Day at the track
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I had my RSX in for service to keep the warranty good and it was unbelievable the things they wanted to do and the car hardly had any kms on it. The RSX really needs no major service till 176000km but they sure can make things up to try to keep it in there.
Dealership services are a big rip off -- well with Honda/Acura anyways. I've pretty much told them to screw off and strictly follow the manufacturers schedule which is in your user manual that came with the car. I don't know about the RSX, but with my MDX for example, recommended oil changes are every 12k, whereas the dealership wants to do them every 6k. Similarly they want to inspect all kinds of things and machine your rotors and change various fluids when they don't need to be. They keep pointing to their "Acura service schedule", but this is put together by the dealerships association, NOT by Honda. I just ask them "Are you telling me that you know the car better than the manufacturer?" I have them follow Honda's recommended schedule, and save a lot of money in the process.
I ended up going to Eurotech which is just around the corner from me. Car was in and out in 2 hours with new Motul 600 fluid installed. Immediately I had the feeling these were good folks in it for the right reasons. They will be at the track this weekend also. They charged me about 1/3 what Acura wanted to. One point which was brought to my attention was that their ( Acura) service rates are $ 80/hr but for an NSX its $ 125/hr. Well the more I look at it , its just a bunch of nuts and bolts same as any other auto except put together a little more wisely :smile:
I happened to do an oil change on my NSX and my Astrovan at the same time. One bolt and one filter on each, wonder how they can justify an extra $ 45/hr. I know thats a bit simplified but all cars are complex in their own ways.
My problem is I rarely get to build up a relationship with a dealership as I try to do everything myself just for the challenge and learning. Probably will tackle the timing belt/waterpump in a month or so. It seems pretty straightforward but I realize the implications of doing it wrong would be devastating.Here are some prices for NSX memorabilia that my brother sent me just for fun. These are list prices in Cdn and some of these things are a lot cheaper now due to no demand.I think you'll see why when you look at the prices!
Unfortunately to get the happy hour Honda pricing you have to marry into the family as it is only immediate family members who qualify. My girlfriend needed a new exhaust for her Accord so we had to wait till we were married to order it ( thats the truth!). They are real sticky about those rules. So at this time it doesn't look good for anyone out there as all my family members are either married or still too young. Well there is one niece I have of eligible age but she is taken already
Looking forward to the weekend!
Bruce
list
NSX pen/pencel set $ 326.46
NSX desk clock $ 712.25
NSX mens watch $ 2,017.00
NSX suit bag $ 1,661.76
NSX weekender bag $ 1,305.76
NSX hip wallet $ 131.23
NSX breast wallet $ 246.02
NSX portfolio $ 267.11
NSX engine assembly $ 37,301.56
That last one is why I can't afford to screw up the timing belt
I happened to do an oil change on my NSX and my Astrovan at the same time. One bolt and one filter on each, wonder how they can justify an extra $ 45/hr. I know thats a bit simplified but all cars are complex in their own ways.
My problem is I rarely get to build up a relationship with a dealership as I try to do everything myself just for the challenge and learning. Probably will tackle the timing belt/waterpump in a month or so. It seems pretty straightforward but I realize the implications of doing it wrong would be devastating.Here are some prices for NSX memorabilia that my brother sent me just for fun. These are list prices in Cdn and some of these things are a lot cheaper now due to no demand.I think you'll see why when you look at the prices!
Unfortunately to get the happy hour Honda pricing you have to marry into the family as it is only immediate family members who qualify. My girlfriend needed a new exhaust for her Accord so we had to wait till we were married to order it ( thats the truth!). They are real sticky about those rules. So at this time it doesn't look good for anyone out there as all my family members are either married or still too young. Well there is one niece I have of eligible age but she is taken already
Looking forward to the weekend!
Bruce
list
NSX pen/pencel set $ 326.46
NSX desk clock $ 712.25
NSX mens watch $ 2,017.00
NSX suit bag $ 1,661.76
NSX weekender bag $ 1,305.76
NSX hip wallet $ 131.23
NSX breast wallet $ 246.02
NSX portfolio $ 267.11
NSX engine assembly $ 37,301.56
That last one is why I can't afford to screw up the timing belt
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coiler said:
Well Bruce ... How did the weekend school go?
