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From TGS2004 comes the shocking announcement....GT4 WILL make Christmas, but without online!!!! I'm so bummed! Online will come in early 2005...I guess they couldn't work out all the bugs in time for Christmas.

But never fear, there's a lot of good news in their announcement. The car count now exceeds 650 (your garage has room for 1000...so you can have various combinations of colors and tunings) from a list of 80+ manufacturers. All of the cars' engine sounds have been re-recorded and the improved audio will be further enhanced by supporting Dolby Pro Logic II.

Infineon Raceway, Suzuka, Twin-Ring Motegi join the list of 50+ courses...and there's a gorgeous new "El Capitan" course set in Yosemite. The courses from previous GT games have gotten a GT4 makeover which will make them look even better than before...and, with Laguna Seca, more accurate!

There's a new B-Spec = Director Mode where you determine your driver's race strategy rather than actually take the wheel, pushing buttons to determine the intensity level, when your driver should overtake an opponent, and when your driver should enter the pits. You can view the option from one of three view types.

As expected, the photo feature has two modes: "Travel" for placing cars within famous locations and "Drive" which uses your replays to capture action shots from the various tracks. Photo mode comes complete with focal length control, fstop for controlling depth of field, and shutter speed for controlling motion blur...and USB printer support for making 4x6 prints.

The game WILL ship with LAN support, so 6 player games are still possible, just not yet over the Internet. What a crime...this game looks AMAZING!
 
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I just found this on www.granturismoworld.com:

09/24/04 / New GT4 revelations ignite Tokyo Games Show

After months - years, even - of secrecy surrounding the specifics of Gran Turismo 4's modes, tracks, vehicles and features, Polyphony has chosen this year's Tokyo Games Show to unveil a mind-boggling array of new details that are guaranteed to send GT fans into an uncontrollable lather.

Amazingly, the huge list of new information you're about to read still doesn't reveal absolutely everything that GT4 has tucked away in its gargantuan showroom. But before you even consider pondering just what else Kaz and co could possibly squeeze into what is undoubtedly the finest driving game known to man, gorge yourself on this feast of fantastic facts:

B-Spec = Director Mode

More than a rather abstract equation, B-Spec = Director Mode is a completely new option that takes you out of the driver's seat and into the plush leather swivel chair of a race team manager. Revealingly described as a "Gran Turismo that players don't drive", B-Spec = Director Mode gives you the opportunity to command an AI-controlled driver instead of directly participating in a race.

Interestingly, the B-Spec option sits in tandem with the existing A-Spec (i.e. standard racing) in GT Mode, allowing you to decide when you want to drive and when you want to sit back and dish out instructions from the pits. If you wish, you can actually play through the entirety of GT Mode in a completely non-participatory fashion, which is great news for all of you auto-loving types who prefer to leave the driving to the (virtual) professionals.

Rather than seeing the action from the traditional GT racing perspective, directors will be able to choose from three view types: Broadcast View (replay-style camera angles), On-Board Camera (one for each car) and Race Monitor Screen. The latter provides vital information on every competing vehicle, including lap times, split times, the time difference compared to the other racers, and which laps were used for pit stops. All this data will help you get the measure of the competition and judge your driver's comparative performance.

Fine tuning of your vehicle in B-Spec is even more important than when you're participating yourself; you'll have to conduct tests on your settings and tyre selection before each race to ensure that the car is optimised for your proposed strategies in the next race.

Once a race is underway, you'll be able to put your tactics into practice using a variety of command options. Pace Command lets you give your driver pace instructions on a five-level scale, Easy to Hard - the easier the pace, the safer the race. While this will save on tyre wear, you'll have to push hard at times, taking risks in order outpace your rivals. However, any pace commands can be overridden by the Overtake Command, which automatically instructs the AI to prioritise passing the car in front. Finally, the rather self-explanatory Pit In Command orders your driver to enter the pit lane, giving you the option to adjust the tyre selection and the amount of fuel required for refuelling.

Gran Turismo Resort

GT Mode expands to great effect with the introduction of the Gran Turismo Resort, a "Motor Resort City" filled with a staggering range of facilities. Starting at My Home (your garage), you'll have the chance to visit and explore a variety of areas that have been designed to exploit every facet of the driving experience.

