and daily driver.
-Jim
There's also a lot of low-mileage used ones available too. I suspect many younger owners find out it's not practical as their only and daily driver.
-Jim