No doubt the most fun I have had in the last 5 years since getting the crap scared out of me learning to kiteboard. It was nice to have that healthy dose of fear about what you are doing as it comes so rarely in such a constructuive way as last weekends classes.
To sum it up, doing 200+km/h coming over a blind hill and having to jam the brakes on like you never have before. Get down to 130 or so to make a turn( I'm guessing at the 130 cuz there was no way I would look!) with a tire wall in what seems like not too far of a distance. This sure can get your blood flowing!
That was pretty much the most exciting part but just the tip of the iceberg with all the other things going on. That track is amazing! It has such a variety of things going on it is impossible to comprehend it all for a first timer like myself. The instructors are great and really let you have your way up to the level you are comfortable with. It is real safe with the co-operative passing rules and no mishaps throughout the event. They put me in the first timers class which really had a variety of different cars, no matter what people were driving they all were smiling and learning more things about their car than they knew existed. Every session you go out with an instructor and luckily I had an instructor who was very familiar with the NSX. We ended up with 5 track sessions of 1/2 hour each, that was actually enough for me as I was mentally exhausted by the end. Had some good sessions and some not so good. Its amazing what a small change in tire pressure and a little more concentration can do to pick up a session. You always have to be thinking ahead.
The skidpad is a good way to try the limits of your car in a safe and low speed environment. Broke my heart to do donuts on the wet pavement though as my car got dirty but it was yet another great learning experience.
OK, I'm still in the honeymoon stage with my new toy!
Just experiencing the whole scene really opens your eyes to what it is all about. I have never really been to any track before so even if I couldn't have participated I would have probably enjoyed myself just to see what it was about.
One of the highlights is going with the instructors in their car , thankfully, Daria had lent his ride to us for the run so I got to feel what some of the upgrades I'm thinking of felt and performed like. No doubt I could use some upgrades but more so in my driving rather than the car at this stage. My instructor agrees! My feeling is that I could easily get a few more sessons before needing to really move up with the hardware. There is such a delicate feel you need to acquire, I've still got plenty to learn from the stock set up.
Of course this isn't saying I wasn't getting close to the limits through some of the sessions. Of course the limits of the car seemed somewhat reduced by the skills of the driver.
All in all a great day and I guess some of you may want to know how the NSX performed.
Well I never got passed once all weekend! It really isn't a racing school but you need to take it to what you are comfy with to get the most out of the experience. Of course in the novice class I had probably one of the more capable cars but there were still some vehicles out there that were definitely not clunkers ( s2000, 911,540 ,M3 , Z3 etc). Even if I missed a line, the car gave awesome feedback and you pretty much knew how much to give and keep it safe. Had the rear end come around twice but only slightly. Listen to your instructor when he says DO NOT BRAKE AND TRY TO TURN! One time it happened going pretty fast and that was quite interesting . I have the standard 5 speed ( snap ring not yet snapped) and was just loving it at Mosport. On one hand there is not a whole lot of shifting going on as most of the track is done in 3rd gear and I didn't mind having both hands on the wheel most of the time at all. Each lap I would only have to do 5 or 6 shifts but with the track having so many tricky sections ( blind corners especially) it was a welcome bonus. Whenever they asked students what gear they were using in certain sections, my car was always in one gear lower and if I needed extra speed, the high redline made it a non issue in 3rd for most of the track.
Will I do it again? Well get in line behind me. This is what that car was made to do and doing it in a safe manner keeps it within the realm of most who value their investment. Of course, s**t can happen but it seems to be a minimal risk.
Thanks to all the organizers and the BMW club for allowing non BMW owners to participate. It is a killer deal if you think of all the support that is needed to run the event. It was well organized, very attentive to individuals needs and very safe. If you own an NSX, get the sludge out the natural way.