You'll need a car before you do anything, so the Car Towns will no doubt be your first port of call. These auto-loving municipalities are divided up by territory and consist of dealerships for GT4's 80-plus manufacturers and 650-plus cars. Although the emphasis will be on cars produced in the 80s and 90s, the full list includes cars ranging from the dawn of the automobile age to the present day. You'll also find Tuner's Village, which offers a selection of famous car tuning shops, and there's even a number of used car dealerships and shops that offer affordable choices for the first-time buyer, as well as vintage models for the seasoned collector.

When you're actually ready to get on the track, a trip to the Race Event Pavilions or suburban Circuit Areas will open up a world of racing events. In traditional GT fashion, these events will be divided up by a number of categories, such as race/track type, vehicle type/model and required licenses.

Speaking of licenses, the License Test Centre returns to frustrate and delight drivers in equal measure yet again, albeit on a much larger scale - pretty much like just about everything else in GT4, in fact. Finally, the Music Theatre allows you to step away from the hustle and bustle of the GT World for a while, giving you the chance to sit back and enjoy choice cuts from GT4's soundtrack.

What may come as a surprise is that these myriad facilities apparently offer a glimpse of what the Gran Turismo Resort has to offer - no doubt all will be revealed closer to GT4's release.

"The heart of a traveller"

A key phrase for the game, it seems; GT4 features the widest selection of tracks in a Gran Turismo title yet, from beautifully realised real-life racing circuits, city locations and natural environments, to a heap of classic fictional GT tracks. The current total stands at 31, although it's promised that more will be announced at an unspecified later date. Here's the latest list in full:

Japanese circuits

Fuji Speedway '80
Fuji Speedway '90
Tsukuba Circuit 2000
Twin Ring Motegi (full course)
Twin Ring Motegi (Oval Track)
Suzuka Circuit (full course)


North American Circuits

Laguna Seca Raceway
Sears Point Raceway


European Circuits

Nurburgring Nordschleife

City Courses

Tokyo R246
Seattle
New York
Hong Kong
Las Vegas Drag Strip
George V Paris
Opera Paris
Cote D'Azur
Special Stage Route 5
Citta di Aria


Nature Courses

Grand Canyon
Swiss Alps
Ice Arena
Grand Valley
Trial Mountain
Midfield Raceway
Snow Lake
High Speed Ring
Amalfee Circuit
Motorsports Land
Tahiti Maze
Autumn Ring


Look out for a more detailed track run-down in a future Gran Turismo World update.

Photo Mode

A few new details regarding the previously-announced Photo Mode have been revealed - the mid-race and stage location photography options have now been dubbed "Photo Drive" and "Photo Travel" respectively. In addition, 15 locations have been confirmed for the latter option. These are:

Gion District - Kyoto, Japan
Nanzenji Temple - Kyoto, Japan
Sagano - Kyoto, Japan
Tsumago - Nagano, Japan
Piazza San Marco - Venice, Italy
Realto Bridge - Venice, Italy
Shibuya - Tokyo, Japan
Tokyo International Forum - Tokyo, Japan
Shiga Kogen - Nagano, Japan
Brooklyn - New York NY, USA
Times Square - New York NY, USA
Asian Fish Market
Freemont Street - Las Vegas NV, USA
Louisberg Square - Boston MA, USA
Grand Canyon Pima Point - AZ, USA
"The Human Aspect"

While the Gran Turismo has always excelled in portraying cars and their surrounding environment in increasingly meticulous detail, there's always been one element conspicuous by its absence: people. GT4 rectifies this situation, replicating the movement of the driver, pit crew and spectators with Polyphony's now-trademark panache. This vital inclusion completes the triumvirate of "cars, people and nature" that Polyphony has always strived to achieve, bringing the GT series one huge step closer to reality.

The drive of your life

Naturally, a number of important enhancements have been made to the actual driving experience to ensure that GT's ever-present 'Real Driving Simulator' tagline is more relevant than ever. The car physics simulation is now so accurate that GT4 can be used for practising sports driving in real life - if you achieve a certain time in a specific car on a specific circuit in GT4, you can guarantee that you'll achieve almost precisely the same time were you to recreate the conditions in real life.

This will be particularly noticeable when you start modifying your vehicle; changes you make will effect the car's performance more subtly and hence more realistically. Superchargers and NOS (Nitrous Oxide Systems) have now been added to the selection, which will allow you to turn your ride into a fearsome speed machine.

