Kroger said:
We can all answer that question as we are in their backyard, depending on your view, and how long you want to turn the clock back.steveny said:
As to my particular case, I view that they are in my back yard because the land is now nothing more than a vaccant overgrown field, where in the past it has been both a golf course and baseball fields.Kroger said:Well the lion is one of africa's big 5. That is the 5 dangerous game animals to hunt. Elephant, Leapord, Lion, Rino and Cape Buffalo. That is still how hunting goes in africa. If you got my PM you know im going to africa this summer instead of the rallys and will be hunting in south africa. But typicall when hunting that type of animal there is only 3 or just you and the PH (professional Hunter). You can tell him that you are the only one to shoot or if something goes wrong or gets a lil crazy he can fire also.
Hunting is not the killing of animals. Its actully preservation of them. Farmers and poachers used to be killing off animals but than they decided that it could be profitable and start to regulate animal shooting. So farmers either became or hired PH's to hunt on their land selling a very limited amout of "tags" to shoot the animals each year. SO not that these animals because of "value" to the farmers they began to protect their land from poachers and other things and begin to care for i.e. lions etc... Because they are profitable. This is effective regulation and also INCREASES growth in the wildlife.
Brian has been to my "africa" petting zoo where animals are all around my house over 30 mounts to be in the ballpark...
The hunters were not really that stupid just unimformed about the dangers... I would have to put money on it that that guy was not an avid hunter just wealthy joe who wanted to kill one. Lion tags are sold out for 3 years. We, father and I are going back myself for the first time and pops for number 4... to get a few random animals and another few key ones giraffe, another leapord and I am going to shoot a cape buffaloeither with a 375 or 415... with solids (bone breakers).
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My contrubution:
T Bell said:
If the animals attack you, carry a side-arm to take em down, or a rifle, but don't kill them just to stick them in your trophy room and say "Look, I spent $20,000 to go hunt this Lion in Africa" 
You coulda supercharged, dropped, reupholstered, and custom everything else'd your NSX for that price! 
I hunt for sport, although not for Lion or such. Like it? I love it. Have you never spent a day in the field with good upland dogs in pursuit of Pheasant or Quail? Have you never shared a duck blind with three good friends watching the magnifigance of a well trained retriever? Ever sat motionless in the woods and had a covey of quail walk over you, all the while in hunt of deer? Is it sport? While I will consume if I choose to harvest, it most certainly is sport. To not consider it sport would mean I have no other means to put food on the table. What about fishing? Sport? It most certainly is for me. Although I practice catch and release 95% of the time, I will occasionally keep some catch. Little and got picked on? Not when younger, and hardley scrawny now. I'm not sure where you get the supreme knowledge to draw the conclusion that sport hunters were scrawny kids that could never kick an ass of their own.Brian2by2 said:So please don't give me the excuse you actually like the hunt. Lets face it: sport hunters were scrawny little kids that got picked on and could never kick an ass of their own, so now they take it out on little animals with big guns
Zuerst said:J. W. Bush should invade and bomb Africa for that they violate various animals' right to life. Those animals have no say in the African political processes. They're murdered and used merely as profits. As Immanuel Kant puts it; one should treat others as ends in themselves and not merely as means. You may say that animals aren't capable of self-legislation, and can't possibly participate in the political processes, but be careful with that because if you head towards that direction you're choosing to traverse on a slippery slope. Some human beings like a new born or the severely retarded can be and probably are less aware of their environment than say a wild turkey. Is it right to say that these individuals (new borns, severely retarded) are fair game and can be shot with a 20 guage shotgun without condemnations? Either we should include or consider animals as beings that deserve equal considerations or that it's just for one to shoot your new born in the head without ramifications...
Ok, it was meant to be a joke but I guess I went a little too far...
autobody tech said:
because i respect nature and hate when people trash it. I hunt not for trophy but for the meat. Dear tastes great and javelina in a soup is too. I see how both sides have there different views and i respect both. I just dont like it when just beacuse i hunt i am labeled anti-nature, anti-animal, anti-earth and above it all somehow a supporter of crime because of guns. I recycle, have drip irrigation for my plants, own pets, love animals and respect the environment. I find hunting enjoyable and way to bond with nature in an innate sense. Keep debating but keep the name calling out of it, it is much more intelligent.
nik3sgte said:
Unfortunatly when emotions take the lead it over-rides logic as its easy to call names b/c you can't defend a position.nik3sgte said:
