Check out the SOS turbo kit!

Turbo market seems to be picking up. Was wondering its about time for SoS. Is it on anybody car yet? Pics would be nice if at all.
 
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It is only on the test car from what I saw. I heard about it when I was in Phoenix but they didn't give a release date at that point. I would like to see some dyno charts to see the power under the curve and why they went two turbo intead of a single. Was it a parallel or Sequential turbo setup? I assume it is parallel from what I saw. I always thought the advantage of a twin setup(normally) is to avoid having a huge lag in the turbo.

I just saw this has the dynos up. I saw it in the newsletter yesterday and they have a video up on youtube as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wsj-9T8B1I

I don't know what to make of it. The power curves look identical to a supercharger so far. Maybe I am wrong but don't turbo kits usually have more torque than this one does? The low boost profile looks identical to a SC setup.

One thing to always keep in mind above 450whp is the car needs wider tires to lay down this power. Most people go for the widebody kits at the higher boost levels since you can't fit huge tires under the current fender setup. I assume the video they show is under low boost.
 
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Ha! I got props in the second post on the Supraforums thread :rolleyes:

Although if I hear "dude, why don't you just buy a Supra??" one more time...

:biggrin:

LOL... WERE NOT GONNA MAKE SUPRA PARTS... It was an example of how this forum has 60 Ikes and STMPO is Tina.

Were looking to go sing songs somewhere else.... I think DF is a good example to follow... minus the let SOS sell our parts part

Regards
 
From what I have dealt with from SOS I would say this will be a high quality turbo package. If I ever go to a turbo down the road I will weight out all of the setups available to see which is the best. It appears that they all can get 600whp to some extent. I just wonder which is the best layout and design. I know the price is very competitive compared to other turbo kits I have seen.
 
From what I have dealt with from SOS I would say this will be a high quality turbo package. If I ever go to a turbo down the road I will weight out all of the setups available to see which is the best. It appears that they all can get 600whp to some extent. I just wonder which is the best layout and design. I know the price is very competitive compared to other turbo kits I have seen.

Personally, I don't care about 600HP. I want to know which kit will be reliable for years at 400hp on a stock motor for daily driving and the occasional track event.

I don't want to by another motor. That experience sucked.

Your SC NSX is about perfect HP IMO.
 
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Personally, I don't care about 600HP. I want to know which kit will be reliable for years at 400hp on a stock motor for daily driving and the occasional track event.

I don't want to by another motor. That experience sucked.

Your SC NSX is about perfect HP IMO.

Totally agree with this... Also, while it's an annoying comment, the "why not just buy a supra???" bs almost does start to make sense when you are talking about chasing 600, 800, 1000hp or whatever. It's really just so far removed from what the nsx is about, IMO. I think 400hp puts you right at the optimal power:weight to compliment the mid engine driving experience of the nsx. For me, it seems hard to argue with the power:weight balance of a Ferrari 360. I never found myself thinking "damn... If only this had more power" when I've ridden in them and the same is true now driving an nsx that is right at around 400hp and 2950lbs

Of course anyone who does want to build a 600hp nsx, more power to you! Makes for good reading :biggrin:
 
I disagree with your comment on the optimal power limitation of 400hp. Anywhere over 650hp we start to see other parts break, mainly in the transition, shafts and joints. Taking into consideration the overall limitations of the car, just at 600hp is where I set the bar. But hp is just hp, and doesn't mean didly until you have all the other tools needed to control it. Mainly, the nut behind the wheel.

Truth is, number chasing is meaningless.
 
Right now I'm on the fence as to CTSC vs Turbo, but being in CA the only thing that makes sense is CT. That video makes it seem that they are trying to make the turbo somewhat smog compliant? will have to ask chris about that...
 
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Right now I'm on the fence as to CTSC vs Turbo, but being in CA the only thing that makes sense is CT. That video makes it seem that they are trying to make the turbo somewhat smog compliant? will have to ask chris about that...


This turbo kit will most likely NEVER be street legal here in CA, you're taking out the original ECM (ECU) 91-95 and adding a piggyback on OBDII cars. I think what they mean by all of this is that it is less likely to be discovered by someone who doesn't know what to look for in our engine bays.