200 km/h and no cops, whats better than that!!
Bruce
you can go to bed now as that was a lot of reading :biggrin:
To sum it up, doing 200+km/h coming over a blind hill and having to jam the brakes on like you never have before. Get down to 130 or so to make a turn( I'm guessing at the 130 cuz there was no way I would look!) with a tire wall in what seems like not too far of a distance. This sure can get your blood flowing!
That was pretty much the most exciting part but just the tip of the iceberg with all the other things going on. That track is amazing! It has such a variety of things going on it is impossible to comprehend it all for a first timer like myself. The instructors are great and really let you have your way up to the level you are comfortable with. It is real safe with the co-operative passing rules and no mishaps throughout the event. They put me in the first timers class which really had a variety of different cars, no matter what people were driving they all were smiling and learning more things about their car than they knew existed. Every session you go out with an instructor and luckily I had an instructor who was very familiar with the NSX. We ended up with 5 track sessions of 1/2 hour each, that was actually enough for me as I was mentally exhausted by the end. Had some good sessions and some not so good. Its amazing what a small change in tire pressure and a little more concentration can do to pick up a session. You always have to be thinking ahead.
The skidpad is a good way to try the limits of your car in a safe and low speed environment. Broke my heart to do donuts on the wet pavement though as my car got dirty but it was yet another great learning experience.
OK, I'm still in the honeymoon stage with my new toy!
Just experiencing the whole scene really opens your eyes to what it is all about. I have never really been to any track before so even if I couldn't have participated I would have probably enjoyed myself just to see what it was about.
One of the highlights is going with the instructors in their car , thankfully, Daria had lent his ride to us for the run so I got to feel what some of the upgrades I'm thinking of felt and performed like. No doubt I could use some upgrades but more so in my driving rather than the car at this stage. My instructor agrees! My feeling is that I could easily get a few more sessons before needing to really move up with the hardware. There is such a delicate feel you need to acquire, I've still got plenty to learn from the stock set up.
Of course this isn't saying I wasn't getting close to the limits through some of the sessions. Of course the limits of the car seemed somewhat reduced by the skills of the driver.
All in all a great day and I guess some of you may want to know how the NSX performed.
Well I never got passed once all weekend! It really isn't a racing school but you need to take it to what you are comfy with to get the most out of the experience. Of course in the novice class I had probably one of the more capable cars but there were still some vehicles out there that were definitely not clunkers ( s2000, 911,540 ,M3 , Z3 etc). Even if I missed a line, the car gave awesome feedback and you pretty much knew how much to give and keep it safe. Had the rear end come around twice but only slightly. Listen to your instructor when he says DO NOT BRAKE AND TRY TO TURN! One time it happened going pretty fast and that was quite interesting . I have the standard 5 speed ( snap ring not yet snapped) and was just loving it at Mosport. On one hand there is not a whole lot of shifting going on as most of the track is done in 3rd gear and I didn't mind having both hands on the wheel most of the time at all. Each lap I would only have to do 5 or 6 shifts but with the track having so many tricky sections ( blind corners especially) it was a welcome bonus. Whenever they asked students what gear they were using in certain sections, my car was always in one gear lower and if I needed extra speed, the high redline made it a non issue in 3rd for most of the track.
Will I do it again? Well get in line behind me. This is what that car was made to do and doing it in a safe manner keeps it within the realm of most who value their investment. Of course, s**t can happen but it seems to be a minimal risk.
Thanks to all the organizers and the BMW club for allowing non BMW owners to participate. It is a killer deal if you think of all the support that is needed to run the event. It was well organized, very attentive to individuals needs and very safe. If you own an NSX, get the sludge out the natural way.
200 km/h and no cops, whats better than that!!
Bruce
you can go to bed now as that was a lot of reading :biggrin:
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what a weekend! Sounds like you had a riot and you learned alot about the car and about higher performance driving. Not that Im any expert, Im ssoooo far from it, but each time you go out youll learn new things. You may be running a line and one day realize that there is a whole different line that changes the whole experience!
