Any members here in Sales?!

I am in sales, always have been, I currently am a "sales manager" which means I am overseeing 40-45 other professional regional sales people who over see 55% of the united states and all of Canada. All of this is business to business selling which is what you have asked about specifically (along with the rebuttal question this is the only specific thing you have asked)

I have found that the most effect sales people I know do not really consider what they do "selling". I know that I do not. I provide, and coach the people under me to provide solutions, even if the "customer" hasn’t realized a solution is needed. Understanding who the customer is is a plus in this situation, on a retail floor this is done with polite direct questions. In business to business it is typically done days before with research about the company and what they do, who you are trying to sell @ that company, and where they have had failures and success. These are really easy to find out as most people LOVE to talk and gossip.
There is definitely something to be said to the belief that you are a natural or your not but that does not mean that you cannot be effective. Confidence and knowledge is what make a great salesman.
The customer can HATE you, think you are a moron, and KNOW that you are "putting him on the boat" with a sale, but if he respects and trusts your knowledge in what you do, he will buy, be happy about it, and send more people to you.
 
First step is to believe in what you sell. If you do, you subconciously exude confidence and intelligence. People really pick up on that.

If you don't believe in what you sell, you are going to have a tough time convincing others.


Example:
Imagine yourself trying to sell a Saturn. :eek:

Then imagine yourself trying to sell an NSX. :biggrin:
 
queenlives said:
an interesting statement - please explain your thinking.


You can teach someone to rattle off benefits, features, and to recite anything.

You cannot (easily) teach someone to "connect" with people. Charm and tact are traits I feel are inherent to an individual and cannot be learned. I believe them to be things that you either have or you don't.
 
SilverStone05 said:
Imagine yourself trying to sell a Saturn. :eek:

Then imagine yourself trying to sell an NSX. :biggrin:

I was the the Preowned Sales Manager at Gettel Acura in Sarasota a few years back and we were one of the largest NSX Dealers in the country. I still sold TONS more Saturns vs the NSX. Its easy to sell a NSX and another story finding someone that qualifies to buy it! You gotta remember your market for each one is different and believe it or not some people actually do like the Saturns? Myself not included! We did have a nickname for them "Sadturd". Fits them well I think.
 
I'm in sales...One of my most valuable traits as a salesman and actually a person is the ablity to lower the stress level in a room and dissarm costomers. When i sold shit door to door, the first thing i had to do was make people comfortable enough to open the door and hear my first sentance--which was often "hi, nothing serious, just doing a bunch a free pizzas for you and your neighbors"...then into some questions. Of course it required a wave and a smile as the first thing they see.

My current job involves a longer sales process where I must often gain the trust and respect of the customers before they will seriously consider what I have to say. It is very important for long sales processes (where you will see a costomer over and over) to identify their personality type. This allows a salesman to deliver the right message and ask the proper questions.
 
SilverStone05 said:
You can teach someone to rattle off benefits, features, and to recite anything.

You cannot (easily) teach someone to "connect" with people. Charm and tact are traits I feel are inherent to an individual and cannot be learned. I believe them to be things that you either have or you don't.
silver,

my apologies for the delay in responding to your answer, especially since i was the guy who asked the question :redface:

here are my thoughts:

* i agree to an extent that "charm" is usually either present or not in each of us... and difficult to instill/teach.

* otoh, my experience is that - assuming they want to - most people can be taught how to communicate with others in a way that facilitates a good selling relationship.

* over 29 years of selling/executive level sales management (only in high tech, btw), i've found "feature/function/benefit" brain dump selling is nearly useless and, frankly, hampers the ability to form a quality business/sales relationship with a prospective/existing customer/organization.

* interestingly enough, i've found many (especially) non-american / international customer(s) organizations to be extremely wary of "charming salespeople" but very responsive to on a the solution selling mindset... which is based on a specific sales process rather than "feature function". (btw, a solution selling approach can be applied to **anything* that is being sold when the process is modified appropriately).

charm's a good thing but not something i'd rely on to build a professional high-earning sales career on.

best,
hal
 
I'm been in sales for about 20 years and I agree with many have said. Number 1 is believe in what you are selling. If you don't own it you can't sell it. Number 2 is confidence in yourself. Number 3 is liking people and enjoying being around people. You don't have to be a charmer if you can be a good listener. I tend to talk less and listen more. I don't feel I sell as much as I educate people in order for them to buy what they need or what they feel works best for them. Of course my product is not something you can put your hands on as I sell benefit plans for companies. I started off selling life Insurance only (by the way of you can life insurance you can sell anything as no one wants to talk to you about their death or what should happen when they die).