CA law states that modifying most ANYTHING after the air filter is illegal unless it has a CARB sticker.

i love the kit and the apparent build quality on all of SOS parts (this one very much included) but if i want to stay in CA and have FI on my NSX i think i will have to purchase a CTSC. oh well :cool:
 
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I will be the first to say that turbo cars and supercharged cars with the same power are not the same. All power and torque being equal I would probably choose a turbo if it were reliable. I am with NetViper on the reliability aspect. That is part of the reason I have the parts I have(and I bought the car with the autorotor kit on it). However, I have driven a 580whp NSX locally in a straight line and loved it. A lot depends on the power curve and when it hits. This same turbo car had mass amounts of torque early in the rpms and made it very hard to drive before. The car is much more controlled with the new turbo and powerband. I do like the twin turbo idea since many cars have made that a staple of good engineering straight from stock, i.e. the GTR and BMW 335 are both good examples of that. What turbos do have that I like is good charge air temperatures compared to that of a supercharger. Most turbo kits for the NSX run air temps in 90-120 range I believe. My stock CTSC will run temps at 260 degrees or so. If you add the laminova it does temps of 165 or so. That is better but still not close to a turbo kit. Turbos are nice since they run straight off the exhaust gases pushing the turbine. So it is free energy to some extent. Superchargers have to be turned by a pulley to work. Superchargers are good for those that like predicable power with no lag as well.

One thing I will add is I visit the track and I don't believe that 500whp+ is as usable on the road courses for the mortal people that are weekend warriors. Billy Johnson can handle those cars but I wouldn't recommend it for other people. If you want to blast off in a straight line than get a Supra, Mustang or Vette I say. It will be cheaper to hit those high up numbers without destroying your engine block. A corvette can do 600whp on a stock block pretty easily I imagine.

Don't get me wrong, I love both types of cars but for different reasons. I actually haven't driven my NSX at the new hp numbers But I pick it up next Wednesday. I had quite a few mods done at the same time since I drove it down to Science of Speed. I will then have a twin turbo and a supercharged car in my garage to compare. The biggest difference between the two cars is the handling above all. No comparison there.
 
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I will be the first to say that turbo cars and supercharged cars with the same power are not the same. All power and torque being equal I would probably choose a turbo if it were reliable. I am with NetViper on the reliability aspect. That is part of the reason I have the parts I have(and I bought the car with the autorotor kit on it). However, I have driven a 580whp NSX locally in a straight line and loved it. A lot depends on the power curve and when it hits. This same turbo car had mass amounts of torque early in the rpms and made it very hard to drive before. The car is much more controlled with the new turbo and powerband. I do like the twin turbo idea since many cars have made that a staple of good engineering straight from stock, i.e. the GTR and BMW 335 are both good examples of that. What turbos do have that I like is good charge air temperatures compared to that of a supercharger. Most turbo kits for the NSX run air temps in 90-120 range I believe. My stock CTSC will run temps at 260 degrees or so. If you add the laminova it does temps of 165 or so. That is better but still not close to a turbo kit. Turbos are nice since they run straight off the exhaust gases pushing the turbine. So it is free energy to some extent. Superchargers have to be turned by a pulley to work. Superchargers are good for those that like predicable power with no lag as well.

One thing I will add is I visit the track and I don't believe that 500whp+ is as usable on the road courses for the mortal people that are weekend warriors. Billy Johnson can handle those cars but I wouldn't recommend it for other people. If you want to blast off in a straight line than get a Supra, Mustang or Vette I say. It will be cheaper to hit those high up numbers without destroying your engine block. A corvette can do 600whp on a stock block pretty easily I imagine.

Don't get me wrong, I love both types of cars but for different reasons. I actually haven't driven my NSX at the new hp numbers But I pick it up next Wednesday. I had quite a few mods done at the same time since I drove it down to Science of Speed. I will then have a twin turbo and a supercharged car in my garage to compare. The biggest difference between the two cars is the handling above all. No comparison there.

What did you have done to bring it to 390? That is pretty strong for a comptech.
 
I have a comptech autorotor running the high boost pulley setup with a Laminova air to water intercooler from SOS as well. That is actually running high flow cats so with test pipes it is a little higher I think maybe closer to 400whp. I drove it a lot tonight and it feels great. I like it and it is closer to exactly what I want. My clutch could use a replacement to a RPS twin billet as well as lowering the decibels on my exhaust. I need a different muffler setup, something custom. That is mainly so I don't attract tons of attention from Cops when I drive fast.
 
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