Also - regardig the risk of something happening being minimal - Im not sure that is the case. If you go often, sh!t WILL happen. To emerge from the harry experience with an intact body and car is all you can pray for. I know a guy that is still trying to figure out how he is going to pay for the $40k damage to his Maserati spyder from the spring. And when I was there, the guy who went off in his Maserati (coincidence with the crashed car) is thanking his lucky stars that the turn 4 off, which saw him oversteer off on the right, cross the track and head in the direction of the wall on the left, emerge from a potentially disasterous situation with only a few grand in damage. Considering how easy it is to write off an NSX (being aluminum), it takes much less of an impact in our cars to make a much bigger impact on our wallets.
If you want to go again - Im probably going on the 22nd. A full day event. Youll get tons of driving in during the day (Ive ended up sitting out half of the last session out because Ive been a little tired - 250km of Mosport in a day is challenging)....There are still some spots left. Maximum of 18 cars. Its very well controlled and organized. Instructor in your car for every lap if you like. But its not cheap ~$500 for the day. To me it makes sense because of the instruction, having only 18 cars and the sheer volume of driving, but its definatly expensive for a single day. catered lunch too.
I found the same thing re the gearing, being one gear lower in every location. I was redlined in 4th cresting the hill at ~210ish with no need to upshift. You should take a spin with an instructor in a 911TT or a GT3 or something. From 250 to 140 in 10 feet. Those binders are rediculus!
Come out on the 22nd!
Also - regardig the risk of something happening being minimal - Im not sure that is the case. If you go often, sh!t WILL happen. To emerge from the harry experience with an intact body and car is all you can pray for. I know a guy that is still trying to figure out how he is going to pay for the $40k damage to his Maserati spyder from the spring. And when I was there, the guy who went off in his Maserati (coincidence with the crashed car) is thanking his lucky stars that the turn 4 off, which saw him oversteer off on the right, cross the track and head in the direction of the wall on the left, emerge from a potentially disasterous situation with only a few grand in damage. Considering how easy it is to write off an NSX (being aluminum), it takes much less of an impact in our cars to make a much bigger impact on our wallets.
If you want to go again - Im probably going on the 22nd. A full day event. Youll get tons of driving in during the day (Ive ended up sitting out half of the last session out because Ive been a little tired - 250km of Mosport in a day is challenging)....There are still some spots left. Maximum of 18 cars. Its very well controlled and organized. Instructor in your car for every lap if you like. But its not cheap ~$500 for the day. To me it makes sense because of the instruction, having only 18 cars and the sheer volume of driving, but its definatly expensive for a single day. catered lunch too.
I found the same thing re the gearing, being one gear lower in every location. I was redlined in 4th cresting the hill at ~210ish with no need to upshift. You should take a spin with an instructor in a 911TT or a GT3 or something. From 250 to 140 in 10 feet. Those binders are rediculus!
Come out on the 22nd!
No doubt the more you push it the more likely of something going bad. I guess it really just comes down to a few factors one of which is some kind of inevitabilty factor for sure. Wrong place at the wrong time surely plays into it.
Did you have to spoil my invincibilty bubble so soon!
Anyways, good words to keep one grounded in reality a bit as it is a little more aggressive than your average Sunday drive.
Doubt if I'll have the opportunity to go out to the session you spoke about. One thought in the back of my mind tells me to go to the sessions where you don't get so much track time as the lack of fatigue and law of averages are more on your side that way.
Who is running the event on the 22nd?
Bruce
Did you have to spoil my invincibilty bubble so soon!
Anyways, good words to keep one grounded in reality a bit as it is a little more aggressive than your average Sunday drive.
Doubt if I'll have the opportunity to go out to the session you spoke about. One thought in the back of my mind tells me to go to the sessions where you don't get so much track time as the lack of fatigue and law of averages are more on your side that way.
Who is running the event on the 22nd?
