Actually if there is any great history it belongs to Honda.They designed and built the original.
And they are free to do what they want with the NSX name and design in the future.
If we like it we can buy it or not.
How is the new NSX supposed to compete with this???
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Actually if there is any great history it belongs to Honda.They designed and built the original.
And they are free to do what they want with the NSX name and design in the future.
If we like it we can buy it or not.
That argument could be made, however the proposed V10 front engine NSX sucessor was definitely not an NSX. KSXNSX's claim that it has nothing to do with the original NSX is fairly inaccurate. The new NSX is mid engine, similar size/shape/double stagger stance, V6 powered, same interior layout and even other subtle homages to the original. This is a much closer mark to the NSX than any other concept attempt so far. I am willing to bet that the concept and prototype are even based off the original platform. This concept is going to be more powerful than the HSC and it has a better side profile and rear end. I only like the HSC's front end better slightly.
Some people just don't like change or take longer to warm up to it. The gripes about hybrid tech and no stick/clutch is so closed minded. A DCT is very engaging when you want it to be. Embrace the future or be left behind. I reckon most people will embrace eventually.
There are valid reasons to have gripes about the hybrid tech. And there are valid personal reasons to have gripes about not having a manual clutch option. I personally have a wait and see attitude about the hybrid tech, hoping Honda will surprise me.
Amen Caustic^^^
For the manual clutch car solution - Always keep another car in the stable that has a clutch and stick. I think and hope that the new NSX will be just as practical as the first one (maybe even more so with a DCT and AWD) and owners will be motivated to drive it 3-4 days a week when weather permits. That's the way I feel about my NSX now. I paid good money for it, so I would like to drive it whenever possible.
I'm with you on hoping Honda can surprise. I think they feel the pressure and hopefully they can use the hybrid tech to augment performance and efficiency as projected. Hybrids have only been used to make niche yuppy cars like the Prius or Insight and there has been very little development in this area since it's still new to the scene. Honda did botch the CRZ, but there is still a small cult following for it just like the CRX, even tho it's does not carry as much as an impact. People have to remember that the CRX was never about high performance really, which was what the CRZ's biggest complaint is.
Inevitably though, we have to make the transition to an alternative fuel OR become extremely efficient at burning this fuel, to the point that the other billions of people on this earth can also enjoy modern Industrial technology as much as the ones like us that are fortunate enough to have access to it. Right now, at current fuel efficiency, there is not enough resources to accommodate even 1/4 of the world's ever growing 7 billion population.
NOW, I know some people will come in and say, hey, it's a sports car, it's not meant to please everyone. Well it's a flagship car, and the tech starts here and then trickles down to the cash crop, bread and butter. Flagships represent the company's main goal and philosophy and I respect Honda's goal right now. It's the execution that everyone is concerned about. We as intelligent human beings seek progression and evolution. What is the next level, when we already had 500+ hp cars for the last half century? Fuel Injection changed the game with the transition from carburetors. You can't fully believe that the first fuel injected cars didn't have concerns and doubts? Hybrids are the current progressive step. Why are modern 500 hp supercars still barely breaking 20 mpg? Half a century ago, it took a very large carbureted engine to make 500 hp, but it got something like ~10 mpg. Why can't a flagship car have ~500 hp and still get well over 30 mpg if not close to 40 mpg? If Honda could achieve this goal, think about the fuel mileage and performance that could be achieved for a car with half that horsepower, but with the same philosophy.
Porsche sets the GT3 hook - similar feeling to Honda & their original NSX video w/ James Coburn voice over narration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi__aUgfgE
NSX Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v7F0UPredI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi__aUgfgE
NSX Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v7F0UPredI
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Well that's what Ted was talking about and was even told by Uhera San go for the driving experience and the performance numbers will come. They're not going for a high HP. When asked if the NSX has to be faster than the GTR Ted replies "it's a different animal than the GTR"
Ted's telling us everything they're shooting for in this video if you guys just pay attention
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Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere - there is speculation of a tie-up between Honda and McLaren for a 911 rival sharing technologies between the two companies.
NB Porsche prices in NZ$ are very high, despite the prevailing exchange rate... !!!
NB Porsche prices in NZ$ are very high, despite the prevailing exchange rate... !!!
Saleen's New Supercar is Coming in 2 Years
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2013/8/28/Saleen-s-New-Supercar-is-Coming-in-2-Years-7715974/
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2013/8/28/Saleen-s-New-Supercar-is-Coming-in-2-Years-7715974/
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holy cow, if that's the new R8, it looks bloody fantastic...
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Bulleta Motors Unveil RF22 Sports Car
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2013/8/30/Bulleta-Motors-Unveil-RF22-Sports-Car-7716008/
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2013/8/30/Bulleta-Motors-Unveil-RF22-Sports-Car-7716008/
My friend is in negotiation with Ferrari on buying one. Will take pictures for you perry if the deal goes through. They are not very nice to their loyal customers on getting one. Even with the la Ferrari my friend was way down on the list on getting one. I don't get how Ferrari can treat their customers like this.....supply and demand lets them do this.......
Thanks bro
Holy S*&T the super car market is going to get crowded .. here's another: http://www.jaguar.com/ca/en/about_jaguar/cx75prototype
The new NSX is most likely gonna have a 'J' series block from the new RL with dual cam heads, most likely different rod to stroke ratio since 'J' motors do not really rev that hard. The J's are very good motors not too may problems so why go and design an entirely new motor when you have a tried and tested platform, plus it has to be direct injected.
Everyone has said the blue NSX at the track sounded like a modded J series and according to this your right
So it is a J series and unless the NSX gets a stand alone engine.
for comparison sake
If a J series block is used for a 3.5 L engine it's bore would be approx. 90 mm and stroke of approx. 93. This is not a high revving configuration.
If Honda wants say 125 hp/liter NA, I believe they need high rpm like the Porsche 3.8 L.
If they are stuck with the low revving J block then perhaps it will need to be turbocharged to deliver higher hp/liter.
Apparently the driveline is coming from Japan so perhaps we haven't seen it yet.
However Wingz commented that "Everyone has said the blue NSX at the track sounded like a modded J series and according to this your right"
so perhaps a long stroke engine is what we have.
Thanx,
The above is a slight improvement.
Now I've got the A-pillar in a more proper spot.... which stretched the window slightly which looks better.
I'm very pleased with how the full width duc tail spoiler looks...now exposed because of mid engine.
I could have flattend the hood but it's a good looking hood.
If it existed, it would be a car I'd be very interested in.
Here is a mid Viper I did few years ago but never posted until now lol. It's just for fun
thx S
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