Got Pulled Over Doing 105 MPH
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I just want to point out that an empty road at 3am does not make for safe speeding. 3am is dark. Your visibility is considerably reduced, even with street lights.
At 105 mph you are going 154 feet per second. That's a little over half of a football field. Per second. Human reaction time to road stimuli varies a lot, from 1s to 5s, but a typical time is about 2s. That means anything you want to react to has to be at least a football field ahead of you if you're going to react to it before you get to it, and that's assuming zero actual time for the reaction to take effect, which is not at all realistic. That's also assuming that the stimuli is not the type that takes as long as 5s to react to, which is a possibility.
You're absolutely outdriving your headlights, and you better have the eyes of an eagle if you're relying on street lights to show you what's one (or two) football fields ahead of you in their meager light, because it might be something that doesn't have tail lights or reflectors, e.g. a piece of 4x4 lumber that fell off of a truck 20 minutes ago between the pools of light.
(Apologies to the rest of the world for using football fields as a unit of measure. They're 90m long.)
At 105 mph you are going 154 feet per second. That's a little over half of a football field. Per second. Human reaction time to road stimuli varies a lot, from 1s to 5s, but a typical time is about 2s. That means anything you want to react to has to be at least a football field ahead of you if you're going to react to it before you get to it, and that's assuming zero actual time for the reaction to take effect, which is not at all realistic. That's also assuming that the stimuli is not the type that takes as long as 5s to react to, which is a possibility.
You're absolutely outdriving your headlights, and you better have the eyes of an eagle if you're relying on street lights to show you what's one (or two) football fields ahead of you in their meager light, because it might be something that doesn't have tail lights or reflectors, e.g. a piece of 4x4 lumber that fell off of a truck 20 minutes ago between the pools of light.
(Apologies to the rest of the world for using football fields as a unit of measure. They're 90m long.)
Aiken Drum said:
2 seconds? i dont know about that one. perhaps if you were paying only minimal attention to your driving. If/when you are going that fast, you're being very attentive, and can probably react better than that (hooray for video games!)
I disagree about the reaction time but agree with everything else. There are several neat java applets on various web sites where you can play around with speed and braking and so on. Most of the ones that I looked at seemed to indicate reaction times of around .3 - .36 seconds.
Google reaction times and you'll see some sites with more.
Google reaction times and you'll see some sites with more.
I did google reaction times when I wrote that post. I found a study that looked at actual driver reaction times to unexpected stimuli on a highway. You can't use those java applets, they have you ready and poised to react to a known and expected stimulus. A real situation takes time to recognize and time to decide on a solution.
As for driving with heightened senses when going very fast, that's true, but you can only do it for just so long before you start to relax. The adrenaline rush only lasts a little while.
As for driving with heightened senses when going very fast, that's true, but you can only do it for just so long before you start to relax. The adrenaline rush only lasts a little while.
charleysung said:
GET A LAWYER!!
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GET A LAWYER!!
He (Charley, the originator of this thread) is a lawyer.
To me it is ironic
that as a lawyer he is asking us for legal advice.
He (Charley, the originator of this thread) is a lawyer.
To me it is ironic
that as a lawyer he is asking us for legal advice.AndyVecsey said:To me it is ironic
i agree... because there is only one type of law in this country and anyone holding a JD should be an expert in all aspects of law.
nicholas421 said:
nicholas421 said:
ouch, the sarcasm.
Yes, I am a lawyer, but my primary practice area is commercial litigation and I probably know less than the average Joe about anything related to traffic violations.
I did get a lawyer for my November 16 court appearance. I hate being on the receiving end of a legal bill. Who knew lawyers could be so damn expensive.
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AndyVecsey said:To me it is ironic
Hey Andy, Nicholas421 and White94, I need your advice... next time a friend of mine needs surgery should I recommend him my dentist instead of a cardiologue? They're both doctors and both did med school, right ? After all, I've heard my dentist has done plenty of surgeries and he'd be cheaper too !
so charley, how did it go?
by the way, I reckon from all the heated discussion over this 105MPH speeding incident you lot might find this speeding thread quite interesting :biggrin:
by the way, I reckon from all the heated discussion over this 105MPH speeding incident you lot might find this speeding thread quite interesting :biggrin:
Posts about speeding are always heated discussions....between the people that think you are a time bomb on wheels if you speed, to the people that think if you are not speeding you are are just blocking the road.....well, lets just say those two sides never really see eye to eye. :biggrin:
I went to court yesterday and this case has finally come to a close.
For those of you that are not familiar with this thread, I received three tickets when I got pulled over doing 105: (1) speeding 105 in a 65; (2) reckless driving; and (3) excessive speed.
I hired a lawyer for $615. My lawyer spoke with the prosecutor before my hearing, and negotiated a plea. I agreed to plead guilty to speeding and the prosecutor agreed to drop the reckless driving and excessive speed charges. For the speeding charge, I had to pay $433 and take 5 points.
At the end of the hearing, the judge asked me "so why were you going so fast?" I wanted to reply "because I couldn't wait to hit the blackjack tables," but instead, I replied "I have no excuse your honor."