That's my quick 2 cents worth
 
folks,

a guy i took under my wing 11 years ago emailed this to me today... and i thought you in this thread might find it of interest:

Five Simple Clues for Recognizing a Great Salesperson


Jeff Thull

Sep 16, 05

To understand what makes a great salesperson it is important to put
yourself in the shoes of your customers. Only then will you truly
understand how to distinguish between a great sales person who can have
a significant impact on the customer's bottom line and the conventional
"Commission Seekers".

Begin by asking yourself, as a business-to-business customer, what do
you expect from the sales professionals who are asking for your time? If
pressed you'd likely say, "Well, I expect them to answer my questions,
sell me the product or service I need, charge a fair price, deliver on
time and follow through on promises." This sounds reasonable, but in
today's complex business world, the rules of selling have changed. The
salesperson whose role once centered on polished presentations and
glossy brochures must now function as a valued advisor and be a source
of competitive advantage. If they're not, you will likely see your
margins eroding as even your most complex products and services are
treated as simple commodities.

There are many companies that claim to offer products and services your
customers need. Yet, all too often the strategy is to battle the
competition on capabilities and pricing. Reality is, that succeeding in
today's marketplace is not about price. It's not even about products.
Instead, success means being able to understand the very real, very
complex problems that customers face. The right salesperson should be
able to collaborate with the customer, stimulate their thinking and
create revenue-building solutions that they don't have the time or the
wherewithal to create for themselves.

So how do you distinguish top professionals from the traditional
sellers? Look for these clues:

1. They diagnose the customer's problem. When a sales professional
launches into a description of his "solution" without first
understanding the customer's situation, be wary. A great salesperson
never assumes that he or the customer understands the complex problems
the customer faces. Instead, he methodically questions and diagnoses
until he uncovers the problems and expands the customer's awareness.
Once they both clearly understand the problem, and the customer
perceives all the ramifications, then the salesperson is justified in
making recommendations. Diagnosis takes time and hard work. A credible
salesperson proves that he is willing to provide both.

2. They ask questions, rather than tell stories. Conventional
salespeople tell stories about their solutions, not to mention
proclaiming the superiority of their company. Prospective customers
expect to hear these stories and rarely take them seriously. However,
customers will take salespeople seriously when they display concern for
the problems and the expertise to solve them. This is demonstrated by
asking questions, questions that the customer would not have thought to
ask.

3. They let the customer set the pace. If a salesperson is truly there
to serve the customer, he will not rush, pressure or manipulate them.
The last thing he will want to do is create mistrust or a
confrontational atmosphere. Therefore he will let the customer
understand the impact of and take ownership for problems before he
discusses solution options.

4. They help the customer calculate the cost of their problem. It's not
enough for a salesperson to say, "You have a problem and it's costing
you money." She must say, "We need to determine how much this is costing
you and see if it makes sense to pursue a solution." If a salesperson
shies away from establishing an accurate cost, it's either because a)
she doesn't know the cost, or b) is afraid the cost will be too low to
justify her solution. Maybe the customer's problem isn't significant
enough to justify the expense. A great salesperson will suggest that and
respect that outcome.

5. They don't let the customer fall into the "creeping elegance" trap.
Let's say the customer becomes enthusiastic about the solution and they
drop into the "as long as we're going to do this we might as well also
do that" mode of thinking. A conventional salesperson might let the
customer run wild, all the time counting the extra commissions. A great
salesperson will ensure that the customer doesn't expand beyond
reasonable financial parameters. He knows that if the customer
unnecessarily expands the scope of a solution, one of her colleagues on
the decision team could shoot down the whole project.

A truly good sales professional is worth his or her weight in gold. He
will function as a consultant for the customer, a strategic partner, and
even an advocate. He will give the customer the competitive advantage.
Having salespeople of this caliber will shift your company's
relationship with its customers. Instead of their reluctantly dealing
with a high-pressure adversary, they will find themselves forming a
partnership based on mutual trust and respect - a partnership that is
long lasting and beneficial to both businesses.

Jeff Thull is a leading-edge strategist and valued advisor for executive
teams of major companies worldwide. As President and CEO of Prime
Resource Group, he has designed and implemented business transformation
and professional development programs for companies like Shell Global
Solutions, 3M, Microsoft, Intel, Citicorp, IBM and Georgia-Pacific, as
well as many fast-track, start-up companies. He has gained the
reputation for being a thought-leader in the arena of sales and
marketing strategies for companies involved in complex sales. For more
information contact Prime Resource Group at [email protected] or
http://www.primeresource.com.
 
Good discussion on the topic of sales as I found quite a bit of useful information here. I briefly heard about "The Little Red Book of Selling" in passing but never got the full title in order to look up on Amazon.com.

I have worked in retail sales at higher end clothing stores while I was in college and have been looking at the financial services area for some time. My view is similar to a few here in that sales in mostly about relationship building if you're planning on doing it for any length of time.
 
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