Bombing in Boston, WTF?

since you stuck your neck out and we jumped on you...i'm gonna stick my head out as this is sadly become part of our lives now. Even carrying guns is not gonna help these terrorists.

When 911 happened, I was in Singapore working and when I saw on TV people jumping off building from 100+ floors I could not fathom nor understood what has just happened to my beloved country.

I asked one of the local Malaysian Islamic co-workers to explain the event over lunch and he agreed. He was just a regular/typical Muslim with 8 kids said "the West over analyze it too much. There is no hate. Its quite simple actually. Its not Bush's/Clinton's fault. Suppose you and I were best buddies since we were kids. Playing together all the time and now we are grown and my "Mosque/church" asks me to go Jihad, I am happy to kill you (with a big:smile: on his face) because you are an infidel and that just the way Sharia law is. We just follow and do, you guys keep asking questions and trying to figure it out."

Its hard to compete with their birth rate so in next generation or two, imagine all of them who are living in the West can vote. The killing is part of live now, it will never end until the end of time for as long as they are alive.

Sent!

I would really hate to pin this event on any specific group until the facts are known.

With that being said, terrorism is a self-sustaining complex now.
 
Islam or infidel ? Which are you?

If this hideous planning is home-grown, what mind from where dreams this up?

what sick mind thought up using an airplane as a guided missile in 911? we all know the answer to that.
we had plenty of warning since 93' WTC but nothing was done and now we have copy cats and we still trying not to offend certain group protecting their rights while they are planning the next one.
 
what sick mind thought up using an airplane as a guided missile in 911? we all know the answer to that.
we had plenty of warning since 93' WTC but nothing was done and now we have copy cats and we still trying not to offend certain group protecting their rights while they are planning the next one.

How can you honestly say "nothing was done"? Seriously?
 
There has been plenty done, but the sad truth is that nothing can be done to prevent these types of cowardly attacks on civilians. All we can do is be prepared to help the victims, which according to the media, did take place as we have trained for. Prayers out to the victims and their loved ones and hopefully these cowards are caught and dealt with swiftly.
 
Sorry, angry bird talking....NA1MT knew what I meant. I believe these kinds of event can be eliminated instead of preparing to help the next victim but profiling and privacy is an endless argument in this country. Now the NSA facility in Utah can do something like the movie Minority Report in 2002 to bring down the possibilities.
I want the system to be pro-active instead of re-active.
 
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Unless you want to chuck out every last right you have and enter a total police state, then it's going to be impossible even begin to think that you have a slight chance of stopping everything. We will never know how many plots were thwarted, so it's a little unfair to say this could have been prevented. It's very rare that I will stand up for a 3-letter agency, but let's be realistic.
 
This was done by some demented and evil person with or without an agenda. God has nothing to do with it. So many crusades, jihads, holocausts and massacres are done in the name of religion throughout the ages. God in what ever form you know him has nothing to do with them. They are conceived and carried out by men, some who use their "out of context" version of faith as justification for their own agenda political or otherwise. Whether this act is domestic or international the bottom line is that innocent men, women and children get killed and maimed just for living their daily lives in peace. It is my prayer that those who are suffering loss and injury find healing and peace. And I hope they find whoever did this and bring them to justice before they kill again.
 
Unless you want to chuck out every last right you have and enter a total police state, then it's going to be impossible even begin to think that you have a slight chance of stopping everything. We will never know how many plots were thwarted, so it's a little unfair to say this could have been prevented. It's very rare that I will stand up for a 3-letter agency, but let's be realistic.

Consider a prison. A prison is a supposedly secure, controlled environment. Everything is managed and aimed at security. Checkpoints, cameras, guards, inspections, etc. And yet even in this super-controlled and managed environment murders and violence happens all the time.

We can take prudent measures and be cautious and vigilant but we're never going to stop a determined crazy person who wants to hurt or kill people.

-J
 
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". By Benjamin Franklin

Our freedom pisses some people off for whatever reason. It is prudent to take common sense precautions. But, when we start giving up even the smallest of our freedoms in reaction to the terrorist's action, they win. That's why on the first day after 9-11 that the airlines flew again, I took a round trip flight from Dallas to San Antonio just to, in my mind, show my defiance to those @$$OL$. I usually drove that route. I hope next year's marathon has twice as many runners in defiance of these murderers.
 
what sick mind thought up using an airplane as a guided missile in 911? we all know the answer to that.
we had plenty of warning since 93' WTC but nothing was done and now we have copy cats and we still trying not to offend certain group protecting their rights while they are planning the next one.

Wow. Way to out yourself.

The rest of us reasonable people understand that a small subset of people do not represent the whole set of people. With that said, no one is trying to protect the rights of the subset.

And not that reasoning would do any good with you, but we have no idea who was behind these attacks or why.

Sorry, angry bird talking....NA1MT knew what I meant. I believe these kinds of event can be eliminated instead of preparing to help the next victim but profiling and privacy is an endless argument in this country. Now the NSA facility in Utah can do something like the movie Minority Report in 2002 to bring down the possibilities.
I want the system to be pro-active instead of re-active.

Minority report was science fiction based on the premise that there existed three beings with the power of seeing the future. You are really embarrassing yourself here.

And if you paid attention to the moral of the story, it is that you cannot with certainty predict a person's future--especially with regards to the crimes they may commit. Try citing a movie (however fictional it may be) that actually supports your argument next time.