Bruce
Hi Bruce,
You may be interested in attending as a guest/spectator at the Sept 23rd Dexter Day at Mosport. Daria may have mentioned it to you already. You'll get a chance to ride as a passenger in Daria's car with him behind the wheel. Honestly, I did no justice to Daria's NSX this past weekend. It's capable of far more than I was willing to push it given the fact it wasn't my car. That and also my concern about the little wiggle we experienced up the back straight on the first lap. Hopefully whatever that was will be corrected by the 23rd and Daria will be able to demonstrate to you what his car is capable of. Our friend Claude is also expected to make his debut at this event in his '91 NSX with a newly installed TEIN RE coilovers. Claude has a wealth of track experinece and was already plenty fast in his stock NSX. I expect him to do some serious spanking with the new TEINS. I'm sure he wouldn't mind taking you out for a little joy ride. This would be a great opportunity for you to experience first hand both the TEIN and Type-R suspension systems while gaining some valuable lessons observing both Daria and Claude driving their cars. You'd be amazed how much you pick up by simple observation. Best of all....it's all free!
Glad you had a good time at the school and hope to see at a few more next year.
Rui
You may be interested in attending as a guest/spectator at the Sept 23rd Dexter Day at Mosport. Daria may have mentioned it to you already. You'll get a chance to ride as a passenger in Daria's car with him behind the wheel. Honestly, I did no justice to Daria's NSX this past weekend. It's capable of far more than I was willing to push it given the fact it wasn't my car. That and also my concern about the little wiggle we experienced up the back straight on the first lap. Hopefully whatever that was will be corrected by the 23rd and Daria will be able to demonstrate to you what his car is capable of. Our friend Claude is also expected to make his debut at this event in his '91 NSX with a newly installed TEIN RE coilovers. Claude has a wealth of track experinece and was already plenty fast in his stock NSX. I expect him to do some serious spanking with the new TEINS. I'm sure he wouldn't mind taking you out for a little joy ride. This would be a great opportunity for you to experience first hand both the TEIN and Type-R suspension systems while gaining some valuable lessons observing both Daria and Claude driving their cars. You'd be amazed how much you pick up by simple observation. Best of all....it's all free!
Glad you had a good time at the school and hope to see at a few more next year.
Rui
What do you need to do to get registered for Dexter? Is it something that I can go to with my car? Do they have in car instructors if you want?
I can get out on the 22nd as I believe my schedule can be adjusted to compensate. I'm going to contact Dexter today to see what the deal is and maybe even take part if there are spots open. Its a little harsh for us rookies as we have to cough up the extra $ 250.00 but its going to be a loooooong winter of wishing I could drive my car and surely I won't regret it financially.
Bruce
Bruce
If I can do Dexter, I will probably do that instead of the 22nd. Id like very much to be around some other NSX folk 
So let me know what you dig up.
Otherwise, Ill do the 22nd and hope you can come too Bruce.
So let me know what you dig up.Otherwise, Ill do the 22nd and hope you can come too Bruce.
Give me the details please - Ill sign up too. Bruce - can you PM me his phone number?
Dexter Autosport Entry Form
Registration Form 2005
2005 DATES
Mosport: Fridays: May 6th, June 10th, July 8th, August 5th, September 23rd,
Saturday: October 15th
Season Subsciption Packages:
Six Events: $1850.00 Five Events: $1650.00
Four Events: $1400.00 Three Events: $1080.00
Two Events: $730.00 One Event: $375.00
Instruction:
Additional: a)$250.00 per event (mandatory for novices)
b)$100.00 per event ( optional short advanced technique session)
Regular In Season Rates Per Event:
Up to one week before the event: $375.00
Last Week Prior to the Event: $425.00
Trackside: (unannounced-just show up) $475.00 (if room available)
please fill out the coupon (one per driver) and return to:
Dexter Autosport Inc.
7205 Goreway Drive, Mississauga, Ont. L4T 2T9
Please make checks payable to:
Dexter Autosport Inc.