Beginners will be delighted to learn that the Driver Assist Functions - anti-lock brakes, traction control systems and active stability control - all make their welcome return, along with the brand new active steering function. If your skills aren't entirely up to scratch yet, the DAFs ensure that you'll still have an enjoyable drive.

Mission races

Another new concept to be debuted in GT4 is the mission-based racing event. Much like the 'scenario' modes seen in a number of football titles, these mission races won't necessarily begin at the starting grid. For example, you may be required to win a race from a few seconds - or even a full lap - behind the opposition. Polyphony has introduced this option to give you the chance to instantly experience typical dramatic racing situations, as well enjoy the challenge of trying to clear the mission objectives.

High scores

Finally (yes, really), there's the newly-implemented high score system. Typically, races in GT have imposed all sorts of race regulations - tyre types, maximum horsepower, etc. - which has restricted the variety of cars allowed to compete in certain events. GT4 omits many of these regulations in favour of a high score system which lets you earn points from successful races based on the vehicle and modifications you use.

Win a race at a disadvantage - driving a 200hp car in a 400hp race, for example - and you'll earn more points than, say, winning the race in a 600hp motor. In effect, this gives you the chance to play through the game as you wish, whether you prefer to progress quickly at the expense of points, or to take the risk and drive at a disadvantage to send your scores soaring.

That's it for now, but keep your eyes trained on GranTurismoWorld.com in the coming weeks for more news, screens, downloads - and much, much more besides.
 
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So how are they going to add online capability later? will it be a whole new game?
 
vtecNSX1 said:
So how are they going to add online capability later? will it be a whole new game?

I've been reading a LOT of speculation on this. From what I'm gathering, online may simply be a feature that won't be unlocked until the servers are up and running...or it may be sold as a separate online-only product (presumably at a lower cost). Either way, we won't see it going online until early next year.

BTW, have you guys seen the redesigned PS2? It's TINY!

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Another updated official car list (still short of the 650+ promised cars):

Acura
CL 3.2 Type S (2000)
CL 3.2 Type S (2003)
Integra Type R (2001)

AlfaRomeo
147 GTA (2002)
155 V6 TI (1993)
156 2.5 V6 24V (1999)
Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 (1965)
GTV 3.0 V6 24V (2001)
Spider Duetto (1966)

Alpine/Renault
A110 1600S (1973)

Amuse
S2000 (2004)

ASL
ARTA Graiya (2003)
Graiya (2002)

AstonMartin
Vanquish (2004)

Audi
A2 1.4 (2002)
A3 3.2 Quattro (2003)
Quattro (1982)
RS6 (2002)
S3 (2002)
S4 (2002)
TT 1.8 Quattro (2000)
TT ABT Touring Car (2002)

Autobianch
A112 Abarth (1979)

Blitz
ER34 Blitz D1spec 2004 (2004)

BMW
120d (2004)
120i (2004)
M Coupe (1998)
M3 (2004)
M3 CSL (2003)
M5 (2005)
Z4 3.0i (2003)

BMW Motorsport
320i Touring Car (2003)
M3 GTR (2003)
M3 GTR Race Car #42 (2003)
McLaren F1 GTR (1997)
V12 Race Car #15 (1999)

Buick
GNX (1987)
Special (1962)

Cadillac
CIEN (2002)

Callaway
C12 (2003)

Chevrolet
Camaro IROC-Z Concept (1988)
Camaro SS (2000)
Camaro Z28 Coupe (1997)
Chevelle SS 454 (1970)
Corvette C5R (2000)
Corvette Convertible (1954)
Corvette Coupe (1963)
Corvette Stingray L46 350 (1969)
Corvette Z06 (1963)
SSR '03 (2003)

Chrysler
Crossfire (2004)
SRT4 (----)
Viper GTS (1999)
Viper GTSR (2000)
Viper SRT10 (----)

Citroen
C3 1.6 (2002)
C5 V6 Exclusive (2003)
Xsantia 3.0i V6 Exclusive (2000)

Fiat
500F (1965)
Barchetta Giovane Due (2000)
Coupe Turbo Plus (2000)
Panda Super i.e. (1990)
Punto HGT Abarth (2000)

Ford
Escort Rally Car (1998)
Focus Rally Car (1999)
RS200 (1984)
Ford GT (2005)
GT40 Race Car (1969)
Mustang GT (2005)
Mustang SVT Cobra R (2000)
Taurus SHO (1998)

