Driving in the snow...

[gheba_nsx]

A nice driiving training on the snow and ice... fun fun fun!

Sliding???

The two EVO6, the Impreza STI and the 993 Carrera 4 were a lot easier to drive than mine!

 

[martin]

Hi

What the he** have gotten into you Gheba? Out in the snow _and_ sliding around??

You are even crazier than me now!

The sliding picture is awesome!

Regards

 

[gheba_nsx]

It was in a safe environment, with instructor... and NO SALT at all. That was the key... I would never accept salt on my shiny beast!

I have to admit that the slides were a lot of fun!

 

[JAYS NSX]

Looks like a lot of fun.............but those fences and curbs seem little to close for comfort !!

 

[GQ NSX]

*gasp!*


ravi

 

[martin]

Looks like a lot of fun.............but those fences and curbs seem little to close for comfort !!

Yes that was my thought too.. You go off the track and into the armco with or without a instructor if mother nature wants you too

Gheba tell us more. Was this a training course of some kind? Did you drive with summer tires. I see that you still have the "orginal" wheels on. It must have been really slippery.

Regards

 

[gheba_nsx]

Yes, I used my all-seasons 275/30/19 !

The curbs and fences are at least 7-10 meters from the track and the are a lot further in case of a turn... the track is a very small one that is used for extreme weather condition trainings (acquaplanning, ice, fresh snow, compact snow, ...). The "tour" is about 1 minute and you never drive more than 50-60 kmh (35-40mph). But that is more than enopugh to 360 the car in some wide turn!

Specially the NSX... it was with the GT3 the worst car overall!

 

[Meeyatch1]

HAHAHHAAHAH!!! I LOVE IT!!! YES!! I thought I was the only nutcase on here to actually enjoy sliding their NSX around in the snow....I have done that a couple of years in a row and loved the amount you can learn....nice!

 

[cmhs75]

what the hell is that SUV doing there !?!?!



please oh please dont tell me he was side sliding that thing !!

 

[nsxtasy]

Yes, I used my all-seasons 275/30/19 !

I hope you're kidding about that part. Remember, wider tires are WORSE in snow than narrower tires.

If I wanted to get winter tires for my NSX, I'd probably get the stock '91-93 sizes in 205 and 225 treadwidth. Or maybe even something slightly narrower. (And I would never bother with all-season tires - they are only a compromise, in all seasons. )

Specially the NSX... it was with the GT3 the worst car overall!

If you were really using 275 tires, that's not surprising...

 

[gheba_nsx]

what the hell is that SUV doing there !?!?!



please oh please dont tell me he was side sliding that thing !!

Of course she was!

It was a woman driver, the only one that was not originally in our group. The driving school took her as a replacement for a friend of us that could not join us with the Lotus Exige...

 

[gheba_nsx]

I hope you're kidding about that part. Remember, wider tires are WORSE in snow than narrower tires.

If I wanted to get winter tires for my NSX, I'd probably get the stock '91-93 sizes in 205 and 225 treadwidth. Or maybe even something slightly narrower. (And I would never bother with all-season tires - they are only a compromise, in all seasons. )

If you were really using 275 tires, that's not surprising...

Ken I know that wide wheels are worse... I am Swiss you know!
Snow is not really a strange element around here... that is the reason for the three BIG smiles after I wrote the tire size...

What I wanted to do was to try my car in the tires that I always drive. I could have used nail-tires for ice but where is the fun then?

Anyway the Lancers and the Subaru, with 245/255 summer tires were impressive, whatever small vs big tires!

 

[gheba_nsx]

HAHAHHAAHAH!!! I LOVE IT!!! YES!! I thought I was the only nutcase on here to actually enjoy sliding their NSX around in the snow....I have done that a couple of years in a row and loved the amount you can learn....nice!

You are right! You learn a lot about the dynamic of the car and this at a very slow speed. It is a simulation of what can happen at higher speeds on the wet...

 

[nsxtasy]

I could have used nail-tires for ice

In English, we call them studded tires. In some parts of North America (including Illinois, where I live), they are illegal.

 

[gheba_nsx]

Thanks, I did not know the translation...

Here they are legal only if written on the sign and they have to be removed after another sign that signals the end of a zone for studded tires.

 

[cmhs75]

Of course she was!

It was a woman driver, the only one that was not originally in our group. The driving school took her as a replacement for a friend of us that could not join us with the Lotus Exige...

what a replacement. was a huge SUV sliding side ways the event of the day or not!?

 

[gheba_nsx]

No, this was it:

http://www.gardenland.ch/velocelebri/corsoguida/mov00676.mpg

 

[JAYS NSX]

Looks like a lot of fun.............but those fences and curbs seem little to close for comfort !!

After seeing the video, I know you guys are totally nuts!!

Trees, guardrails, curbs...................I am literally ROFLMAO in utter amazement at the confined space, as it appears to me, that you guys are sliding your cars around in!!

I feel sick!!!!!

 

[gheba_nsx]

This exercise was: driving straight at 40kmh (25mph) on the ice, when a light turned yellow hit the brake for an emergency stop and try to keep the car from sliding. When I did hit the brake I had at least 10-12m (35 feet) on both lateral direction and 50m (160 feet) in front of me. There is absolutely no possibility of damaging the car... they do this training every weekend during the whole winter, 10 cars/weekend, and NEVER an accident.

I can't believe people are so scared of everything...

 

[Tony Montoya]

All-season tires give quite good traction in 1-3cm of snow and rain. If there is heavier snow you need snow tires. Think of all-seasons as F1 intermediates.
If I ever drove the NSX in the winter I would put on P7000SS or similiar tires for the late fall and early spring.


PS. That video looked like fun.

 

[gheba_nsx]

Honestly Tony ... I called them all-seasons because I use them in Sommer and Winter... but they are Bridgestone S03!

Of course I do never drive the car on the snow, this was only a driving school but that's it. My snow career is alraedy ended!

 

[martin]

Honestly Tony ... I called them all-seasons because I use them in Sommer and Winter... but they are Bridgestone S03!

Of course I do never drive the car on the snow, this was only a driving school but that's it. My snow career is alraedy ended!

Hi

It is fun thoug to drive on ice/snow with the NSX. I have driven some on very slippery surface on a huge parking lot next to the garage where I have it parked.

It is a good way to practice. You can slide around at low speed and have fun.

Your way is even better taking a course.

Regards

 

[docjohn]

That looks like great fun,and is a wonderful alternative to schools that use "skid cars".I recomend skid training to anyone interrested in high performance driving.Learning to controll a car at the limits of adhesion is a breakthrough in the driving technique hierarchy.Good racers do it in the dry as well as wet,, or in your case frozen wet.BTW in some ways you are right about us americans being amazed at or reluctant to take risks,unfortuneatly that is the downside of such a litiginous society.We are also a country that is obsessed with doing things in a percieved perfect or sure-fire way,thus preventing risk taking.Of course we as individuals are still risk takers in the states just too many legal hurdles to hop across,imo.

 

[JAYS NSX]

What's up Doc?

I agree with all you are saying, but I fear not personal litigation, only vehicular devastation!!

PS

Had a great time at the running of the bulls! (Sans ticket) I got off to take a break cuz we were right by my house. Lucky ME! Hope all worked out.