I just looked at the specs on the JGTC NSXs and they all sporting the 3.0 twin turbo...hmmm I wonder what happens to the NA idea. Maybe the new NSX might have that same idea planned out!
JGTC NSXs Sporting 3.0 Twin Turbo!!!
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96GoldNSX said:
Were they always using twin turbos? Or were they NA? It seemed to me from the little bit of JGTC that I have seen on TV, that they needed a turbo to keep up with the competition.
I believe the GT300 cars are NA and the GT500 cars are F/I. Anyone else know this for sure?
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The links to the GT500 and GT300 teams is below. You can click on the inidividual cars to see a short set of specs for each car.
In looking at the specs, I'd think that neither class is restricted to be NA or FI. For example, some of the MR-S cars in the GT300 with their smaller engine displacement uses FI to get to that 300 ps/hp mark. One would assume that cars like the NSX or the Z would be NA in the GT300 class simply because their stock NA engine is already close enough to 300.
http://www.jgtcusa.net/jgtc_teams_500.html
http://www.jgtcusa.net/jgtc_teams_300.html
In looking at the specs, I'd think that neither class is restricted to be NA or FI. For example, some of the MR-S cars in the GT300 with their smaller engine displacement uses FI to get to that 300 ps/hp mark. One would assume that cars like the NSX or the Z would be NA in the GT300 class simply because their stock NA engine is already close enough to 300.
http://www.jgtcusa.net/jgtc_teams_500.html
http://www.jgtcusa.net/jgtc_teams_300.html
Ponyboy said:
How have they done this year being turbo charged vs being NA last year?
Too bad there are better details/specs on the cars. Lots of things I'd like to know.
I remember seeing the pre-2001 JGTC500 NSXs and the engine bay showed ITB... that shows the set up is NA maybe?
just look at the model of JGTC NSXs, they all show the engine has ITB. I know so because I put a Raybrig model together.
just look at the model of JGTC NSXs, they all show the engine has ITB. I know so because I put a Raybrig model together.
i've been following the series for several years and from my knowledge this is the first year the NSX's have been turboed in the JGTC (previous NSXs had a 3.5L NA engine). i haven't kept up with the series much this year, but last year the NSXs sucked not only because of lack of power from high-elevation circuits, but more so because the regulations changed the aerodynamics on the car, reducing a lot of downforce.
i believe the last time there was a turboed NSX running in a GT race was in the 1995 Le Mans, one of the NSX GT1's was twin turboed and produced about 650 hp...
i believe the last time there was a turboed NSX running in a GT race was in the 1995 Le Mans, one of the NSX GT1's was twin turboed and produced about 650 hp...
I thought the rules stated that a car could only run a turbo if the compony has produced a turbo on another engine...I really am not sure can someone correct me? I also was told that some supras were running a V8 engine from another one of the toyota cars, is this true?
except for 20B (3-rotor) engines in the GT-300 class, forced induction is allowed on any engine. and yes the supras this year are using the 3UZ-FE 4.3L V8 engine which powers several Lexus vehicles.
gt300 is n/a except the imprezas, celicas, mr2s and the gt500 is turbo charged for the nsx. the gt300 max horse power is 300 and the gt500 is 500. as for the supra yes it does run a v8 they are aloud to use any engine as long as it is made from the same make.
jgtcnsx said:
So if HONDA realizes they cannot compete without turbo's on the track, why can't they see they are not competitive on the street anymore?
Last sunday they had the weekend JGTC overview on tv, the announcer mentioned something about the turbo nsx. I thought i was hearing things!
honda has never used turbos on any of thier cars and i honestly they dont think they ever will. even if they are getting out performed on the street but they are only getting out performed maybe in america. in japan the nsx r is the best car their when you go by stock. yes maybe a skyline can be modified heavier than a nsx but from the factory the nsx r owns it on the most important part in japan on the track. still gets it in the 1/4 to
You need to do some more research! Honda city turbo!
NetViper said:
There's actually more as to why Honda opted to use turbos on the JGTC NSXs.
According to a recent article in an "import" mag that was highlighting JGTC cars and regulations, the governing board for the JGTC is made up entirely of representatives of Toyota and Nissan. If anyone remembers, the naturally aspirated Honda NSXs campaigned in the JGTC used to commony obliterate the rest of the field, turbo or not and the JGTC title was won by Honda in 2000 and 2002. Apparently, this Honda domination upset the governing board (remember, it's run by bigtime Nissan and Toyota guys) and they elected to implement a new set of rules that apply "only to mid-engined" cars competing in the field. Well, let's see, the Supra and Skyline are all front engine which leaves only the NSX to be penalized by forcing the NSX teams to incur a weight penalty as well as limited downforce and front end adjustment. This causes the NSX to be overweight, ill handling and just not characteristic at all of the car. Add to that a twin turbo setup that is only there in order to make up for the weight penalty and downforce limitations and you have an NSX that is severely handicapped in all aspects.
If Toyota and Nissan are truly making up the rules as they go along in JGTC in order to prevent Honda from winning, that's truly a blackeye to the sport.
