Even if I had to pay, the M3.
If they're free - Which one you'll take? M3 or ISF
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Maintenance costs outside of the warranty will be higher as you have to pay the M tax. Regarding reliability my E46 buddies are not much worse than what I have to deal with on my NSX.
I agree completely but everyone has different tastes though the IS-F is a really hard pill to swallow. It looks just as bad in person...
I'd take the ISF if it were more reliable.... My BMW has cost me almost my entire savings since the warranty expired less than a month ago... First the starter, then the alternator (and mine had some super rare one not used on 99.999% of the 3 series, no one knows why) and NOW the on board computer is glitching. Mind you the warranty ended LESS THAN a month ago...
Nevermind the $10,000 + of warranty work that was covered and I've not even had the "subframe repair" needed...
BMW = Bring My Wallet
Nevermind the $10,000 + of warranty work that was covered and I've not even had the "subframe repair" needed...
BMW = Bring My Wallet
I'm surprised to hear about the cost of maintenance on M3's from others. I know parts tend to be high. I own a "poor man's" M3, a 2003 330I sedan. Great car! The best DD I have ever owned. Yes, I like my NSX more. :biggrin:
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Buy it new: BMW
Buy it use (no warranty): Lexus
I love the (2006) V10 M5 but too scary to buy it used without warranty.
Buy it use (no warranty): Lexus
I love the (2006) V10 M5 but too scary to buy it used without warranty.
I've owned a 5 series in the past and now own a IS 250...The BMW's build quality was CRAP(buttons breaking, water pump issues, electrical issues)... the Lexus on the other hand is the smoothest car I've ever driven and the buttons actually work and don't break off...
ISF hands down....
ISF hands down....
ISF for me because I tend to drive cars until they are undrivable.
Well, if this actually happened I would sell it afterwards and buy another car because I think they are both ugly and weigh too much.
Well, if this actually happened I would sell it afterwards and buy another car because I think they are both ugly and weigh too much.
I'd rather lease the M3, I'd rather own the lexus.
But, I don't lease and I keep cars for a long time and drive them a lot. I've had my BMW experience. It lasted 2 years, and that was MORE than enough. I spent WAY more on a 330Ci that was under warranty the whole time I owned it than I have on my lexus in 100k, and that includes the timing belt on the lexus.
But, I don't lease and I keep cars for a long time and drive them a lot. I've had my BMW experience. It lasted 2 years, and that was MORE than enough. I spent WAY more on a 330Ci that was under warranty the whole time I owned it than I have on my lexus in 100k, and that includes the timing belt on the lexus.
I hate beemers, they are so unreliable, and the service dept nickel and dimes you. I love Lexus, or any Japanese product.
With that said, I would take the M3...beautiful machine.
With that said, I would take the M3...beautiful machine.
I love the ISF but I would probably take the M3 saloon based on the ability to get it with a proper manual transmission.
M3, looks much better, it's a 2dr, it's an M3. I've heard/read about the horrible reliability though, nonetheless, M3.
Having owned both badges, I would go with the IS-F. I'm a picky owner when it comes to interiors. No matter the model, BMW, IMHO still has yet to produce an interior that is Lexus quality. For some reason they STILL use that crappy looking amber LED display. It looks like a damn dot matrix. This combined with reliability, service department, and overall dealer experience make it a no-brainer for me. Everyone's got an opinion. . . .
Yea, but look at the exterior design though :biggrin: :tongue:
Both IMO are beautiful cars.
I'll take the one that doesn't depreciate the most.
I'll take the one that doesn't depreciate the most.
Both IMO are beautiful cars.
I'll take the one that doesn't depreciate the most.
Why would it matter which one depreciates more? We're talking about having either car free.
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