Build it yourself S/Cer exposed!

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For those interested I have lots of pictures of my "build it myself" S/Cer on my website www.mscperformance.com (msc is my initials). I need to add tons of text and arrange things better but you might get some ideas on how you too can "build it yourself". I have "build it yourself" photos on other areas of interest as well. Much more to come. Mark
 
Mark,

Do you think if you built the engine for low compression, you could safely run your SC setup without any worries? Your dyno is freaking amazing. Better than anything short of a FX500.
 
Are you selling any of the components? I am very interested in this
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Armando
 
Thanks Mark! I'm beginning my install this weekend, no where near as custom as yours is, but should be good fun for my basic mechanic skills. Wish I had internet access at the new house, hell, I haven't even moved stuff out my old apartment yet... but the garage is all setup with my tools and parts! ;-)

Are the internals on your engine stock?

-mike
 
Great pictures Mark.

In the picture showing the 'under hood' area, it looks like you have your heat exchangers for the aftercooler water resovoir mounted behind the radiator and the resovoir itself. Am I seeing this correctly?
 
Very impessive! From all the previous pictures and discussions about your setup, it was obvious you put a lot of work into it. But with these new pictures... HOLY CRAP!!!:) You put a lot of time and effort into that thing! Very nice... Congrats, and have fun.
 
Sig said:
Great pictures Mark.

In the picture showing the 'under hood' area, it looks like you have your heat exchangers for the aftercooler water resovoir mounted behind the radiator and the resovoir itself.
Sig, Not to speak for Mark, but I think you are looking at the heat exchanger pics without a radiator installed.
 
MiamieNeSeX said:
Are you selling any of the components? I am very interested in this
Mark's got some real interesting ideas in terms of reservoirs. I'm hoping that he will find the time to spend some time in developing what I will call a superior solution in aftercooler reservoirs. Armando, as to a standard aluminum reservoir - the better it is insulated or shielded, the less build-up of water temp due to radiator blow-off heat.

Nice work, Mark! :smile:
 
KGP said:
Mark's got some real interesting ideas in terms of reservoirs. I'm hoping that he will find the time to spend some time in developing what I will call a superior solution in aftercooler reservoirs. Armando, as to a standard aluminum reservoir - the better it is insulated or shielded, the less build-up of water temp due to radiator blow-off heat.

There are insulating materials that are able to be sprayed on and are rubber based. Easy add on to the reservoir he has made. Also the integrated pump makes for a nicer look and great idea for space saving.

Armando
 
After rethinking my last comment regarding insulating the reservoir, the same insulation that keeps the heat out will also keep the heat in.


Armando
 
MiamieNeSeX said:
After rethinking my last comment regarding insulating the reservoir, the same insulation that keeps the heat out will also keep the heat in.
The heat is removed via the heat exchanger before entering the reservoir. So, you would want it insulated. Whatever reservoir you choose, keep in mind you have a vented hood. You will want to make sure the reservoir will fit under the lowered vent space, assuming it might mount under it.
 
Mark, some very impressive work, as well as the resulting numbers on the dyno graph.
 
KGP said:
The heat is removed via the heat exchanger before entering the reservoir. So, you would want it insulated. Whatever reservoir you choose, keep in mind you have a vented hood. You will want to make sure the reservoir will fit under the lowered vent space, assuming it might mount under it.

Heat soak, it works in both directions.

Armando
 
MiamieNeSeX said:
Heat soak, it works in both directions.
:confused: :confused: Perhaps I'm not explaining my thoughts well enough...
As the heated water makes its way from the aftercooler to the reservoir, it makes a pass through your heat exchanger, typically mounted in front of your engine radiator. Right after it passes through the heat exchanger, the water will be at its coolest termpurature, where it then enters the reservoir. Blow-off from the radiator can only increase the tempurature of the water in the reservoir, via conductivity if aluminum and not insulated. If the reservoir has insulating properites, the blow-off heat from the radiator will effect the temps less. Better the insulating properties, the better the temp is preserved, as in where it was as it left the heat exchanger.
 
Me and the Grey Goose understand the series of events that happen.:) I was just mentioning that an insulated reservoir might not be a good idea if the water being run thru it is warmer than the air comming across the reservoir itself. As far as you being confused, there are over the counter medications to help. :biggrin:

Armando
 
MiamieNeSeX said:
Are you selling any of the components? I am very interested in this
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Armando

The larger gpm pump hasn't been tested on the track yet to see if it improves the IAT creep I saw at California Speedway (IAT went from 110F to 160F after twenty minutes of track time, ambient temp about 80F). Might be that I need to SLOW the flow down, not increase it. Willow Springs this Friday will tell the story (unless it's really cool). Just about any sheetmetal fab shop can do the job, just make a mockup out of foam picture backing and they can build to it (see my template). I get my filler caps (if you want to go that way) at SPA Technique Inc. Just make sure that the pickup tube is centered in the tank so it can't cavitate if uncovered due to Gs (some pumps are very hard to re-prime). I run my tank on the return side (non-pressure) so I can vent it and allow a small air space for water to drain out of the intercooler after I shut down. That way, if the pump should fail I don't have any water in the IC to boil and blow the core. In addition, I don't want to find my cylinders filled with water while the car's just sitting because the darn intercooler core decided to spring a small leak! Note: Intercoolers mounted below the intake manifold "water line" shouldn't have the flooding issue.
 

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