Ginetta
G4 (1964)

HKS
Genki Hyper Sylvia (2004)

Hommell
RS Berlinette (2002)

Honda
CR-X SiR (1990)
CR-X DelSol SiR (1992)
N360 (1967)
NSX (1999)
NSX (2001)
NSX Type R (1992)
NSX Type R (2002)
NSX Type S (1997)
NSX Type S (2001)
NSX Type S Zero (1997)
NSX Type S Zero (1999)
NSX-R Prototype LM Race Car (2001)
S2000 (2003)
S2000 Type V (2003)
S500 (1963)
S600 (1964)
S800 (1966)
Z ACT (1970)
Accord Coupe EX V6 6speed (2003)
Accord Coupe (1988)
Insight (1999)
Integra Type R (1999)
Integra Type R (2003)
Integra Type R 98 spec (1998)
Integra Type R LM Race Car (2001)
Integra Type R (1995)
City Turbo II (1983)
Civic SiR-II (EG) (1991)
Civic SiR-II (EG) (1993)
Civic Type R (EK) (1997)
Civic Type R (EK) (1998)
Civic Type R (EG) (2001)
Civic Type R (EG) (2004)
Prelude Si VTEC (1991)
Prelude SiR (1996)
Prelude Type S (1996)
Prelude Type S (1998)

Hyundai
CLIX (2001)
Coupe (2001)

Isuzu
117 Coupe (1968)
Bellett 1600 GT-R (1969)
Piazza XE (1985)

Jaguar
E-Type Coupe (1961)
S-Type R (2002)
XJ220 Race Car (1992)
XKR Coupe (2002)

Jensen
Interceptor MkIII (1974)


Lancia
Delta HF Integrale Evolutione (1991)
Delta HF Integrale Rally Car (1992)
Delta S4 Rally Car (1985)
Stratos Rally Car (1977)


Lotus
Carlton (1990)
Elan Series 1 (1962)
Elise (2000)
Elise 111R (2004)
Elise 190 (1998)
Esprit Sport 350 (2000)
Esprit Turbo HC (1987)
Esprit V8 GT (1998)
Europa Special (1971)
Motor Sport Elise (1999)

Marcos
Mini Macos GT MkIII (1970)

Mazda
787B (1991)
RX-7 Spirit R Type A (2002)
RX-8 (2003)
RX-8 Type S (2003)


Mercedes-Benz
190E 2.5-16V Evolution II (1991)
190E 2.5-16V Evolution II Touring Car (1992)
300SL Coupe (1954)
A 160 (1998)
CLK GTR Race Car #2 (1998)
Sauber Mercedes C9 (1998)
SL 500 (1998)
SL 600 (2004)
SL 55 AMG (2002)
SL 65 AMG (2004)

Mercury
Cougar XR-7 (1967)

Mine's
Skyline GT-R N1 Vspec (R34) (2000)
Lancer Evolution VI (2000)

Mini/BMW
Cooper-S (2002)

Mitsubishi
FTO GP Version R (1997)
FTO LM Race Car (----)
GTO Twin Turbo (1995)
i (2003)
Eclipse Spider GTS (2003)
Eclipse GT (1995)
Colt 1.5 Sport X Version (2002)
Stallion 4WD Rally Car (1984)
Mirage 1400GLX (1987)
Mirage Cyborg ZR (1997)
Lancer 1600 GSR (1974)
Lancer Evolution GSR (1992)
Lancer Evolution III GSR (1996)
Lancer Evolution IV Rally Car (1997)
Lancer Evolution V GSR (1998)
Lancer Evolution VI GSR (1999)
Lancer Evolution VII GSR (2001)
Lancer Evolution VIII GSR (2003)
Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR (2004)

Nismo
400R (1996)
Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) (1990)
Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) (2003)