I can't help but laugh, and worry at the same time, because no matter how stupid your ideas or arguments are, I know there are others out there that support you--others with the power to oppress the rest of us.

You keep avoiding the harsh truth so that you don't sound like a bad guy. You hide behind a veil of patriotism. You pretend like you are helping this country. Let me tell you something: you aren't.

And if I were to follow your advice, I'd profile you, and your kids, and every one of your family members every time they tried to enroll in a school. That's right: your kids need to get patted down every day before they go to school. And the other kids, that don't belong to their racial/national group, get to sit there judging them and mumbling about them behind their backs all while sitting behind the veil of protecting the school. Then we'd search their backpacks, tap their communication devices, and probably even make some school plays that always stereotyped them as very very bad people--thereby indoctrinating all other kids to always hate them. No matter how innocent you, your kids, or your family members are. Simply because you were the same race or nationality as someone not even remotely related to you committed a crime.

But hey, I'm not being unreasonable am I? I'm just a patriot being "pro-active."
 
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Wow. Way to out yourself......

But hey, I'm not being unreasonable am I? I'm just a patriot being "pro-active."

Movies are not far off reality these days. Whats unthinkable 20yrs ago, its happening now. Predictive Policing is being practiced..., not saying its the answer to stop crime completely but the technique will get better as time goes on...like it or not, big data can be very oppressive in the wrong hands/policy. If you do have things to hide, they may pay a visit. If not, stay away from crowded places cuz they can't catch it all.

 
Movies are not far off reality these days. Whats unthinkable 20yrs ago, its happening now. Predictive Policing is being practiced..., not saying its the answer to stop crime completely but the technique will get better as time goes on...like it or not, big data can be very oppressive in the wrong hands/policy. If you do have things to hide, they may pay a visit. If not, stay away from crowded places cuz they can't catch it all.

lol omg. I am speechless.
 
Thats why we have smart people like you around. This one smells like a home grown bomb as the white cloud is the sign of poorly made nitrate bomb which the excess fuel gets burned up around the top of the fireball. None of the flag poles close by were broken, windows above the blast were intact. the ration of the mix is probably off.

As you can tell....I am full of my patriotic self as usual.
 
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Thats why we have smart people like you around. This one smells like a home grown bomb as the white cloud is the sign of poorly made nitrate bomb which the excess fuel gets burned up around the top of the fireball. None of the flag poles close by were broken, windows above the blast were intact. the ration of the mix is probably off.

As you can tell....I am full of my patriotic self as usual.

Thank you.
 
Our freedom pisses some people off for whatever reason.

Yeah, it's our freedom that pisses everybody off. That's it. We're hated the world over because we're so free. C'mon now, I love this country just as much as the next guy. But, if you can't figure out why we're hated then it might be time to get out of Texas :)

On the second part I agree with you, we have to be defiant and continue to live our lives and not let terror win and our freedom/privacy to diminish. This is the world we live in. We must remain defiant, vigilant and bring those to justice that cause or intend to cause us harm.
 
I lived a few blocks from there and I was always hanging around Kenmore Sq and the Finish line, so this really hits home for me. It is such a great event that you never even think about something like this happening. It is sad to see bystanders waiting for thier family and friends to pass the finish line get hurt. This is truly an act of terror, maybe not by the definition of "terrorist" which we apply to Middle East/Muslim Extremest etiology, however it's still a terrorist act. Bostonians are a strong group of people, and they'll recover and be a stronger community as a result.
 
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Yeah, it's our freedom that pisses everybody off. That's it. We're hated the world over because we're so free. C'mon now, I love this country just as much as the next guy. But, if you can't figure out why we're hated then it might be time to get out of Texas :)

First I said it Pisses "SOME" people off. And, though I'm not sure what my living in Texas has anything to do with it, I don't believe we are hated the world over either. I tried to keep it simple. Geo-politics is messy and confusing. Also, just as some take portions of their own religion out of context to promote their agenda, there are those on the right and the left who do the same with the constitution. We don't always use our freedom properly and many take it for granted.

In an effort to bring this back to the topic, a bunch of innocent people, who did nothing more than enjoy a beautiful day, were killed and maimed by some nut job/jobs with an agenda that trumps the value of life and freedom. In due time we will find out if it is a lone wolf or an organized domestic or foreign terrorist organization and bring them to justice. In the meantime, we should do what ever it takes to help those affected by this evil act recover.
 
Yeah, I won't be attending any large events for awhile.

If a large part of our population starts to think like you, before we know it, we will be living in country with few freedoms. Don't stop what you are doing, however start being more aware of your surroundings where ever you go. I know I am more "situational" aware when I am at a resturant, supermarket, mall, etc...
 
In our country there is no way to prevent an attack of this nature. We can only hope that it does not happen more often. I'm a runner, I have qualified for the Boston Marathon (although I've never run it) and I have an eight year old son so seeing that an eight year old was killed really hit home for me. My family has sat at many a finish line waiting for me to cross the line. I can only hope that the coward or cowards that are responsible for this are brought to justice and hung by their balls in Harvard Square.
 
whats even more sick is it prob another kid getting his name out there like that theater killer guy
 
whats even more sick is it prob another kid getting his name out there like that theater killer guy

I don't think so. These types prefer to walk into a place and be known. This was a case of setting off anonymous bombs. Looks like in this case they want to not be known.
 
Local homeboy terrorists ....White Supremacists, Neo Nazi, anti govt people ?

Yes, that was my take within a few hours of the event. April 15th is your biggest clue.
 
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