I received one as a gift and am wondering how those of you who have one like them. Are they really just a matter of pump a few times and watch them work? Any special tricks I need to know in order to use this properly? Thanks.
Griot's Oil Extractor
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Greatest thing since sliced bread! I use the narrowest diameter tube and insert it about 6 inches more that the dip stick. I pump about 12 times to get the oil up thru the tube, then sit back and watch it fill up the canister. Each ring is exactly a quart, so you get a good idea at the rate it is being emptied, and how much remains. Not a necessity, but you should warm the engine up prior to extracting the oil. I jack the car up on one side and place a jack stand under the wheel loosely for safety while I replace the filter (pan to catch filter and dripping oil) without pulling the wheel. I then pour the used oil from the canister back into the emptied new oil containers.
DanO has it and likes it.
DanO, would you like to comment?
DanO, would you like to comment?
Works great on the NSX. Doesn't work on all cars. It pulls out a little more oil than draining the pan.
www.danoland.com/nsxgarage/oil_change/oil_change.htm
DanO
I used mine today. Had some trouble figuring out if the drain hose was at the proper location inside the oil pan, and I had to pump it way more than the "several" suggested times, but it did work. Only sucked out a bit over four quarts, then whatever was in the filter came out with the filter. I was wondering where the rest went? Oil level on the dipstick was right between the two holes before I started. Should be almost five and a half quarts, right? I would recommend this pump, as it makes for a cleaner job.
Five quarts including filter is about right. (4 1/2 in the pan 1/2 in the filter).
i just ordered mine today =-).
what other car can this be used on?? will this work on all Honda/Acura's?
what other car can this be used on?? will this work on all Honda/Acura's?
I "wiggle" the tube up/down about 12" and pump when the tube starts to shake when like it does when it starts running out of oil to extract. I try and find the "sweet spot" where the tube is in the lowest part of the pan so it sucks up as much oil as possible.
If you're not not 100% sure you pulled all the oil out, you can always open the drain plug to double-check. If extracted properly, there should not be as much as a drop of oil that will drip out.
DanO
If you're not not 100% sure you pulled all the oil out, you can always open the drain plug to double-check. If extracted properly, there should not be as much as a drop of oil that will drip out.
DanO
The top hole is full, which means 5.2 quarts including the oil in the filter. The bottom hole, I believe, is down one quart. If it was halfway between the two, it was down half a quart, which means 4.7 quarts coming out, including the oil in the filter.
Hey guys, pay only $48.95 for the oil extractor from these guys in Las Vegas. Here's the link...
http://www.mytoolstore.com/astro/asthan11.html
Regards,
Justin
http://www.mytoolstore.com/astro/asthan11.html
Regards,
Justin
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thanks for the link but i already bought mine =-( wish you posted earlier hehe
just got mine today and it works great!!
does anyone know why this only works on some cars? with the idea, it should work on all cars.
does anyone know why this only works on some cars? with the idea, it should work on all cars.
Northern Tool has this one that I bought for $39.95 at there local store in GSO, but have not tried it yet. I liked the fact that it was easy to carry to the recycle center and empty without using extra containers.
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Gary Yates
1995 Red/Tan
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Gary Yates
1995 Red/Tan
Not all cars have dipstick tubes with a large enough diameter or a not as straight of a shot to the drain pan. On my old Saturn, the tube went in about ½ down the dipstick tube then was blocked by something from going any further.
DanO
I have also experienced this shortcoming with a newer V8 Mustang and older V6 Ranger.
I don't know if this was discussed in another thread before or not but I was able to remove my oil filter without spilling a single drop of oil. All I did was wrap a gallon size ZipLoc bag around the filter and spun it off. I'll probably put a paper towel in the bag next time to aid in traction on the filter when spinning it off.
cool, i am going to give your way a try next time i take the filter out.
I talked about the oil-extractor to someone and he told me it was better to use the ordinary method because any 'sludge' that might be in the bottom of your oilpan will not come out when using the oil-extractor.
I've never done an oilchange myself and am not exactly looking forward to the chance of spilling 6 liters of oil on the shared-with-others garage-floor.
I've never done an oilchange myself and am not exactly looking forward to the chance of spilling 6 liters of oil on the shared-with-others garage-floor.
in the manual, it says to start your car and warm it up to move around the sludge before extracting the oil. but dont leave the motor on too long or it will be too hot and melt the extractor
Just some confirmations on some of the replies. Using the Griot's extractor, I slipped the narrowest tube down six inches more than the length of the dip stick. Like DanO suggested, when it starts gurgling with bubbles, around three quarts have been extracted (about ten minutes), jiggle the tube down another six inches, and when it starts gurgling again around 4 quarts, keep jiggling the tube up and down and you should be able to pull about another 1/3 of a quart out (you will hear the tube dragging on an empty pan, leaving no doubt if any oil remains). Total time is about 15 minutes, and if the oil was at the top hole on the dip stick before you started, you should have extracted four and a third rings full. I used w's suggestion with the gallon ziplock bag with about 5 sheets of paper towels in it for traction and to absorb the draining oil from the filter during removal, and that is a great idea (three drops of oil in the pan)! Replaced Mobil One to the top hole of the dip stick, and it was exactly five and a third quarts using an OEM filter.