Nissan
240RS Rally Car (1985)
Be-1 (1987)
R390 GT1 Race Car #32 (1998)
R89C (1989)
Skyline Hardtop 2000GT-R (1970)
Skyline 2000GT-R (1973)
Skyline Hardtop 2000 Turbo RS (1983)
Skyline Hardtop 2000 RS-X Turbo C (1984)
Skyline GTS-R (1987)
Skyline GTS-t Type M )R32) (1991)
Skyline GT-R V-spec N1 (1999)
Skyline GT-R M-spec Nur (2000)
Skyline GT-R Special Color Midnight Purple (2000)
Skyline GT-R V-spec II N1 (2000)
Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nur (R34) (2002)
Skyline Coupe 350GT (2003)
Falcon GT-R Nurbrugring 24h (R34) (2004)
Fairlady 2000 (1968)
Fairlady 240ZG (1971)
Fairlady Z Gran Series Aero (2002)
Fairlady Z Roadster (2003)
Fairlady Z Version S (6MT) (2002)

Opel
Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix) (2000)
Caribra Touring Car (1995)
Corsa Comfort 1.4 16V Z14XE (2001)
Trigra 1.6i (1999)
Vectra 3.2 V6 (2003)

Pagani
Zonda C12S 7.3 (2002)
Zonda LM Race Car (----)

Panoz
Esperante GTR-1 (1998)

Pescarolo
Courage C60/Peugeot #17 (2003)
PlayStation Pescarolo C60 LMP Judd (2004)

Peugeot
106 Rallye (2003)
106 S16 (2003)
205 T16 (1985)
205 Turbo 16 Evolution 2 Rally Car (1986)
205 Turbo 16 Rally Car (1985)
206 Rally Car (1999)
206cc (2001)
406 3.0 V6 Coupe (1998)

Plymouth
Cuda 440 Six Pack (1971)

Pontiac
Sunfire GXP Concept (2002)
Tempest Le Mans GTO (1964)
Vibe GT (2002)

Renault
5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car (1985)
5 Turbo (1980)
Avantime (2002)
Lutecia Renault Sport 2.0 16V (2002)
Lutecia Renault Sport V6 24V
Lutecia Renault Sports Race Car (2000)

Rover/BMW
Mini Cooper 1.3i (1998)

RUF
3400S (2000)
BTR (1986)
CTR "Yellow Bird" (1987)
CTR2 (1996)
RGT (2000)

Saleen
S7 (2002)

Shelby
Cobra 427 (1967)
Series 1 Super Charged (2003)

Spoon
Integra Type R (1999)

Subaru
Cusco Subaru Advan Impreza (2003)
Impreza Coupe WRX Type R STi Version VI (1999)
Impreza Sportswagon STi (2000)
Impreza Sedan WRX STi Prodrive Style (2001)
Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version VI (1999)
Impreza Sedan WRX STi (GC) (1994)
Impreza Sedan WRX STi (GD Type-II) (2002)
Impreza Premium Sports Coupe 22B-STi Version (1998)
Impreza Wagon WRX STi Version VI (GC) (1999)
Legacy B4 2.0GT (2003)
Legacy B4 2.0GT specB (2003)
Legacy B4 3.0R (2003)
Legacy Touring Wagon 2.0GT (2003)
Legacy Touring Wagon 2.0GT specB (2003)
Legacy Touring Wagon 3.0R (2003)
Legacy Touring Wagon GT-B (1996)

Suzuki
MR Wagon Sports (2004)
Cappuccino (1991)
Cappuccino (1995)
Concept-S2 (2003)

Toyota
GT-ONE Race Car (TS020) (1999)
ist 1.5S 2WD (2002)
MR2 1600 G (1986)
MR2 1600 G-Limited Super Charger (1986)
MR2 GT-S (1997)
MTR Concept (2004)
Corolla Rally Car (1998)
Supra 2.5GT Twin Turbo R (1990)
Supra 3.0GT Turbo A (1988)
Supra RZ(1997)
Celica 1600GT (A160) (1970)
Celica 2000GT-FOUR RC (1986)
Celica 2000GT-R (1986)
Celica GT-FOUR RC (ST185) (1991)
Celica GT-FOUR (ST205) (1998)
Celica GT-R (4WS) (1991)
Celica XX 2800GT (1981)
Celica Rally Car (1995)
Prius G Touring Selection (2003)

Toyota Modellista
Celica TRD Sports M (2000)

Trial
Celica (ZZT231) SS-II (2003)

TVR
Cerbera Speed 12 (2000)
Cerbera Speed Six (1997)
T350C (2003)
Tamora (2002)
Tuscan Speed 8 (2000)
V8S (1991)

