Well, it's an NA2, 99 with about 48k miles - if everything else was equal and it was clean as in no accident history or some other hidden issue, probably accident, then it should be listed around 38k - something like that. If it was an individual, with records showing proper maintenance, clean history, no accidents and original paint - that's not a bad price - 38k. Now if it needs a clutch well that's a biggy and the list of things we all look for goes on and on and I won't go into that.
So when you see a car like this listed down at 30k which is less than I'd consider selling my 91 for with all I've done to it - well you know something is wrong. I have no need of another, don't like red and black, but if I did and was looking I would be very quick to pass this one. I might check it out a bit but I doubt that it's the car for me.
I'm a purist though and I look for total stock form and if I want some body kit or other mods I can do them - that's just another little thing from my own perspective - others may like the body kit or side skirts. I always wonder if that's hiding something. I'm suspicous by nature though and that happens with age after many cars. The other thing that turns me off is that this one's been for sale a long time and it's at a dealer and I bet the records for it are non existent. Another major turn off when looking at these little dealers that buy out of auctions looking for a quick buck. Not a good way to buy in my opinion.
Hope that's enough to give you an idea of why I don't think this ones right.
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My point on this red one is good deals exist. Right now NSXs like many highline cars are all over the board price wise, it doesn't matter what year they are.
Personally I still think this red one is a good deal, if it can be purchased for
under 30k, and I bet it could be. I always like to have records when I buy a car, but it's never a deal breaker for me, if the price is right.
If I buy a car and don't have proof of work done I factor it in. I think in this case the dealer may have done this. Personally I don't care how many times the brakes were done, I just want to know the
last time they were done. I don't need receipts from day one,
just the latest stuff. I don't need to know the timing belt was replaced 3 times,
just the last time it was done, etc, but that's just me, and again no records, factor it in.
I think what you are saying is at 38k it should be an accident free clean car with records, but if it has a minor bump on CARFAX or AUTOCHECK (which I don't know if it does) and has no records its not worth 30k? With the 8k differnce you could do TB/WP and still have 5k left
IF something else went wrong. To me this is the way to go. I personally would rather get the car cheaper, and have the difference in cash just in case.
What you also stated about color, body kit, etc is something I said earlier this car may not appeal to everyone. I bet it looks better in person, but still probably not for me, once again a reason it
may not have sold.
All this being said I still think at
under 30k this car is a deal, accident or no accident, records or no records.
BTW: I am also reffering to one of your latest post, if the ZANARDI is a great oppurtunity because of the accident, wouldn't this 99 be a great deal also, just on a different level?
Just my $.02 I am just trying to give you a different perspective.
Don't yell at me Tim.:smile:
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Re: Zanardi #8 on Ebay... JH4NA2120XT000134
<HR style="COLOR: #d1d1e1; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #d1d1e1" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->It will be interesting to see where this bid ends up! Obviously with its sketchy history it is not for the purist looking for that pristine example like Ella'sD got, but still wouldn't you say it may be a decent canditdate? I mean if it is as Chris@SOS says as in only superficial damage I wouldn't consider it a deal breaker and guys with only 50 of these units out there and being driven like they SHOULD be they will only begin to decrease in numbers and Zanardis like this one will still be valuable. My guess is eventually very valuable.
You see when you look at other classic cars that have been around for 40 to 60 years a respray is more the norm than anything else. There are guys out there that race these classic priceless jewel Ferraris (and other classics) in classic car races all around the country and they do get banged up from time to time - does this diminish their value??? To some it just adds to the race history provinance! In other words get used to it - as our cars continue to age - there will be more and more of them with some damage history and that's just the nature of cars that are used and driven.
So point I'm trying to make, that while some of you may turn your noses up at cars like this one - others may see it as an opportunity to get hold of a rare one at a decent price with a little body work that truly is no big deal. If that is the case and I certainly haven't done all the homework on this one that it would warrant given its past, then it may be a good deal!
I bet Ella'sD might just agree with me in part. What say the rest of you?