Is this a rip??

Yup. Seller is just capitalizing since it appears the 91-92 models are in limited supply and will not longer be available. If you do a search, there are plenty of recent threads, including information on Dali's site. MSRP for 91-92 model is actually less than 93+.

I recently paid $187 (shipping included) for my 91-92 keyless entry kit from Niello.
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Install is easy. No cutting required.

<img src="http://www.ojaspatel.com/external/keyless-install-1.gif" style="border:1px solid #999999;margin-bottom:6px" /><br /><img src="http://www.ojaspatel.com/external/keyless-install-2.gif" style="border:1px solid #999999;margin-bottom:6px" /><br /><img src="http://www.ojaspatel.com/external/keyless-install-3.gif" style="border:1px solid #999999;margin-bottom:6px" /><br /><img src="http://www.ojaspatel.com/external/keyless-install-4.gif" style="border:1px solid #999999;margin-bottom:6px" />
 
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ANYTIME said:
Easy job, all of about an hour(if you take your time). Plugs into existing harness.
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It also comes standard with good instructions. Took me a little more then an hour but an easy mod none the less. Also comes with 2 fobs and 2 leather cases which are a very nice touch IMO.

Now if only it had a trunk opener!

;)
 
NetViper said:
Is this a rip??
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No.

If no one pays his asking price, then no one is getting ripped off.

And if someone does pay his asking price, then he is doing so willingly - so again, no one is getting ripped off.

People can sell anything they own for any price they like. As long as the merchandise is being fairly represented and the buyer doesn't mind paying the price asked, then no one is getting ripped off.
 
nsxtasy said:
No.

If no one pays his asking price, then no one is getting ripped off.

And if someone does pay his asking price, then he is doing so willingly - so again, no one is getting ripped off.

People can sell anything they own for any price they like. As long as the merchandise is being fairly represented and the buyer doesn't mind paying the price asked, then no one is getting ripped off.
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Let us assume that Mrs. Sucette buys it at $500, thinking althougth it is expensive that's got to be the price to pay since it's an NSX + the fact that she didn't really do a diligent search before hand. Do you then consider that it's ok for sellers to "rip-off" uninformed buyers ?
 
>>Do you then consider that it's ok for sellers to "rip-off" uninformed buyers ?

You assume malicious intent which is not the case. I think you miss Ken's point which BTW I thought to be excellent. You say Mrs. Sucette buys it without doing a 'diligent search' - in effect you say she does not know what she is buying. This misses the point which was 'the item is fairly represented' and the buyer 'doesn't mind paying the price.' Implicit in the last part of that last sentence is (A) an informed buyer who doesn't mind paying more or (B) an uninformed buyer who doesn't know and doesn't mind paying more. No one is hurt when this happens.

I'm about to sell some old camera gear on eBay. I've owned the stuff for 30+ years but because I take exceptional care of my gear it is in new condition, and for that reason I'm going to price it above market norm. If an informed buyers is willing to pay the (small) additional price for the exceptional condition, fine. If some moron is cruising eBay a minute before the auction ends and decides willingly to pay a statistically high price to win the auction, fine. I get above-market price, the buyer gets superb equipment and there is no malicious intent in either scenario. Thus no rip off.
 
Soichiro said:
>>Do you then consider that it's ok for sellers to "rip-off" uninformed buyers ?

You assume malicious intent which is not the case.
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Unless the seller himself is ignorant of the real price, what other reason you could think of, when the unit is still availabe at the dealership for half the price ?

Soichiro said:
I think you miss Ken's point which BTW I thought to be excellent. You say Mrs. Sucette buys it without doing a 'diligent search' - in effect you say she does not know what she is buying.
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No. I am saying she does know what she is buying BUT doesn't know how much the fair value price is.

Soichiro said:
This misses the point which was 'the item is fairly represented' and the buyer 'doesn't mind paying the price.' Implicit in the last part of that last sentence is (A) an informed buyer who doesn't mind paying more or (B) an uninformed buyer who doesn't know and doesn't mind paying more.
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(A) case you are stating is possible. (B) however is not as an uninformed buyer, by definition, does NOT KNOW what the fair value price is. Minding or not to pay more, already assumes the fact that the buyer is informed on the fair value price.

Soichiro said:
No one is hurt when this happens.
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You are correct if case (A) is true. However, in the case where an uninformed buyer who doen't know the fair value, many people could get hurt imho.
 
nsxtasy said:
No.
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Maybe yes, maybe no. In saying no you might have some privileged informations. Do you? :)

To that question I am tempted to answer the same than you! :)

No!


If no one pays his asking price, then no one is getting ripped off.


This is almost irrefutable but there is still some special logical cases where there could be a rip even if no one pays his asking price!


And if someone does pay his asking price, then he is doing so willingly - so again, no one is getting ripped off.


But "And if someone does pay his asking price," then this doesn't mean necessarily that he is doing so willingly. :)



People can sell anything they own for any price they like. As long as the merchandise is being fairly represented and the buyer doesn't mind paying the price asked, then no one is getting ripped off.

People can sell anything they own for any price they like. As long as the merchandise is being fairly represented and the buyer fairly informed doesn't mind paying the price asked, then no one is getting ripped off.

IMO a better definition of a time lasting win win situation.

But I agree with you nsxtasy because I don't feel ripped off with the way you build your points knowing your intention! :)
 
Ken's point is blunt...but unfortunately true.
If you think about it, we get "ripped off" all the time.

Buy a tub of popcorn at the movies for $5 when it probably costs 50 cents to make it...

Buy an expensive cologne for hundreds of dollars when it probably cost them 1/20 of what you paid for to make it...

etc, etc, etc... you get my drift. People charge 100%, 200% mark-up and people buy them because they willingly do so. And they sure aren't gonna tell YOU how much it cost them to provide it for the public.
 
Joel said:
etc, etc, etc... you get my drift. People charge 100%, 200% mark-up and people buy them because they willingly do so. And they sure aren't gonna tell YOU how much it cost them to provide it for the public.
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Last time I checked, price gouging was illegal in many states.
 
apapada said:
Last time I checked, price gouging was illegal in many states.
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that's silly.
who's to say is worth what, especially illegal (unless cars etc) but a device for a car.......
anybody buying such an item should do homework before purchase end of story if they do not, then they are at fault
the only rip off would be if someone paid it and they didn't get it
 
apapada said:
Last time I checked, price gouging was illegal in many states.
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That may be so, but this is not price gouging, since this guy does not have a monopoly and there is not unusally high demand. We can easily get this item from other outlets.
 
apapada said:
Last time I checked, price gouging was illegal in many states.
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Last time I checked, vendors were allowed to charge whatever price they wanted for their products, in all fifty states.
 

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