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Just got the Northern Tool one.
Has large resevour and 2 different tubes (one is very small). Worked fantastic on my Honda Odyssey. Biggest complaint about the Ody is the transmission failures (incredible rate!). There is no transmission cooler standard, no filter (just a magnetic plug), hard to fill back up, and no way to drain more then 40% of the oil.
Some people have to drive the car, change 3 quartz of the dirty oil, drive the car, change 3 quartz, etc. They repeat this 3 times to get as much of the fluid out as possible - unacceptable!
Anyway - using this tool I was able to get 7 quartz out! Only during a rebuild can you get more then that out. Also - the small tool comes out and fits into a small funnel i have so I was able to refill it through the dip stick. The larger tube is for anti freeze or some oil. My engine was very hot and no problem with melting or getting stuck in there (they do warn to be VERY careful with this).
Leave it to Dan O to find such a great tool!!!
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Nick M
91' Red/Black with Many Mods
99' Honda Odyssey with Many Kids
Has large resevour and 2 different tubes (one is very small). Worked fantastic on my Honda Odyssey. Biggest complaint about the Ody is the transmission failures (incredible rate!). There is no transmission cooler standard, no filter (just a magnetic plug), hard to fill back up, and no way to drain more then 40% of the oil.
Some people have to drive the car, change 3 quartz of the dirty oil, drive the car, change 3 quartz, etc. They repeat this 3 times to get as much of the fluid out as possible - unacceptable!
Anyway - using this tool I was able to get 7 quartz out! Only during a rebuild can you get more then that out. Also - the small tool comes out and fits into a small funnel i have so I was able to refill it through the dip stick. The larger tube is for anti freeze or some oil. My engine was very hot and no problem with melting or getting stuck in there (they do warn to be VERY careful with this).
Leave it to Dan O to find such a great tool!!!
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Nick M
91' Red/Black with Many Mods
99' Honda Odyssey with Many Kids
I would like to know how this can remove more oil than the drain plug method. If you jack up the car so the drain plug is at the lowest point, oil the oil in the pan will drain out.
I also don't see how this can be less of a mess. The oil filter is always the messiest part, and the pump doesn't solve that. And while i am under my car looking at the drain plug, I have the opportunity to inspect everything else down there.
This toy doesn't seem to be the best thing since sliced bread. Speaking of which, sliced bread ain't that great either. A nice loaf of homemade bread beats the hell out of the preserved crap the stores sell.
JMNSHO
I also don't see how this can be less of a mess. The oil filter is always the messiest part, and the pump doesn't solve that. And while i am under my car looking at the drain plug, I have the opportunity to inspect everything else down there.
This toy doesn't seem to be the best thing since sliced bread. Speaking of which, sliced bread ain't that great either. A nice loaf of homemade bread beats the hell out of the preserved crap the stores sell.
JMNSHO
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For me - I haven't used it for the NSX but I think the hardest part is getting the filter off (love that zip lock back around it trick!!!).
If it gets nearly as much oil as the plug then I will use it as I don't risk cross threading the plug, accidentally over/under torquing, putting on the old crush washer, etc. Also one thing that is nice is that the whole unit completely seals and goes to the recycler for disposal instead of pouring it back into the jugs, etc.
If it gets nearly as much oil as the plug then I will use it as I don't risk cross threading the plug, accidentally over/under torquing, putting on the old crush washer, etc. Also one thing that is nice is that the whole unit completely seals and goes to the recycler for disposal instead of pouring it back into the jugs, etc.
nsx4fun,
Nick's description was in regard to the trans fluid change. Auto transmissions are hard to get all the fluid out, since the fluid is stuck in the torque converter.
Typically on a Honda Accord you get only 2.5 quarts when you drain it using the plug. (never did an Odyssey)Because... you cannot empty the torque converter with the drain plug.
I am thinking Nick's "magic" pump caused a vacuum and "pulled" the fluid out of the torque converter. Maybe not "home made" bread, but pretty cool, non the less.
My $.02
LarryB
Nick, Whatever you do for your day job, QUIT!! Write a book. I just finished the other thread you wrote. Your killin me
The phone book and the divorce lawyer put me right over the edge!
Nick's description was in regard to the trans fluid change. Auto transmissions are hard to get all the fluid out, since the fluid is stuck in the torque converter.
Typically on a Honda Accord you get only 2.5 quarts when you drain it using the plug. (never did an Odyssey)Because... you cannot empty the torque converter with the drain plug.
I am thinking Nick's "magic" pump caused a vacuum and "pulled" the fluid out of the torque converter. Maybe not "home made" bread, but pretty cool, non the less.
My $.02
LarryB
Nick, Whatever you do for your day job, QUIT!! Write a book. I just finished the other thread you wrote. Your killin me
