) just because of the exhaust.
I assume this "rant" was directed at my earlier post, which obviously you took out of context. Not once did I ever say nor allude to [paraphrased] "the LFA is only (an over-priced) Toyota, it's not worth that much..." or "Toyota/Lexus are making / not making this-that much unless they sell this-that amount..." blah-bla-bha. . .
I assume this "rant" was directed at my earlier post, which obviously you took out of context. Not once did I ever say nor allude to [paraphrased] "the LFA is only (an over-priced) Toyota, it's not worth that much..." or "Toyota/Lexus are making / not making this-that much unless they sell this-that amount..." blah-bla-bha. . .
I believe you (and others) have misinterpreted my curiosity of whether or not Toyota/Lexus was going to use the LF-A technology, R&D, and know-how directly towards other emerging vehicles in their portfolio, and in doing so - some of the development/production costs can be offset/subsidized.
{not directed at anyone in particular...} It's extremely myopic to think that a global automotive giant steeped deep in Japanese tradition/philosophy who is (at the moment) losing billions of dollars, making no profit, losing market-share in key areas/segments, closing-down factories/plants, and laying-off thousands of workers has no financial care nor concern in terms of releasing a halo/hallmark offering for just the sake of Prius-owner prestige.
Although, they may have well truly done that w/ such in mind (pride/bragging), I am just wondering what the big-picture was for Toyota/Lexus in creating/marketing this offering & if it'll pave the way for other neat stuff (hand-assembled ~$125k exotic sports-car w/ extensive use of composites, mass-produced ~$50k sports-car w/ prodigious power & partial composite-construction, variants of the V10 in long-wheelbase exec'-spec LS or LX/Landcruiser or even something for their heavy-duty Tundra light-truck line). . .
Anything/everything is worth what it is as long as there are those out there who are willing to acquire it. . .
Case-&-point, the similarly offered ~$1million+ Aston Martin 77 & Lamborghini Reventon...
You missed my point again, I wasn't referring to you/me/us/we. I was mentioning that something/anything is worth what someone/anyone out there is willing to pay for it. And this is personified w/ the Aston Martin 77 & Lamborghini Reventon which were all pre-sold, and now an even more pricey roadster motif of the Reventon is forthcoming. Meaning, there are individuals out there willing to pay $1-million+ U.S.D. for makes/models that others may otherwise deem over-priced hyperbolic exotic-fleecing. . .Osiris_x11 said:
You missed my point again, I wasn't referring to you/me/us/we. I was mentioning that something/anything is worth what someone/anyone out there is willing to pay for it. And this is personified w/ the Aston Martin 77 & Lamborghini Reventon which were all pre-sold, and now an even more pricey roadster motif of the Reventon is forthcoming. Meaning, there are individuals out there willing to pay $1-million+ U.S.D. for makes/models that others may otherwise deem over-priced hyperbolic exotic-fleecing. . .
I can't make any sense of your analogy, as I never stated nor alluded to what others can afford or not afford!
I just stated that there will be automobiles produced & offered to a select few in society, which may be otherwise deemed over-priced & silly expressions of design & engineering, but the buyers are out there to make such exercises by the manufacturers worthwhile. . .
(it's not Lexus's fault that you & I, and perhaps many others, can't afford the LF-A. Are you blaming Lexus in your analogy that because you can't afford it, it shouldn't be made or be discussed/critiqued?)
Looks...meh. :frown: Not worth the $400K pricetag. (according to the latest motor trend anyway)
2x! Until I saw the recent cover of December 2009's Automobile, I was more-or-less meh about its design/styling. But, that cover-shot truly put into perspective how unique this offering is & perhaps a hint as to its real-life/in-person presence.
I think many of the car-ragz/magz are gonna be all-about #'s in terms of performance in regards what it costs, much like they were in regards to the NSX over the years. But, there may be some intangible & visceral details that can't be put into words/print of which the LF-A will likely be unparalleled in. Seeing the N'ring vids' w/ the F1'esque sounds & the other Youtube clips w/ the innovative instrument-panel & ultra-quick revving V10, the pics w/ the incomparable interior, this Lexus will definitely be a very special offering.Technology wise, wow!
