'heavy pigs' was used to decribe mercedes, not the supra. anyway, this discussion is flawed- of course we can talk about different cars but there is NO comparison to nsx in any categorry, they are fundamentally different in every way. my sourpuss attitude toward benz will be understood by any european and anyone who had travelled abroad and found out that those cars, in fact, make great taxicabs but thats it. benz's definition of 'sport' is to stuff bigger and heavier engines in their taxicabs and sell them to americans at double profits. cool.