Questions? Call: 905-677-7133
Email: [email protected]
Web: DexterAutosport.com
______________________________________________________________________________
Name:_______________________________ Year, make, & colour of car:_________________
Address:_________________________________________________ Apt.___
City:______________________________Province/State:___________
Postal Code:___________
Bus phone/Cell :____________________Home Phone:____________
Email:
Please circle dates attending:
May 6th , June 10th
July 8th, August 5th, September 23rd ,
October 15th
Registration Form 2005
2005 DATES
Mosport: Fridays: May 6th, June 10th, July 8th, August 5th, September 23rd,
Saturday: October 15th
Season Subsciption Packages:
Six Events: $1850.00 Five Events: $1650.00
Four Events: $1400.00 Three Events: $1080.00
Two Events: $730.00 One Event: $375.00
Instruction:
Additional: a)$250.00 per event (mandatory for novices)
b)$100.00 per event ( optional short advanced technique session)
Regular In Season Rates Per Event:
Up to one week before the event: $375.00
Last Week Prior to the Event: $425.00
Trackside: (unannounced-just show up) $475.00 (if room available)
please fill out the coupon (one per driver) and return to:
Dexter Autosport Inc.
7205 Goreway Drive, Mississauga, Ont. L4T 2T9
Please make checks payable to:
Dexter Autosport Inc.
Questions? Call: 905-677-7133
Email: [email protected]
Web: DexterAutosport.com
______________________________________________________________________________
Name:_______________________________ Year, make, & colour of car:_________________
Address:_________________________________________________ Apt.___
City:______________________________Province/State:___________
Postal Code:___________
Bus phone/Cell :____________________Home Phone:____________
Email:
Please circle dates attending:
May 6th , June 10th
July 8th, August 5th, September 23rd ,
October 15th
Dexter track days are open-track events - no run groups. Everyone from the most novice student to pro-racers are on the track at the same time. Hence the speed difference between cars can sometimes be overwhelming. You may have cars lapping well below 1.30's while others over 2 mins. Hence it is imperative you monitor your mirrors constantly. You might exit a corner and see no one in your mirrors, before you get to the next corner, you may have a 700hp Trans-Am racecar 2 inches off your rear bumper waiting very impatiently for a passing signal. Bruce, I timed you (secretly) on your last run and your best times were in the 1.55's - not bad for a 1st time rookie. I believe Claude with his stock '91 suspension on R-compounds got down to the 1.44's and I expect with the TEIN's, he should be 4-5 secs faster.
Dexter does provide in-car instructors at additional cost (see previous e-mail)
Dexter does provide in-car instructors at additional cost (see previous e-mail)
Since it will be put to heavy use, I'll use synthetic oil on the turn indicator for sure! I'm sure it will be quite a bit more intimidating than the BMW school but in the long run it would also be good to see what it is like to have the faster guys out there. Hopefully there will be a few out there in my skill range. It is required for me to spend the extra $ 250.00 for the novice instruction.
I just keep thinking its going to be a long cold winter and if I have the chance I may as well do it.
Bruce
I just keep thinking its going to be a long cold winter and if I have the chance I may as well do it.
Bruce
Forget the oil - just duct tape the turn signal lever permanently since it will be in that position 90% of the time once they let the "lambs" out with the wolves.
Yes, you are correct - instruction sessions are mandatory for all novices. I've heard the instructors are all pro racers with many years of experience so you'll be in good hands. Unlike the BMW school, you will alternate between instructors so you should get a lot of feedback from 4-5 instructors.
Yes, you are correct - instruction sessions are mandatory for all novices. I've heard the instructors are all pro racers with many years of experience so you'll be in good hands. Unlike the BMW school, you will alternate between instructors so you should get a lot of feedback from 4-5 instructors.
GreatWhiteNorth said:
That is funny ...