My lawyer explained that the points from NJ are supposed to transfer to my VA license. He did note that a lot of times, the points will not because it will get lost in the bureaucracy.
There have been a lot of replies to this post about what I should or should not have done, the lives I endangered, etc. Here are some of my thoughts after this experience:
1) I think everybody agrees that speeding is dangerous. It poses a danger to the occupants of the speeding car as well as to others on the road. It's dangerous whether it's done in an NSX or a 2 ton truck.
2) I should not have been going so fast. Road and weather conditions clearly affect the degree of danger posed by speeding. I was somewhat justified in driving the way I did because of the road conditions - it was a clear dry night on a well lit four lane highway without a car in sight.
3) Everybody speeds, especially if you own an NSX. So to those of you that criticized my for being irresponsible and breaking the law, yes, I acknowledge I was irresponsible. But I am sure you have hit 100mph too.
4) While knowing that I broke the law, I tried to minimize the penalty. You would do the same.
For those of you that are not familiar with this thread, I received three tickets when I got pulled over doing 105: (1) speeding 105 in a 65; (2) reckless driving; and (3) excessive speed.
I hired a lawyer for $615. My lawyer spoke with the prosecutor before my hearing, and negotiated a plea. I agreed to plead guilty to speeding and the prosecutor agreed to drop the reckless driving and excessive speed charges. For the speeding charge, I had to pay $433 and take 5 points.
At the end of the hearing, the judge asked me "so why were you going so fast?" I wanted to reply "because I couldn't wait to hit the blackjack tables," but instead, I replied "I have no excuse your honor."
My lawyer explained that the points from NJ are supposed to transfer to my VA license. He did note that a lot of times, the points will not because it will get lost in the bureaucracy.
There have been a lot of replies to this post about what I should or should not have done, the lives I endangered, etc. Here are some of my thoughts after this experience:
1) I think everybody agrees that speeding is dangerous. It poses a danger to the occupants of the speeding car as well as to others on the road. It's dangerous whether it's done in an NSX or a 2 ton truck.
2) I should not have been going so fast. Road and weather conditions clearly affect the degree of danger posed by speeding. I was somewhat justified in driving the way I did because of the road conditions - it was a clear dry night on a well lit four lane highway without a car in sight.
3) Everybody speeds, especially if you own an NSX. So to those of you that criticized my for being irresponsible and breaking the law, yes, I acknowledge I was irresponsible. But I am sure you have hit 100mph too.
4) While knowing that I broke the law, I tried to minimize the penalty. You would do the same.
charleysung said:
Apparently there was one car in sight. When I got pulled over I told the cop that there were other cars on the road. He said his car was!
Glad to hear it got resolved.
And, I think we've ALL driven in excess of 100 mph. Sheesh.
ChopsJazz said:Apparently there was one car in sight. When I got pulled over I told the cop that there were other cars on the road. He said his car was!
Glad to hear it got resolved.
And, I think we've ALL driven in excess of 100 mph. Sheesh.
I bet I am one of the only ones who actually PASSED the policeman going the SAME WAY on the highway...and I was going over 100 mph....yeah, that was a fun day. :biggrin:
apapada said:I swear I have NEVER gone in excess of 100mph...
... in second gear
Some of us wish we could say the same . . . :frown:
Missed shift ?
3rd into 2nd at 110 mph = 10,500 rpm for 0.3 seconds = bent valves = :frown:
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Charley, glad it worked out...definitely could have been worse. I'm sure we all agree that 100mph is obviously less safe than 65mph, but it is a sports car after all and we've all been guilty of speeding at one time or another...I for one have been roadblocked unfortunately. Never again. What is rediculous however, is the 55mph speed limit we are straddled with here...but I won't step up to my soap box.
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brahtw8 said:
I am not one of them....I personally like driving the NSX at over 100 mph. :smile:
Meeyatch1 said:
You missed the point.
I love driving my NSX over 100 MPH, just not in 2nd gear.
Wish I had found this thread sooner.....About 2 months after I got my NSX, (this was back in '98). I was pulled over for doing 125mph in New Jersey. It was very early in the morning and no there were no other cars in sight. Suddenly, in my rear view mirror, I see the headlights of a car hell bent on catching up to me. Well, I said to myself, that's either a cop, or somebody that wants to race. I slowed down a bit to see just who, or what it was. When they got close enough I could see that the headlights belonged to a Crown Vic. After he pulled me over the trooper asked if I knew how fast I was going. I told him that I did'nt know. He stated that he was doing 110mph and that I was pulling away from him. When he told me that the fine was over $700, I was not a happy camper. He asked what was I doing going that fast. I replied quite honestly that I wanted to drive the car like it was meant to be driven, and I thought I could do it at that time of the day WITHOUT BEING A DANGER TO ANYBODY BUT MYSELF. He was taken by my candor and surprised me with a ticket for 74 in a 55; no points and a comparatively small fine. As he pulled away after giving me the ticket. I found that the horseshoe under my butt was rusted from sweat, the rabbit's foot on my keychain was arthritic, the 4 leaf clover on the rear view mirror had turned to dust, and St Christopher on the dash was sporting horns & hooves and singing, "Gin and Juice?" by Snoop Dogg..... :tongue:
