Failed Smog!!!

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Yikes! I failed the smog test. Failed the 15 mph roll and passed the 25mph roll. Everything else passed okay and timing was checked and fine. it failed by a little. They said i need cats. I really don't want to replace the cats. what else can i do? Does anybody know where i can take it maybe they'll take a nice tip. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: i'm in LA county.. I'm going to start my turbo install in about two weeks so i wan't to get this out of the way. thanks
Warren
 
Are you looking to get it to pass legally or just looking for someone who takes bribes? For the former we would need to know the numbers. For the latter you should have that figured out before you put a turbo on the car.
 
The cats work when it's really hot.

Did you keep the car running prior to the actual test? Keeping the engine running prior to the test might help next time you take the test might help.

If not, PM me.
 
Post the numbers, but assuming it's close since it passed at 25mph

If you get cats good & hot, get it tested again without letting it cool - it should pass.
Even if it fails immediately because it had cooled off while waiting (& while they do the other tests etc) ask for him to run it again. Go somewhere it's not busy so they can a) get it on right away & b) retest if it is marginal.
If it's way off they won't re-run, but if marginal they should do that for you.
 
they where nice and toasty. I just finished driving about 35 miles had it immediately smoged without turning it off. what's next? i'll post the number up in a bit.
 
tune up, run a bottle of octane booster, fill it up full and take it on the highway to warm up the cats before stoping by the smog shop. Before they run your car. ask the guy the hold your car at 3000+RPM for 30 seconds for the cats to warm up.

there are a few other tricks which are legal.

if your in socal, we can tune up your car and get your car passed.
 
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Post the numbers, but assuming it's close since it passed at 25mph

If you get cats good & hot, get it tested again without letting it cool - it should pass.
Even if it fails immediately because it had cooled off while waiting (& while they do the other tests etc) ask for him to run it again. Go somewhere it's not busy so they can a) get it on right away & b) retest if it is marginal.
If it's way off they won't re-run, but if marginal they should do that for you.

Westminster/Garden Grove.
 
Also, clean your spark plugs. I haven't had to do that on my NSX, but had to do that w/ my Integra once and it passed after I cleaned the plugs.
 
rxp_bottle_1.jpg

I've used it [poured the whole bottle in with only a 1/4 tank] with better than new results on my 91, and my best friend's BPU+++ Supra. DO NOT RUN THE CAR HARD IF YOU POUR IT IN WITH LESS THAN A 1/4 TANK!!! Autozone part# 214. BTW, I have the CTSC, and had no problems.

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showpost.php?p=407984&postcount=7

http://www.rxp.com/whereto.htm

http://www1.autozone.com/selectedZi...il/initialR,NONAPP1420/shopping/selectZip.htmhttp://www1.autozone.com/servlet/Ui...tSearch&Parameters=RXP+Fuel+Treatment$214$B88
 
rxp_bottle_1.jpg

I've used it [poured the whole bottle in with only a 1/4 tank] with better than new results on my 91, and my best friend's BPU+++ Supra. DO NOT RUN THE CAR HARD IF YOU POUR IT IN WITH LESS THAN A 1/4 TANK!!! Autozone part# 214. BTW, I have the CTSC, and had no problems.

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showpost.php?p=407984&postcount=7

http://www.rxp.com/whereto.htm

http://www1.autozone.com/selectedZi...il/initialR,NONAPP1420/shopping/selectZip.htmhttp://www1.autozone.com/servlet/Ui...tSearch&Parameters=RXP+Fuel+Treatment$214$B88

do you smog it with RXP in the tank? What was your NOx number?
 
wow , those numbers seem a lil high, even for the 25mph, compared to mine. I did notice your RPM's are lower though. Looks like they might have ran your car in 2nd gear instead of first. Here are my numbers


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What year is your car? I have some 1995 Cats I can let you borrow. They're in great shape with <30K miles on them. Just bolt them in take the test and give them back. I'm in Long Beach.
 
What year is your car? I have some 1995 Cats I can let you borrow. They're in great shape with <30K miles on them. Just bolt them in take the test and give them back. I'm in Long Beach.

this is what happened to me. 1992 with comptech headers.
1. failed smog
2. took it to neillo acura they said car was fine
3. talked to independent mechanic who said the problem is almost never the cats and the stock cats are the best. neillo and independent mechanic said to heat up the cats better
4. went back to same smog test station. mechanic said heating up cats will not work and that he did not want me revving the car in his parking lot.
5. i revved the car anyway (big line - could not lose my place)
6. argument ensued.
7. car passed
moral of the story - smog tests/laws are wasteful/flawed idiocy in california.
i bet i was out 300 hundred dollars and several hours of time.
 
Hey man, looking at your result, you didn't seem to fail just by a bit, you failed big time on HC (HydroCarbons) and CO (carbon monoxide).

Here's a list of common causes of HC related smog check failure:

1. Ignition Timing Advanced above specifications.Timing is measured in degrees. before or after Top dead center. If your vehicle is required to be at 10b degrees and instead is set at 16b degrees your HC emissions will increase. ( b = before top dead center ) .

2. Ignition system problems. Parts like the ignition coil, distributor cap, distributor rotor, ignition wires, spark plugs.

3. Vacuum leaks, Gasket leaks that cause vacuum leaks. Broken, disconnected or misrouted vacuum hoses.Vacuum component failure such as a power brake booster.This causes a very large vacuum leak.

4. Catalytic converter failure.

5. Air injection system problems. ( Smog pump and related components )

6. Engine damage (burned valve, low or no compression in one or more cylinders).

7. Sensor problems and or computer problems can cause a Smog Check failure.

You could go on and on for a few more pages, but these are the main causes.
Note - when your CO level is high it will usually bring HC along with it.

What you can do is try to heat-up your cats, drive for like an hour. What I normally do, I go to a smog-places that are like 40miles from my place, so by the time I get there its really hot, and if you have to wait for the smog tech, let your car run, don't turn it off. If you fail again, post the results here. Check if your HC came down and hopefully it did. If it didn't, then you might want to change your cat.

Things that you could do before your next test is a change-oil, then when you got to the smog station (after that long drive), release the pressure from the fuel tank by loosening up the cap and tighten it back-up. My friend told me NOX readings goes-up after the car has been running for a while.

Hope this helps man.

niM
 
Another thing I've read of here that affected a nsx during smog check on the dyno in the past had to do with the TCS. Apparently when the tech would step on it, the tires would slip or something, and the TCS would kick in. This ended up dumping raw fuel out. They deactivated the TCS by pulling the fuse and it passed with flying colors. I'll try to dig it up...

It seems that I was slightly off. Plenty of people suspect the TCS to being a cause. However, no one has proven it that I've seen in my search. This thread has a little bit of info. just a little:

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44735&highlight=traction+control+smog

also peek at post #24, it might help some, maybe.....
 
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What year is your car? I have some 1995 Cats I can let you borrow. They're in great shape with <30K miles on them. Just bolt them in take the test and give them back. I'm in Long Beach.

that would be nice. I'm about 10 min from long beach. I'm going to try the RXP additive. I'll pm you if it doesn't pass.. thanks a bunch. oh it's a 91
 
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