Is this SerialNSX's Type R recreation? JH4NA21632T000186

[PoKnow]

The issue (for me) with a car like this is the loss of originality. History has shown time and time again at classic car auctions that cars that have been modified like this or similar to this just never have that much appeal in the long term and the prices eventually fall below clean originals. Imagine a modified classic Ferrari or any other make going on the auction block. Guaranteed it will sell significantly less than an original. I always look at the investment potential of a car and I just do not see it with this one. Great car and very impressive however I think history will not be friendly to it.

I agree with this 100%.

I feel that the car has been molested. Almost every inch of this car has been touch by someone who wasn't on the assembly line. Do we even know where the donor engine came from? Would you trust the car as much as you would another 2002 with exact mileage? How old is that headliner? Did that come from a 91? You can see the sun visor cracking already.

There are some of us who care... some who don't. My guess is 50/50.

 

[ANYTIME]

I agree with this 100%.

I feel that the car has been molested. Almost every inch of this car has been touch by someone who wasn't on the assembly line. Do we even know where the donor engine came from? Would you trust the car as much as you would another 2002 with exact mileage? How old is that headliner? Did that come from a 91? You can see the sun visor cracking already.

There are some of us who care... some who don't. My guess is 50/50.

 

[NA1MT]

I thought we were discussing value of car not how collectable it is. Bottom line is if you want an NSX-R clone you can pay this guy up front and drive it next week or start a project of your own and pay the same money over the coarse of a few years and maybe when you get done it will be as nice as this one. If you paid $145,000 for something why would you sell it a few months later in the same condition for $70,000 unless the mafia were on there way over to collect a debt....lol......or you got taken from the start. Simple math will let you know it's not the latter of the two reasons. As far as not knowing who worked on this car,learn to use the search function and you can see the entire process with pics pretty much from start to finish.

 

[Stephen@NCAutoUSA]

This car needs a good home...

 

[NSX UNITED]

This car needs a good home...

Indeed. I would definitely buy this car if I reside in the US. All my desired features are there, 3.8L, ITB, etc...

Due to business nature, I would most likely negotiate and offer them 125k for this beauty.

 

[Jati]

Hi All,

I am the owner of this car......When I purchased it from Anil, I had no intentions of ever selling it. To own something so unique and well-sorted is what fuels my collector passions. While I own or have owned almost every type of exotic car (mostly Ferrari's)...Anil's NSX-RR is something that I appreciate as a labor of love, done right!
I'm happy that by advertising it for sale I am able to generate discussion for the NSXPrime people. This forum like all others, lends itself to open discussion and widely varying opinions. Kind of like who likes which political candidate.

BTW, The only reason it is available, is that I am out of garage space and have something very special on the way in.

Happy New Year to all!

Joe

 

[schuey1010]

Due to business nature, I would most likely negotiate and offer them 125k for this beauty.

Relisted with your 125K price at buy it now. Bring it home.

 

[liftnot]

Hi All,

BTW, The only reason it is available, is that I am out of garage space and have something very special on the way in.


If you are the lucky few in the US that ordered the McLaren MP4 like my friend did, his has landed at Long Beach so yours is coming.
Lucky you:biggrin:

 

[NSX UNITED]

Relisted with your 125K price at buy it now. Bring it home.

Ha ha, I noticed but like I said, I don't live in the US anymore and HK doesn't allow LHDs, too bad.

 

[Track Addict]

The dealer says he "takes trades". Wonder if he'd consider my left nut 'cause he can sure have it for that bad boy---

Thanks for the laugh!

I have seen this car and lusted after it since I stumbled upon it (before I joined Prime) it deserves a good home and I KNOW that the SerialNSX didn't want his creation to end up this way. We all want our cars to end up in good homes where they're appreciated and not neglected...also not tossed around like a cheap "lady of the night".


like many here...if only I had the scratch.

 

[Aaron94T]

I do agree with your point of view though I don't think it applies to this particular vehicle.

Bear in mind this car is nothing special in its original form and it is indeed due to its history that draws so much attention.

Not sure about that. A 2002 in White is a pretty rare car. I have only seen one bug eye white car in person. Color makes a difference.

 

[NSX UNITED]

Not sure about that. A 2002 in White is a pretty rare car. I have only seen one bug eye white car in person. Color makes a difference.

You're certainly right that color makes a different. I didn't realize it's original paint on the car.

In any case, my previous post was tackling the point that another member believes all the mods on this car will degrade its value in the long run, which I highly doubt.

I have nothing but praise on this car.

 

[kwinkler]

The paint is not original. It started off blue.

Edit: He traded a blue one to get a white 02 so this did start off white.

 

[SOURCE 1]

The paint is not original. It started off blue.

I thought the blue one was wrecked at the dealer and the white one was the replacement?

 

[RSO 34]

I'm just surprised that the dealer relisted it immediately and only lowered the BIN to 125k. It didn't crack 70k last time and it was immediately relisted. I just don't see the rationale of an immediate relisting when it didn't come within 50k of the new BIN price right before this.

 

[docjohn]

I thought the blue one was wrecked at the dealer and the white one was the replacement?

Is this what we are talking about http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57425&highlight=ryan+coupe and this http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116772&highlight=ryan+coupe

 

[nsxot1c]

I thought the blue one was wrecked at the dealer and the white one was the replacement?

I believe that was Ryans car, not Serial NSX'R version.

Anil's car I believe started off white but was resprayed after they shaved some different items like the sidemarkers.

He did trade his blue one for a white one as well as seen below.


Ryans

http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57425&highlight=serialnsxr

SerialNSXr's

http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61106&highlight=high

 

[NSX UNITED]

I'm just surprised that the dealer relisted it immediately and only lowered the BIN to 125k. It didn't crack 70k last time and it was immediately relisted. I just don't see the rationale of an immediate relisting when it didn't come within 50k of the new BIN price right before this.

Apparently, the current owner wants this car gone and gone quickly.

Suppose it doesn't hurt to keep on putting it up for sale in case any potential buyer may have missed the previous listing(s).

Regardless that something very special is coming in to take up a garage space, it's a shame that this NSX became the first to boot. This IS a very special vehicle, I'd be disappointed even if a MP4-C12 replaces its spot.

 

[TURBO2GO]

I guess I will say it and get shot for it:

I don't see the fascination. This is a car that LOOKS stock, but is actually not at all. If you are going to MAKE a type R, then why not make it as stock as possible. If you are going to modify an NSX, then besides the fact that it has very nice and very unique mods, it is another modifed NSX, right? I mean the suspension is JRZ RS, the hood is a Procar, the motor is built by SOS, this is not a Type R. It is someone's creation like many other creations.

Modified cars never get what the investment is.

If I was a collector, I am not sure I would buy this car over one that is for example a bone stock 2000 mile 2005 for a lot less money. That car over time will really be a collector's item because it is a factory original untouched car. This isn't. If I was not a collector and was going to buy a car to just drive, I'd have to have an aweful lot of other cars before I paid this kind of money for an NSX. In other words, if the choice was between a used Murcielago, an F430, or this to drive and not keep as a collectors item, I personally don't think I would take the NSX. Not at this price with those competing cars.

So for me, the value of the car would be in a highly modified NSX like any other highly modified NSX. Is it tasteful and well done? Yes. Would I have done it exactly the same way? I'm not really sure.

The people that REALLY appreciate this car are ones that are on this forum. I am not sure the average person will have the same level of appreciation. But the buyers of such a car are probably NOT on this forum.

Let me Edit and say, I don't dislike this car in any way, I think it is beautiful and well-executed and I hope it gets what Joe wants. I was just expressing my personal opinion on such an item and its inherent market value. Sometimes, on something very unique, value is established by its previous purchase pricing. Did Anil and Joe establish a market price for this car with this purchase through such a short period of time? I don't know. But at least it gives the next buyer something to look at. If I was looking at a unique product... and it was just purchased at say 145K, buying it at 120K might make me feel like I got a deal. I am curious as to what happens with this car next, and hope that it winds up with a prime member.

 

[SOURCE 1]

Is this what we are talking about http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57425&highlight=ryan+coupe and this http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116772&highlight=ryan+coupe

I believe that was Ryans car, not Serial NSX'R version.

Anil's car I believe started off white but was resprayed after they shaved some different items like the sidemarkers.

He did trade his blue one for a white one as well as seen below.


Ryans

http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57425&highlight=serialnsxr

SerialNSXr's

http://nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61106&highlight=high

Yes, I was Confused. Thanks

 

[synth19]

I agree with TURBO2GO. I absolutely love the car, but from a collector's standpoint.... I don't see the value. Now a person who wants a top-notch, R-modified NSX, this car is more then a dream. But from a collector's standpoint, it's simply not the real thing.


Out of curiosity, how much does a Genuine NA2 NSX-R go for in Japan these days?

 

[Matt_337]

I didn't want to chime in to this topic because opinions are just opinions. Anyway, I find it funny how this car gets blasted when it's for sale yet during the whole build up by Anil, not one person said anything negative and everyone ooh'd and ahh'd over it.

Someone will buy the car and will get a great car with some nice parts on it.


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[DocL]

This is car is just like the "clone" muscle cars that are becoming very popular. It's also not much different than a restomod, however it being an NSX puts it into uncharted territory with a very limited group of potential buyers. Maybe if this car was for sale in Europe it would have more potential. Unfortunately, here in the USofA, very few people know what a Type-R NSX is, nevertheless a regular NSX.

 

[RSO 34]

I didn't want to chime in to this topic because opinions are just opinions. Anyway, I find it funny how this car gets blasted when it's for sale yet during the whole build up by Anil, not one person said anything negative and everyone ooh'd and ahh'd over it.

Someone will buy the car and will get a great car with some nice parts on it.


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I don't think anyone is "blasting" the car. I think many, like me, think it is overpriced for what it is. I personally think the 145k price tag was the seller dreaming big and the 125k current BIN is equally unlikely. Yes, the car is a nice build but it is one thing to spend it on your own car to build it that way over time as a project of love and something completely different to expect to find someone just like you to pay the "finished price". I would put it closer in value to the recent low mileage zanardi that went for around 75k. I wouldn't spend that much on a zanardi either but I can see it being more "valuable" to a collector or enthusiast.

 

[NA1/2-R GT]

I agree with TURBO2GO. I absolutely love the car, but from a collector's standpoint.... I don't see the value. Now a person who wants a top-notch, R-modified NSX, this car is more then a dream. But from a collector's standpoint, it's simply not the real thing.


Out of curiosity, how much does a Genuine NA2 NSX-R go for in Japan these days?

$100K+ I'd guess.