Looking for a good R-compound tire

NSXLuvr said:
I have been tracking my car for 2.5 years. I have done 12-14 events in that time span. I am just looking for R compounds this winter for next year. you will suprised at the capabilities of S03's. just make sure your rear pressures are low(30's, not 40 per manual).

***OFF TOPIC***: what rims are you guys using. I am trying to avoid going with SSR's if possible. Also can you go with RA1's on 17/17's?

Thanks

Ritesh

Interesting thought on the lower tire pressure, I've always run factory spec no matter what I was doing. I am actually using SSR's, I haven't found a rim I like visually more than the Integral. Some prodrives look good, but I'm not rolling in money right now and the right deal came along for a second set plus a couple of new rears (of which one of my current ones is bent). So now I have two full sets plus a rear spare.
 
NSXLuvr said:
I have been tracking my car for 2.5 years. I have done 12-14 events in that time span. I am just looking for R compounds this winter for next year. you will suprised at the capabilities of S03's. just make sure your rear pressures are low(30's, not 40 per manual).

***OFF TOPIC***: what rims are you guys using. I am trying to avoid going with SSR's if possible. Also can you go with RA1's on 17/17's?

Thanks

Ritesh

I have the SSR GT1's in 17x8 with 235-40-17's and 17x9 with 275-40-17's and have had no problems with them. Both are a 45 offset and I need a 2mm front spacer the clear the Stoptech's.
 
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I will probably get chewed by Peter again, but I will put in my thought as well on track tire decision.

I guessed if you come across a great deal obtaining track tires, given that you had been driven on the same track and tried to run in the advance groups on street tires, you should be fine start using the R compound. I also waited a full season before I switched to RA1. But it's more because I wear out one of the tires outside prematurely. I was going to flip my street tire side to side, but my tire installer telling me that it's a little bit risky business as he knows I "flied" in my local track, and if the tire blew and I'm in the corner, I'll be done... Anyone else been to my local Track, Pacific Raceway, could confirmed that. ;)

I also seen fair share of people who used R compound too soon, too fast; but then it's all relative, you know some of the new cars ie STi and Elise's OEM tires have grips pretty well closed to R compound's performance.... (and I've seen and heard quite a bit of accidents occured in those cars with newbie)

If you still using OEM brakes or you have extra set of wheels around, the oem 15/16 set up with R compound will be a good choice. (by value). They could be purchased under or around $600. Then depends on the track condition, you could switch them back and forth. I had only tired once by accident, (track organizer invited me to go on the track, while my car is not prepared for track driving at all, ie, full tread street tires, street pad without bleeding... I just went out and enjoyed the ride. Prior that I only driven the RA1 for first time with full tread, and I don't think I was pushing it. Even that I'm not too comfortable driving the street tires already.
 
I guess I should have been more detailed in my questions. I have SSR GT1 17/18's on my car right now. The front 2 wheels are slightly bent. Not enough to make a difference on the track, just cosmetic. So, I was thinking in the off season to get those 2 rims refurbished and use them as my street rims. I would get a set of track rims with RA1's. Its just that SSR rims crack/bend quiet easily. Therefore I was looking for a more durable option but in the same price range.
 
NSXLuvr said:
I guess I should have been more detailed in my questions. I have SSR GT1 17/18's on my car right now. The front 2 wheels are slightly bent. Not enough to make a difference on the track, just cosmetic. So, I was thinking in the off season to get those 2 rims refurbished and use them as my street rims. I would get a set of track rims with RA1's. Its just that SSR rims crack/bend quiet easily. Therefore I was looking for a more durable option but in the same price range.

Are they bending from being on the street or track? I would think street driving would increase the chance of bending a rim. Tracks are smooth (or are supposed to be).
 
I have bent only one front ssr comp in 3 yrs,and that was a big hit that would have bent anything.I don't think the comps are as delicate as say the gt-3's that Mike has been complaining about.
 
comquat1 said:
Are they bending from being on the street or track? I would think street driving would increase the chance of bending a rim. Tracks are smooth (or are supposed to be).

Even @ the track if you ride berms it can be quite bumpy.. (This only applies to those tracks that have berms)
 
comquat1 said:
Are they bending from being on the street or track? I would think street driving would increase the chance of bending a rim. Tracks are smooth (or are supposed to be).

I'm not really sure. I suspect its the track as the berms are made of concrete and can be really bumpy.
 
As most have said, I think you need more track time. I did 30 days before I moved to r-compound.

Time difference from S03 to Toyo RA1 is not much. IMHO it is only about 1 to 2 seconds the most. However, when can you get them is the key. The S03 is best on its first 3 laps, and it will degrade each lap. The RA1 is best on its 3rd lap and has steady performance. Unless it is sticker tires, which the RA1 is best on its first 3 laps by over 1 sec per lap compared to scrubed RA1.
 
My advice is to stay with street tires as long as you can.
They provide progressive feedback "noise" to the driver, you will not get with an R compound tire. S03's provide tuns of feedback. You will be much quicker driving smooth on S03's than not being completly smooth on RA1's.

When you go to RA1's get them shaved.

Later,
Don
 
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