Volkswagen
Beetle 1100 Standard (Type-11) (1949)
Bora V6 4Motion (2001)
Golf IV R32 (2003)
Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) (1968)
Lupo GTI Cup Car (2003)
Lupo1.4 (2002)
W12 (2001)

Volvo
240 GLT Estate (1988)
S60 T 5 Sport (2003)
 
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I'm a little disappointed at the missing american muscle cars. Even GT2 had road runners and camaros. That was some of the best racing I ever had building up big heavy muscle cars and trying to outmaneuver them around laguna.
 
paladin said:
I'm a little disappointed at the missing american muscle cars. Even GT2 had road runners and camaros. That was some of the best racing I ever had building up big heavy muscle cars and trying to outmaneuver them around laguna.

I don't think the muscle cars are missing...they're just not included on this version of the list.
 
hlweyl said:
No Ferrari's in the game? What snobs!

This has long been a problem for the GT series...for whatever reason, they either haven't been able to or haven't been willing to pay the expensive licensing fees.

A few months back, Ferraris appeared in behind-the-scenes video footage of the GT development team conducting their real-world research...causing us to speculate that Ferraris may quietly find their way into GT4 before the game ships. And, since this isn't a full list, there's still hope. But, considering they dropped the ball on their much hyped online mode, I'm not counting on Ferraris making it into the final game.
 
serialNSXer said:
These two links fail result in error 404! Only me?

Is the GT4 Logitech wheel coming out for Christmas?

I just realized you can't link to them directly...so I've updated my post accordingly.

As for the GT4 Logitech wheel...it's already out.
 
Ya the wheel has been out for a while. I already have it and it works great. As for the Ferrari's i read that the reason theyre not in game is because Electronic Arts still has licensing? I dont know if its true or not just what ive read around on different forums.
 
vtecNSX1 said:
Ya the wheel has been out for a while.

Funny thing is that I "preordered" it from Best Buy last month for a ridiculously low $49.99. The wheel has been available for almost a year!

Of course, I haven't received it yet...hope it wasn't a mistake :D

BTW, here are some size comparison pics of the redesigned PS2.
 
Main speculation on why Ferrari and specifically Lambo have never made it to a GT game is that the carmakers refused to allow their cars to be in games where they were not the dominant car. i.e. Lambo had no problem having the diablo in the original high pursuit, since it was the best car. Ferrari was willing to let Project Gotham 1 and 2 and the cover art for both games featured a ferrari (F50 first game, then Enzo).

So, if Polyphony really wanted those guys, they would have to compromise the integrity of their game, and unbalance these cars. I say leave 'em out if they want to act like that. The more kids grow up loving the exotics in games they can actually play, the more likely they'll go there in the future. Its been proven.

Oh, and i retract my prefious statement about lack of muscle cars. that must be a slightly older list, as i just got this from the latest tgs update from gamespot
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/granturismo4/screens.html?page=726
 
paladin said:
Main speculation on why Ferrari and specifically Lambo have never made it to a GT game is that the carmakers refused to allow their cars to be in games where they were not the dominant car.

I guess Ferrari and Porsche (not in the GT game too, it's only Ruf as an own manufacturer with P-cars) have simply contracts with other gamemakers. e.g. Ferrari challenge was SEGA. Of course this game and "Need for speed - Porsche" where one brand games so it's always a F- or P-car that wins.

Lambo may not be the problem in the future since it's a Audi daughter nowadays and Audi's already in the GT games.
 
Ahem, there IS a Lambo car in GT3.
Really? You are making me go digging out my GT3 again? How can i get it?

I always wonder if they can put Porsches thru Ruf in the game, if I was the executives in GT4 office, I would at least knocking the doors of Prodrive, Hamman, Tubi or even Koenig, since they are some of the famous aftermarket tuners for Ferrari. And we'll be benefit driving a modify Ferrari, which, even one day we will be able to afford a Ferrari, we would not have guts to modify it..

did anyone notice that they didn't have any of those Veilside cars in the game, thank god I won't see that ugly nsx in the game.
 
Ponyboy said:
Ahem, there IS a Lambo car in GT3. ;)

Polyphony Digital tried to sneak it into GT3 as a unique car (since it is a GT race car, not a street car), but they had to cut it from the US version due to legal issues.

Here are some new GT4 shots:

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Im a huge gt fan but the game's steering is not what i like. The one thing that gt should do is add a clutch button for the manual mode.
 
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