For most first time novices who have never been to Mosport, I probably wouldn't recommend a Dexter Day just for the simple reason they are already overwhelmed with all the basics you need to learn which is hard enough in itself without having to constantly watch your mirrors. Its not the most ideal learning enviroment for someone that has never driven on a track before. Having said that, the majority of drivers that do attend Dexter Days on a regular basis are very curtious, particularily to the novice students and tend to give them lots of room and exercise patience with them knowing very well they have their hands full. You may however encounter the odd jerk that will get a thrill riding your rear bumper around corners. You may even get the odd guy that interprets you picking your nose as a "passing signal" and find yourself being challenged for a corner. This used to be the case when I did some of these events a couple of years ago but I have since heard Dexter has cleaned up his house. If you do encounter any of these isolated situations, you should report it to your instructor immediately ( assuming that he is not with you in the car of course ) or the chief steward and they will deal with the offender. Dexter does not tolerate aggressive driving and has been known to exile repeat offenders - that's why I'm no longer welcomed at his events (LOL). On a more serious note, I think you will do fine. You didn't project yourself as someone that could be easily intimidated. In fact, I'd be willing to bet you have some intimidator blood in you. Just remember to drive within your limits. Just because you may see someone driving a similar car as yours or a car that you may perceive as being inferior to yours (in terms of performance), don't do what most novice "hot heads" do, thinking they too can drive their car at the same level. It requires lots of seat time behind the wheel to acquire the skills to drive a car in the manner you will see being driven at the Dexter Day. I'm sure you're fully aware of this stuff but sometimes the "red mist" tends to settle in and tricks people into thinking they can do things that they can't. I'm confident you'll be okay and that you'll enjoy yourself immensely aside from the thrill riding with Daria and Claude and who ever else you can bribe to take you out.
GreatWhiteNorth said:
This is terrific advice. I remember being up at Tremblant with MCO for a weekend what seems like a lifetime ago. That weekend, there was a 17 year old kid driving around a stock Jetta with street tires on it. Corvettes? Destroyed. Got a Type R with R compounds on it; he will get you. How about a Mustang Cobra; you're his. The guy was running with the fastest guys in their race prep'd cars all gutted and caged with the ends cut off of all the bolts that were just a little too long to save weight. I dont know what happened to that kid, or who he was, but holly crap that 17 year old could drive the bajebus off of that stock Jetta.
I agree fully that it is great advice to drive within your limits despite what you may THINK you can do. I've got a great plan though. Keep my car stock and then I always have an excuse to keep the turn signal on :biggrin:
Just put the funds down for the 23rd. Lets hope for a good safe day.
Bruce
Just put the funds down for the 23rd. Lets hope for a good safe day.
Bruce
Looks like Im going to go on the 22nd instead of this day.
I just cant justify paying $100 more for Dexters day given that the other will have full instruction also and will probably have fewer cars....
Have to catch you guys next year I guess. Oh well.
Hopefully I dont leave anything yellow behind for you....
I just cant justify paying $100 more for Dexters day given that the other will have full instruction also and will probably have fewer cars....
Have to catch you guys next year I guess. Oh well.
Hopefully I dont leave anything yellow behind for you....
Good luck with your day on the 22nd. Who organizes that event?
23rd works for me better with my work schedule. I guess the Dexter days won't be so painful once you can leave the instructors behind. That extra
$ 250.00 is a real pocket buster. I'm thinking its worth it if the instruction is good. On the other hand, there is only so much you can take in during a one day event. Oh well, gotta pay to play I guess.
Please, no yellow debris!!
23rd works for me better with my work schedule. I guess the Dexter days won't be so painful once you can leave the instructors behind. That extra
$ 250.00 is a real pocket buster. I'm thinking its worth it if the instruction is good. On the other hand, there is only so much you can take in during a one day event. Oh well, gotta pay to play I guess.
Please, no yellow debris!!
Try to go out with as many instructors as possible. They should have at least 4-5 from what I recall. In previous years, they even had David Empringham as one of their guest instructors. He's a big shot racer now, so don't expect to see him there. Insist on having an instructor with you at all times until you are comfortable driving solo. You're paying big bucks for their instructors so get your money's worth. If an instructor is not available, then ask Bruce, Daria or Claude to go out with you do not feel ready. They may not be famous race car drivers but you'll still learn a thing or two from them. Man, you're going to have one busy day!!! Get lots of rest the night before.
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